He's just mad he's got the 2nd best QB in the Bay Area.
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NFL 2018/2019 Thread
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He's just mad he's got the 2nd best QB in the Bay Area.
SteelerFanatic
TEAM BARF-MW2
I am sure Stanford, Cal, or San Jose state would rate above Carr. 
The poor guy has a broken back and hears foot steps in his sleep. He probably got sacked while you read this post.
The poor guy has a broken back and hears foot steps in his sleep. He probably got sacked while you read this post.
Bowling4Bikes
Steee-riiike!
I don't know what's worse for Pitt, Big Ben retiring...or Big Ben not retiring.
Agent Orange
The b0y ninja
https://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/49ers-quarterback-Jimmy-Garoppolo-s-record-12562380.php
he is going to be swimming in punnany
he is going to be swimming in punnany
FXCLM5
bombaclaud
for your track bikeTill cousins signs, then Rodgers, if anyone who should be mad is Brady. Do you think if Brady won they would have given him more then Jimmy g guranteed just for 2018?
Bowling4Bikes
Steee-riiike!
yep. it's a good point, but there will be no crying for Brady. He's fine with all of this.
Jimmy Garoppolo deal:
Signing bonus: $7 million.
Guaranteed roster bonus: $28M
2018 base salary: $6.2M (gtd)
Workout bonus: $600K
Per-game roster bonus: $800K
Year 1 total: $42.6M
$74.1M injury guarantee already kicked in.
2019 base salary: $17.2M, $7.5M of which is guaranteed at signing.
2019: Workout bonus: $600K
Per-game roster bonus: $800K
For 2019, will make $18.6M for a 2-year total of $61.2M - $10M more than he would have received if he had been franchised two straight times.
2020 base salary: $23.8M, $15.7M of which is guaranteed for injury.
If 49ers wanted, could cut him before April 1, 2020 and he would have made $61.2M and been a free agent.
2020 Workout bonus: $600K
Per-game roster bonus: $800K
At end of three seasons, he walks away with $86.4M.
2021: $24.1M base salary
2021 Workout bonus: $600K
Per-game roster bonus: $800K
If he makes it to NFC Championship game or is first- or second-team All Pro, then a $7.5M injury guarantee kicks in.
2022: $24.2M base salary
Workout bonus: $600K
Per-game roster bonus: $800K
Total is $137.5M.
So, essentially, they frontload the shit out of year 1 and 2 while they have boatloads of cap space, and then can go year-to-year with almost no dead money if something crazy happens and they have to cut him.
Totally a win-win deal.
Signing bonus: $7 million.
Guaranteed roster bonus: $28M
2018 base salary: $6.2M (gtd)
Workout bonus: $600K
Per-game roster bonus: $800K
Year 1 total: $42.6M
$74.1M injury guarantee already kicked in.
2019 base salary: $17.2M, $7.5M of which is guaranteed at signing.
2019: Workout bonus: $600K
Per-game roster bonus: $800K
For 2019, will make $18.6M for a 2-year total of $61.2M - $10M more than he would have received if he had been franchised two straight times.
2020 base salary: $23.8M, $15.7M of which is guaranteed for injury.
If 49ers wanted, could cut him before April 1, 2020 and he would have made $61.2M and been a free agent.
2020 Workout bonus: $600K
Per-game roster bonus: $800K
At end of three seasons, he walks away with $86.4M.
2021: $24.1M base salary
2021 Workout bonus: $600K
Per-game roster bonus: $800K
If he makes it to NFC Championship game or is first- or second-team All Pro, then a $7.5M injury guarantee kicks in.
2022: $24.2M base salary
Workout bonus: $600K
Per-game roster bonus: $800K
Total is $137.5M.
So, essentially, they frontload the shit out of year 1 and 2 while they have boatloads of cap space, and then can go year-to-year with almost no dead money if something crazy happens and they have to cut him.
Totally a win-win deal.
Eldritch
is insensitive
Yeah, that was the first thing I thought. Cousins just get even more expensive.
According to S. Ruiz over at FTW my 9ers paid too much for Jimmy-G. 
He almost had me convinced he was correct until he finished the article with this gem:
Does he even know who the team's top receiver was?
Considering what the other two starting QB did for their 5/6 games I have no problem with the contract. And I have no worry about the 9ers being labeled as "playoff also rans" for the duration of the contract.
He almost had me convinced he was correct until he finished the article with this gem:
Does he even know who the team's top receiver was?
Considering what the other two starting QB did for their 5/6 games I have no problem with the contract. And I have no worry about the 9ers being labeled as "playoff also rans" for the duration of the contract.
The point I got from the article was that the author thought the 9ers paid to much because JG is an untested commodity, not that the contract was poorly structured. YMMV
Bowling4Bikes
Steee-riiike!
what did he have, 8 total starts now?
insane.
insane.
I thought it was a bit more refined: don’t pay a QB until he takes you to the promised land. Meh. Just brushing over the stats from last year and seeing the moves Lynch and Shanny have made since they joined the organization I’m confident it was a good signing and will be worth every penny.
Bowling4Bikes
Steee-riiike!
hmmm....there's more than one way to win for sure.
I meant what I wrote, in that it's a lot of scratch for an unproven player. He really hasn't earned this. Matt Flynn had a couple of good games too, and then parlayed that into a gigantic contract. Only to fall flat. I get that the guy has like Never Lost a Game. And he's handsome. And the 9ers have a lot of cap room (that may dwindle quickly with more deals like this). It seems like a hell of a risk.
Hey, best of luck and may it all work out for your team.
and it's got an out after 2 years, and is only a couple million dollars more than just giving him the franchise tag twice.
I really wish people would look at more than just OMFG 5 YEARS 137.5 MILLION
Remember when Kaepernick's deal was 6 years and $126M. Yeah, about that....
I really wish people would look at more than just OMFG 5 YEARS 137.5 MILLION
Remember when Kaepernick's deal was 6 years and $126M. Yeah, about that....
FXCLM5
bombaclaud
league is fukn weird,
in every other job profession, the senior tadpole gets the most $$$, i just dont understand how qbs now take less to play the following year, when they see their shadow leave and take on massive $$$$.
Id be hitting my agent up for renegotiations!!!!!!!! wtf how can my backup now make more then me, this does not happen regularly in any other profession. Why should i stand and allow it to happen now, fuck that make salary cap space for MEEE, im tom m'fer brady
I guess, i view playing NFL as a $$$ and not a "team win feel good game"
in every other job profession, the senior tadpole gets the most $$$, i just dont understand how qbs now take less to play the following year, when they see their shadow leave and take on massive $$$$.
Id be hitting my agent up for renegotiations!!!!!!!! wtf how can my backup now make more then me, this does not happen regularly in any other profession. Why should i stand and allow it to happen now, fuck that make salary cap space for MEEE, im tom m'fer brady
I guess, i view playing NFL as a $$$ and not a "team win feel good game"
Bowling4Bikes
Steee-riiike!
well it sure has made multi-pro bowl Carr's contract more palatable.
and perhaps this would also force a team like the Seahawks to pay more for Wilson's contract that he's getting before the next season, thus pushing them closer to the cap ceiling.
it's possible this works out for the 9ers. Ultimately, success on the field will determine if the contract was justified.
and perhaps this would also force a team like the Seahawks to pay more for Wilson's contract that he's getting before the next season, thus pushing them closer to the cap ceiling.
it's possible this works out for the 9ers. Ultimately, success on the field will determine if the contract was justified.