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NFL 2023

Personally I can’t stand the fake war chant and the chop worse than any of the players, etc. I hadn’t read about the fan bit, but it’s a stadium full of insensitive morons who do that Hollywood war whoop and get all serious about it as they intone it. I really wish we could have a teachable, even gentle moment and move away from it. It’s a great team but I sure hate that tradition. Wince wave. It’s a weird misuse of the power of music that I would otherwise appreciate because we don’’t sing enough in the country, a basic human need, like dance as well. The soccer folks have songs in those countries and it’s a highlight, really, of the group experience.

Just try and imagine them all singing a line sounding like a Spiritual had the team had a discredited team name for black people. It is truly offensive in the context of all the other changes instituted lately in the name of de-colonization or some kind of social sensitivity. And even more so since its in the vicinity of the removal over the line in Oklahoma. I can imagine that a lot of people with native heritage just take it with some kind of grace but they shouldn’t have to.

One kid trying to color his face and wear a headdress pales in comparison imo. And yes, I know it’s white Karen territory to decide what someone else from a victim group should feel but c’moooooon, we moved away from Redskins and I think the Atlanta baseball team doesn’t do that shit anymore (I “loved” it when Jane Fonda did it).
 
Bowling4Bikes said:
yeah...there's some talk that it was just a bad angle. Apparently the kid may have had half-half painting of his face. here's a report stating the other half of his face was painted red: https://www.outkick.com/kid-chiefs-fan-isnt-guilty-of-blackface-bobby-burack/

still, not great decision making. But, probably not blackface.
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:laughing Oh boy, it makes the whole thing more dumb. Like, Black isn't even a Chiefs Color. If he had done Red and Yellow or Red and White, which I honestly have seen a lot of Chiefs do, he would have been fine.

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If there is one thing the NFL has taught us over the decades, it is no matter what it is, Blame the Raiders. Like I cannot believe the Raiders let Belichick steal so many signals over the years. And what is up with the Raiders allowing Michael Vick to do all that Dog fighting. It is even crazier that the Raiders let the Eagles hire him after he got out of jail.
 
Eldritch said:
:laughing Oh boy, it makes the whole thing more dumb. Like, Black isn't even a Chiefs Color. If he had done Red and Yellow or Red and White, which I honestly have seen a lot of Chiefs do, he would have been fine.

:laughing

If there is one thing the NFL has taught us over the decades, it is no matter what it is, Blame the Raiders. Like I cannot believe the Raiders let Belichick steal so many signals over the years. And what is up with the Raiders allowing Michael Vick to do all that Dog fighting. It is even crazier that the Raiders let the Eagles hire him after he got out of jail.
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:rofl:rofl They are the gift that keeps giving to their detractors.
 
Bay Arean said:
Personally I can’t stand the fake war chant and the chop worse than any of the players, etc. I hadn’t read about the fan bit, but it’s a stadium full of insensitive morons who do that Hollywood war whoop and get all serious about it as they intone it. I really wish we could have a teachable, even gentle moment and move away from it. It’s a great team but I sure hate that tradition. Wince wave. It’s a weird misuse of the power of music that I would otherwise appreciate because we don’’t sing enough in the country, a basic human need, like dance as well. The soccer folks have songs in those countries and it’s a highlight, really, of the group experience.

Just try and imagine them all singing a line sounding like a Spiritual had the team had a discredited team name for black people. It is truly offensive in the context of all the other changes instituted lately in the name of de-colonization or some kind of social sensitivity. And even more so since its in the vicinity of the removal over the line in Oklahoma. I can imagine that a lot of people with native heritage just take it with some kind of grace but they shouldn’t have to.

One kid trying to color his face and wear a headdress pales in comparison imo. And yes, I know it’s white Karen territory to decide what someone else from a victim group should feel but c’moooooon, we moved away from Redskins and I think the Atlanta baseball team doesn’t do that shit anymore (I “loved” it when Jane Fonda did it).
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That whole schtick is stolen from the Florida State Seminoles.

Not even original.
 
Bowling4Bikes said:
yeah...there's some talk that it was just a bad angle. Apparently the kid may have had half-half painting of his face. here's a report stating the other half of his face was painted red: https://www.outkick.com/kid-chiefs-fan-isnt-guilty-of-blackface-bobby-burack/

still, not great decision making. But, probably not blackface.
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Y'all got trolled by a crew who doesn't even care about football.

Andrew Schulz says it best here:

"Blackface is wrong. Racist. We agree? We agree...well kinda, sometimes we can do it"

[YOUTUBE]ivzeOhLk2NU[/YOUTUBE]
 
That's just "heckling" in Philly. Even though there's a body leakin' right in front of them after. HECKLING.
 
Holeshot said:
-snip-

"Blackface is wrong. Racist. We agree? We agree...well kinda, sometimes we can do it"
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Only when it's convenient, apparently.

I know all ya'll have seen the end zone crew at every raiders game ever, right? Full of black face and gorillas and every other thing someone can think of. But when a kid from the other team dresses up to support his team and have some fun..., THAT'S where you draw the line? :rolleyes
fukin two faced wannabe puritan sensitivity enforcers. :x

(Not aimed at Holeshot, just using his message quoted)
 
Lonster said:
Only when it's convenient, apparently.

I know all ya'll have seen the end zone crew at every raiders game ever, right? Full of black face and gorillas and every other thing someone can think of. But when a kid from the other team dresses up to support his team and have some fun..., THAT'S where you draw the line? :rolleyes
fukin two faced wannabe puritan sensitivity enforcers. :x

(Not aimed at Holeshot, just using his message quoted)
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:thumbup welcome to the thread!

I shall call out each Raiders fan who I see in full blackface from now on. Having some troubles finding pictures of those obvious racists in full blackface, whom I've been letting off the hook though. Care to share some of your pics?

no? how about where KC has black on their uniform?

no? how about where KC has a headdress on their uniform then?

help show me how fucking two faced I am
 
Holeshot said:
Y'all got trolled by a crew who doesn't even care about football.
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agreed, it looks like we did! I should have researched further before responding. I got duped pretty good by a pic of a boy in a headdress and a painted face that doesn't match the team he was rooting for.

Myself, I'll try to be better. Thanks for calling me out!
 
Seems pretty obvious that raiders fans wearing black makeup isn't blackface. May as well argue that every black ski mask, or even wearing a black helmet, is blackface. Playground argument at best, flat out dishonest at worst, so not great either way.
 
I will forever be thinking about how offensive Darth Raider must be to foliowers of the Dark Side of the Force... :(


:laughing


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GAJ said:
That whole schtick is stolen from the Florida State Seminoles.

Not even original.
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(In Carson voice) “I did NOT know that.”

Yes, even lamer. When do good ideas ever come from Florida, especially lately?

(JK, but how can I resist?)
 
Yes, the reverence for Native American cultures is on full display... at Met Life stadium, as it was pointed out that the PC thugs at Arrowhead have banned headdresses and such. :facepalm

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Seriously, painting a face in silver and black, dare I say, pales in comparison to this shit.
 
I always like how buck and aikman aren't afraid to talk some shit.
 
Bowling4Bikes said:
agreed, it looks like we did! I should have researched further before responding.
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Ehhh....I probably woulda been caught up in it too if I wasn't late enough to be the grand benefactor of the correction link. Sometimes...rather, all the times in football, timing is everything!

Johndicezx9 said:
Seriously, painting a face in silver and black, dare I say, pales in comparison to this shit.
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ISWYDT!
 
BillSmith said:
...and then there's this guy,
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You mean the next coach of the Chargers? :laughing

Of course he'll bring his boys Josh McD, Bill O'Brien, and a bevy of failed twigs off the BB "coaching tree".

Bay Arean said:
Yeh, we had it on while eating dinner but it just got more and more hopeless. I don’t know what the future for that Dobbs kid is, but not sure it’s in the NFL.
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No shock in a 3rd/4th string QB playing like one, but the Vikes are gonna Vike and play "down" to teams. Dobbs has had moments, but defenses now have film on him as well. :dunno
 
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