stan23
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The PS3 is not a good Netflix streaming device.
Try an apple TV, or X360, or heck, any of the newfangled BD players that has wifi and can stream, and you'll be amazed at the HD content.
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New Netflix Policy and Price Increase (again)
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The PS3 is not a good Netflix streaming device.
Try an apple TV, or X360, or heck, any of the newfangled BD players that has wifi and can stream, and you'll be amazed at the HD content.
Don't forget, buncha Comcast subscribers in the Bay complaining about Netflix costs, while paying for internet service that is actively trying to extort everyone under the sun for access to their 'valuable' subscriber base.
It's fairly lulzy.
Don't like overpaying for streamed content? Ditch your Comcast service.
uhmeebuh
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Streaming quality is not yet HD quality. It's better than it was but any other device I get will still not be as good as a BD. I don't want to spend another $300 bucks so I can spend $8/mo...knowwhatImean??
stan23
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Yet it is. I'm telling you, if you had a different source, you'll see that the HD stream is 95% of what BD is to the naked eye.
weak_link
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My ps3 seems to do pretty good with the streaming. It's only a couple months old, maybe they recently improved? I dunno but works pretty good on my end.
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I've had nothing but trouble streaming Netflix through my PS3 since the hack. Luckily I have a BD player that streams Netflix...also the 360 streams, but I don't have Live, and the last resort is the POS Wii. I don't believe the aholes in the Netflix board room thought this through. There are way too many choices out there right now for people who don't watch much and are OK with tossing a few bucks a month at Netflix, but jack up the price, even a little, and they will leave and go to other services. Bad move Netflix......
Netflix goes from hold to sell!!!! at least short term....
Netflix goes from hold to sell!!!! at least short term....
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uhmeebuh
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Yet it is. I'm telling you, if you had a different source, you'll see that the HD stream is 95% of what BD is to the naked eye.
I've seen it on friend systems and they too notice a difference.
- None of the HD streaming services offer lossless sound - BD is MUCH better in this regard. The best NetFlix can do is 5.1 (but even it's hit or miss as far as quality is concerned).
- Video quality is better than the audio quality but is closer to DVD quality than BD quality. Even the best upscaling players can't upscale lower quality source material up to BD.
A BD ~25GB while an HD movie from Netflix is ~2GB - the technology doesn't yet exist to compress that amount of info to something that can be quickly downloaded and viewed.
In the end, you can still watch a movie/TV show and enjoy the content. But it's not the same quality as BD....and unfortunately, I can see the difference.
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I'm actually gonna be saving money cuz I don't use the streaming feature.
And I'm gonna save even more money, because I don't even have that pricey crap.
I'm gonna save even more cause I don't give a crap
Go read you poopoo brains.
Netflix sucks ass anyway, anything semi worth watching is always DVD only. I said to hell without over a year ago and haven't looked back. Pfffft
Go read you poopoo brains.
Netflix sucks ass anyway, anything semi worth watching is always DVD only. I said to hell without over a year ago and haven't looked back. Pfffft
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What the shit is this...
stan23
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I've seen it on friend systems and they too notice a difference.
- None of the HD streaming services offer lossless sound - BD is MUCH better in this regard. The best NetFlix can do is 5.1 (but even it's hit or miss as far as quality is concerned).
- Video quality is better than the audio quality but is closer to DVD quality than BD quality. Even the best upscaling players can't upscale lower quality source material up to BD.
A BD ~25GB while an HD movie from Netflix is ~2GB - the technology doesn't yet exist to compress that amount of info to something that can be quickly downloaded and viewed.
In the end, you can still watch a movie/TV show and enjoy the content. But it's not the same quality as BD....and unfortunately, I can see the difference.
Well, we can agree to disagree. I think that the HD streaming content is pretty darn good. Compressed - sure, but most of this is stripped audio channels, and it's not exactly fair to compare a 25GB BD movie to a 2GB streaming file. Rarely is the entire movie a 25GB file (remember all the bonus content, extra audio tracks, previews, etc..) You'll probably find that the movie itself is probably around 10GB.
Anyways, the content is hit or miss. Try watching some of the newer TV shows in HD (The Office, Lie to me, Sons of Anarchy) and it's pretty impressive.
One other thing to note - the quality depends heavily on your internet speed, I found that once my speed got chopped a bit, the quality dropped to DVD quality and worse at times, but quality quickly shot back up once I got more bandwidth. I suspect your issues are with your bandwidth, source, and content.
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Looks like I will be cancelling my subscription. They just raised the rates this year. Now this! I wonder if they will offer me the same deal I am getting now when I call up to quit.
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Hmm.. I ditched the Premium channels on DirecTv because Netflix was cheaper, but now I am not so sure. With DirecTv I can atleast get movies on every Tv instead of just the ones running my xbox. And now that HBO allows for streaming, and Hulu is free, not sure why I need Netflix anymore.
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Fine, I'll get streaming only, and do torrents for everything else.
BTW, I've only seen one title with 5.1 (Restrepo) on streaming NFLX. Anyone else know of any others?
BTW, I've only seen one title with 5.1 (Restrepo) on streaming NFLX. Anyone else know of any others?
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uhmeebuh
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Well, we can agree to disagree. I think that the HD streaming content is pretty darn good. Compressed - sure, but most of this is stripped audio channels, and it's not exactly fair to compare a 25GB BD movie to a 2GB streaming file. Rarely is the entire movie a 25GB file (remember all the bonus content, extra audio tracks, previews, etc..) You'll probably find that the movie itself is probably around 10GB.
Anyways, the content is hit or miss. Try watching some of the newer TV shows in HD (The Office, Lie to me, Sons of Anarchy) and it's pretty impressive.
One other thing to note - the quality depends heavily on your internet speed, I found that once my speed got chopped a bit, the quality dropped to DVD quality and worse at times, but quality quickly shot back up once I got more bandwidth. I suspect your issues are with your bandwidth, source, and content.
Listen Stan, we WILL have to agree to disagree!
I think we're saying the same thing (or close to it) - the HD steaming quality has gotten better and it's pretty darn good. But it's not BD quality yet.
There is a difference but the gap is narrowing and it won't matter to most folks. Convenience will ultimately win this until technology can catch up -- either with higher bandwidth (fiber) for larger, higher quality movies, or with a new way to compress the video and audio into something that can be quickly streamed with current bandwidth.
My bandwidth is fine (verified that and it runs consistently), the content has gotten better from Netflix (the first set of streaming options were horrible quality), and the updated PS3 slim is a decent player (this coming from a previous gen PS3 owner).
I've done this comparison with friends systems and sources and they see the same thing (and we've compared the same movie streamed and on BD). And most of the audiophile and videophile forums feel the same way so it's not just me that feels this way...
Netflix revolutionized the movie rental industry and single handed put the beat down on BB and it's ilk.
Now their original business model is actually holding them back.
I don't remember the #'s but they've made no secret that it costs them about 10x as much to deliver a DVD vs stream it to a customer.
I wouldn't be surprised if Netflix was trying to actually get rid of the customers that only use it for DVD's. It would free up more $ that they could, hopefully, leverage in to more licensing agreements for more and more current streaming content.
How old is the DVD format? I don't know. Early 90's? That's from the Paeleasoric Period, in tech years. Streaming content is, more or less, device agnostic and just requires an internet or cell connection. Maybe it's not for everyone but it seems like a no-brainer to me. Streaming ftmfw.
Even if you eat the increase and pay the $16 it's still a really, REALLY good fucking deal. Compare: Comcast OnDemand wants $4-8 for a 24 hr rental? Apple Store mostly the same? Amazon slightly better than that? Redbox/Blockbuster/etc requires a drive, a wait in a stupid fucking line and the one you want might not be available?
I haven't even used my DVD player in I don't know how long. Thinking about it, it's been at least 2 years since anyone in our house has even turned it on.
Image quality? I get solid 720p on my Roku which is upstairs, about 50 ft away through 3x walls and a floor, and gets and 'average' signal. Displayed on a 32" lcd it looks as good as Comcasts HD channel line up.
My WDTV+ is on a 50ft length of RJ45 and plugged in to a 50" Samsung plasma via HDMI. Netflix picture quality is always on par with Comcast HD programming.
Audio quality? C'mon... and audiophile or super techie will be able to quibble with Netflix audio quality but if you relax your sphincter for a minute and pretend to be a normal consumer (just listen to the damn movie!) you'll notice it's perfectly fucking fine. What are your priorities? Paying $8 a month for DVD quality audio or some larger, probably much larger, amount for BRD audio quality? Put what they DO provide in to perspective and I think you'll find a whole lot less to complain about.
People, it's not even close. Netflix is the shizniggity. Haters can kindly STFU and GTFO. 
Now their original business model is actually holding them back.
I don't remember the #'s but they've made no secret that it costs them about 10x as much to deliver a DVD vs stream it to a customer.
I wouldn't be surprised if Netflix was trying to actually get rid of the customers that only use it for DVD's. It would free up more $ that they could, hopefully, leverage in to more licensing agreements for more and more current streaming content.
How old is the DVD format? I don't know. Early 90's? That's from the Paeleasoric Period, in tech years. Streaming content is, more or less, device agnostic and just requires an internet or cell connection. Maybe it's not for everyone but it seems like a no-brainer to me. Streaming ftmfw.
Even if you eat the increase and pay the $16 it's still a really, REALLY good fucking deal. Compare: Comcast OnDemand wants $4-8 for a 24 hr rental? Apple Store mostly the same? Amazon slightly better than that? Redbox/Blockbuster/etc requires a drive, a wait in a stupid fucking line and the one you want might not be available?
I haven't even used my DVD player in I don't know how long. Thinking about it, it's been at least 2 years since anyone in our house has even turned it on.
Image quality? I get solid 720p on my Roku which is upstairs, about 50 ft away through 3x walls and a floor, and gets and 'average' signal. Displayed on a 32" lcd it looks as good as Comcasts HD channel line up.
My WDTV+ is on a 50ft length of RJ45 and plugged in to a 50" Samsung plasma via HDMI. Netflix picture quality is always on par with Comcast HD programming.
Audio quality? C'mon... and audiophile or super techie will be able to quibble with Netflix audio quality but if you relax your sphincter for a minute and pretend to be a normal consumer (just listen to the damn movie!) you'll notice it's perfectly fucking fine. What are your priorities? Paying $8 a month for DVD quality audio or some larger, probably much larger, amount for BRD audio quality? Put what they DO provide in to perspective and I think you'll find a whole lot less to complain about.
People, it's not even close. Netflix is the shizniggity. Haters can kindly STFU and GTFO.
amen.
