Ninja 250s are coming to Buttonwillow March 20-21

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Ninja 250s are coming to Sears Point April 25-26

I'll have the entire Ninja 250 rental fleet at Buttonwillow for the opening AFM round. Great way to get on the track, get your license, get your buddies on the track, etc. Bikes are a blast around Buttonwillow and will improve your brake marker and apex throttle awareness. $250 per day includes gas, tires, shade, muffins, beverages and pit support. I have 2 free AMB transponder loaners for the first 2 people to rent and reserve needing a transponder. I also have new Teknic rental leathers and gloves.

Video of my 250 at Buttonwillow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2HnEld-z3Q

As most of you know, we had a great year at WSMC with our Ninja Cup. AFM has new 250 Prod rules this year for the new bikes. I'm here to help the new class take off, so hit me up with any questions you might have. I'll be at all the AFM rounds this year with the fleet and my Aprilia RS250. Looking forward to seeing old AFM friends and meeting the rest of you

See the site for info and reservations

www.RaceBikeRentals.com

 

[PINNITT]

sounds like fun man. myself and some of the guys have already talked about doin this for fun one weekend. ill definetly come by and and talk to ya about settin somethin up for a non AFM weekend.

good luck to ya in 09'
Hollis

 

[Holeshot]

Back up! Thanks for supporting BARF and the AFM Richard!

 

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[gpg]

Dam that looks fun, smok'in that Gixer on a 250ddy.

...anyone what to buy a 06 1000rr?

 

[ZIM]

Go Ninja Boy!

 

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Yeah, those B group trackday guys are easy pickens... even on a 2Fiddy

 

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Will have the entire fleet at Sears Point April 25-26 for the AFM weekend. These bikes are a TON of fun at Sears! This is your chance to beat up on Brian Bartlow, king of Sears 250 Production.

 

[EC70]

Those little guys produce big smiles

I can only image the look on that guy's face on the blue 600 getting passed

Great stuff

I also love your pass in the last right handed sweeper only to get passed again and repass him going into the last corner

Oh no you don't

Great Stuff

 

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I took my leeetle 250 up to Sears Point last month for a PTT track day. Entered the B group. Now that was interesting. People don't give these little things enough credit. The 600s and 1000s turned out to be rolling brake markers for the wee 250, and cornering was no contest. Moved up to A group and smiles were big all around. Great fun watching C-Call back his bike in on the brakes into the hairpin after the back straight

 

[EC70]

I have ridden a Ninja500 on the street and a CBR400RR around BW and that was a blast passing the bigger bikes

I will look you up later in the year to try one of those little guys out

It is a cheap and easy way to get into racing

 

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[DirtyD]

Moved up to A group and smiles were big all around. QUOTE]


I was certainly smiling when I went by you on the dragstrip like you had thrown out the anchor.

 

[Zerox]

I took my leeetle 250 up to Sears Point last month for a PTT track day. Entered the B group. Now that was interesting. People don't give these little things enough credit. The 600s and 1000s turned out to be rolling brake markers for the wee 250, and cornering was no contest.

Plz post vid.

 

[Supermoto594]

250 proddy is where it is at guys! Had a blast last year on my DRZ racing those older built ninjas, super jealous that I cant afford it this year! Nothing is better for learning to rail than going fast on a slow bike!

 

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I was certainly smiling when I went by you on the dragstrip like you had thrown out the anchor.

12 ft lbs of torque has a way of making that dragstrip seem real long

 

[Dove]

I watched your video and read the comments...TYPICAL for Aluisous.


Good on you for doing something positive for the motorcycle community!

 

[Gary J]

I watched your video .....

Most folks know how much love I have for Ninja 250's, but in watching the video I've got to say that there were "things going on" out there on track that weren't really all that pretty ..... if you know what to look for.

From personal experience, I know that being 80-120HP down on the majority of the bikes that are out on track (when riding a Ninja 250) during a "B+/B Group" session, creates an environment that has some real risks/problems associated with it. Regardless of the skill level of the rider on the 250.

The lack of acceleration, and overall speed in the faster areas of the track (purely as a result of the limitations of the 28HP, 250cc engine'd machine), creates some serious mis-matches that contributes to an increased probability of an incident. An incident that can easily be totally out of the control of the 250'cc pilot, regardless of decisions made on track.

In the video, the interaction (passing, re-passing) with the larger stature rider, in the blue-white leathers, on the blue-white bike, is a clear example of the volatile chemistry that can exist.

A chemistry that fortunately didn't result in any incident in this one session ...... but one that if the dice are rolled enough times (enough sessions, at enough trackdays, on a 28HP Ninja 250)...... will (unfortunately) almost surely result in something bad happening.

What drives that peronal opinion (FWIW)? A serious (approx 100MPH) "take-out" incident coming through Turn 8a at an Infineon Raceway trackday last year, while riding a Ninja 250.

Despite running lap times that were quicker than 90+% of the bikes/riders out on track in the "B+ Group" sessions (meaning the bike was technically, by the rules, definitely running in the "right group"), the closing speeds on acceleration (in some areas), and disparity in the acceleration rates between the Ninja 250 and the bigger bore bikes on track (including bikes running lap times 10 seconds+/lap slower than the Ninja 250), made for some "bad chemistry".

That chemistry resulting in the Ninja 250 being a bit of a sitting duck, that could be (accidentally) gunned down at any moment, in a number of the sections where pure power/acceleration dictate the rate of speed, regardless of the skill level of the pilot. The potential inability for less experienced riders, on very powerful, fast-accelerating bikes, to be able to recognize the acceleration/speed differential in such mis-match situations, is the largest factor that results in the risky condition.

Seeing what I saw in that video, of only a lap (or so) in a single session, with the passing/repassing activities and interaction between bikes/riders, only resulted in reinforcing the impressions I'd taken away from personal on-track time on a Ninja 250, in the faster (B+/B) groups.

To each their own, and I only wish for incident-free riding for anyone that takes to the track (including those that elect to do so on a 28HP, 250cc machine), but my opinion (FWIW) is that the decision to engage in cases with such a mis-match of machinery at trackdays, while in the "B+/B" group, is like a revolver with one bullet in the chamber. May get away with it many times, and become complacent that "all is fine" ..... but eventually, the odds are something bad is going to happen.

Your mileage may vary, of course. arty

 

[Dove]

Why did you quote me Gary?

I was referring to Aluisous and his posturing comments about c group riders...weak braking, corner parking and such.

He was posing on Utube just like Barf.

I haven't a clue why you wrote me a novel.

 

[Dove]

all comments made by the grand Aluisous...

This video proves that if you ride a 250R in C group and break the rules (the rider was making inside passes which are banned in any C group I've heard of) you can pass bigger bikes.

You'd have to be very timid to get passed by a 250R on a 600...just like these riders were.

I assumed it was C because a lot of the riding there looks like what I've seen in C groups...parking in corners, weak braking, clumping, bad body positioning...

Guess it goes to show that B is the cluster F of the three group system. Having A group sandbaggers on the track at the same time as too-proud C groupers is a scary mix.

You'd like to see an interview of C group novices who got passed by a bike breaking the rules?

Yeah I'm sure that would be fascinating.

...he's faster than some newbies on 600s. The 250R is not faster than a 600 in a corner on the track. The suspension is a major limit