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Not so typical young male on a 600? Your thoughts

i started my motorcycle life on a 100hp motorcycle.

should i have started on something smaller. NO THANKS.

im still here, im still riding, im still having a great time.

should everyone start on a 600? probably not. should everyone start on a pinner 250...PROBABLY NOT.
 
i started my motorcycle life on a 100hp motorcycle.

should i have started on something smaller. NO THANKS.

im still here, im still riding, im still having a great time.

should everyone start on a 600? probably not. should everyone start on a pinner 250...PROBABLY NOT.

Did you start at age 21?

If so perhaps you can share with the OP your keys to progress without crashing.
 
Not that it will ever happen, but I wish Motorcycle Rlders ( I mean All of them) would talk like they knew how the Various engines work. It's like they think an inine 4, 600 is street traffic simular to a 650 twin or single, maybe...cause the displacement numbers are so about the same. The test reports that give dyno HP numbers provide a dis-service to don't know what anything but a number is, types, either.
 

Sometimes, BARF as a collective can be douchey (I contribute here and there).

People are just trying to tell you that they have heard this countless times before, and that your bike IS still a 600 sportbike. I didn't sense the large-ego vanity that others seem to have.

Take things easy, keep up the gear/cautiousness, and DO understand that you are still a complete newbie. Practice, practice, practice. Start learning about leaning, serious braking, etc.
 
Started on a yzf600r at 16. Didn't kill myself but I wouldn't recommend it and wouldn't do it again
 
Devil's advocate, here: You can't know what your limits are until you have found your limit.

Limits can be found, established and re-established thourgh small, incremental and non-catastrophic breaches. Happens everyday in real-life applications. "Can't know limits until crashed" only became a saying because, well, we are too lazy and ignorant to be original... or factual.
 
I agree we should all start out on a Kawasaki 250r and wear a one piece leather track suit every time we throw a leg over a bike, but this is America. If you have an m1 endorsement on your license and have enough money you can ride anything you want to begin with. I've seen people start out on 600 cbr and big ol HD Roadkings, definitely not the best choices but perfectly legal. I guess some of must learn not to get our panties all in a bunch when we see a newb riding something other than a 250 or a dirt bike. Bad decisions? People in glass houses.
 
Well, we're in to page 3 here, but may as well toss my 2c in...

The second highest risk group after 18-25 year olds is reentry riders in their 40s. They've probably got a decent amount of maturity, but they're still very high risk, very likely to be involved in an accident.

What does this say? It indicates to me that a higher level of maturity has very little to do with crashing. A lower level of maturity makes it worse, but it appears that the real danger is inexperience and lack of training.

Rather than thinking that your maturity will protect you and justify your choice of a 600 as a beginner bike, you should accept that the gains to being mature are relatively limited and do not shield you from your lack of experience and skill, and that as a result of your bike choice, you should focus even more strongly on gaining experience and learning as safely as possible, because the bike is doing you no favors.
 
I guess some of must learn not to get our panties all in a bunch when we see a newb riding something other than a 250 or a dirt bike. Bad decisions? People in glass houses.
Those of us who are experienced rider aren't saying that you can't learn on the bikes you've listed, just that you improve the odds considerably of learning to ride safely on a bike that's easier to control. Or did you miss that part of this long discussion?
 
A non safety related reason to start on a smaller/low power motorcycle:

Your first motorcycle sets the baseline of what motorcycles feel like and how they perform. Just as someone born into privilege has an expectation of certain things, so too would a new rider on a powerful motorcycle. Why not set that baseline on a 20hp, poorly suspended motorcycle? Everything after that will feel like a Hayabusa.
 
Been real busy since i last posted, but have read all the replies. Thank you to everyone who replied, whether or not you meant to actually help :twofinger
I, by no means, expect maturity to compensate for experience. Unless that experience is from what to expect from crashing into a parked car after trying to wheelie off a stoplight.
I take riding very seriously as I have a lot i still want to accomplish in life: family, career, education, etc. I wanted to see if i am taking the correct approach to riding. Based on my own experience off the motorcycle, I ALWAYS check my ego at the door before doing anything dangerous as i never saw any worthwhile benefit, only unnecessary risks with very severe consequences.

I also knew a 600cc sportbike would not be the best option for a beginner. I could go into why i picked a sportbike, but that would create another topic for this thread that is unnecessary. Hint: it wasn't for the ladies :laughing

While i cannot wait until i can hit laguna seca or ride down hwy 1 to Hearst Castle, I know pretty damn well that it is well above my limit at this time to ride at anywhere near the posted speed limits. I know my limits, and i know it will be years until i get to know my bike's limits.

DataDan: Looks like my editing skills weren't good enough as i missed out on those two sentences put together. I was not attracted to the triple digit speeds or wheelies, stunting on a motorcycle doesn't amuse me at all actually. Unless it's a dirtbike jumping in the sand dunes :thumbup
I particularly like the bulletpoints on mindset that you provided by the way, especially the fairness as a rider :ride

To the people who saw an over-confident, ego-driven snowflake: I can't convince you that I'm not that as you never have met/ridden with me. So i won't try to nitpick.

To the people who got me, thank you. A lot of great replies and advice. As much as i would like to latch onto a more experienced sportbike rider, i don't know anyone who rides sportbikes other than the BARF community. The only ones i do know are the same guys my age who do stunts and treat the street like a track. As much as i would like to ride with them because they also ride a motorcycle, I know doing so would only envision sportbike riding as doing those acts. I simply don't see that in my a long riding career.
 
Dude just stay alert out there and ride within your limits.don't put 300 go pros on your bike and you won't end up like jiggles
 
Great that you think you have a good mindset, but that sense of immortality all young people have is that other friend that will kick your ass when you least expect it.
 
I was racing an RD400 at age 12 (god damn, that's a scary bike) and a GSXR at age 15. I survived (somehow). My first bike was a little RM-80, though (age 7). I learned A LOT on dirt before I transitioned to pavement. Unfortunately, I have lost most of my dirt skills (working on regaining them now that I'm a fat, slow, old man).

I will agree that mellow bikes are generally better for beginning riders, but the fact that he is starting out on a 600 doesn't mean that he is automatically doomed.
 
Hey BARFers, I've had this question for a while but i never knew any riders before i got a motorcycle. It's very common to hear about the typical young male on a sportbike performing unnecessarily dangerous maneuvers on busy public roads, but not too much is heard about the responsible, mature young rider. Is there even such a thing? What is the preferred mindset? It's best explained given my background, but there is a condensed version at the end.

I had never had any interest in motorcycles or cars up until a year ago when i hung out with this guy that was the same age as me (20) who had a sportbike. I, being a curious person, questioned about the bike and the feeling as i never had the chance of riding any sort of motorized vehicle besides a car and a rented ATV at pismo. He mostly talked about the triple digit speeds he frequently rides the bike at and how he wheelies a ton after not even riding bikes for too long. It sounded interesting. He described the feeling as "having a rocket between your legs that can stop, turn, and speed up whenever you wanted".
After he mentioned the agility of the sportbike, I began having an almost uncontrollable desire to purchase one myself.
As i began the slow process of deciding on the bike i wanted, I looked more towards safety and the consequences of riding a motorcycle, much less a sportbike given it's twitchy-ness and capabilities. After buying all the gear i wanted: helmet, jacket, knee/shin guards, gloves, etc and the optional MSF course where i rode a bike for the very first time. After accepting the consequences and feeling very confident in my reflexes and situational awareness, I decided i was ready for the motorcycle.

Now i watched countless videos and read many pages regarding motorcycle control beforehand, and wound up purchasing my current 600cc sportbike.
I let the bike sit in front of my house for 2 months starting it occasionally until i had enough money to buy new tires, brake pads, and full coverage for the bike before i took it off my street. I first started off riding very slow on uncongested roads until i felt a little more comfortable riding in town slowly rarely getting above 7k rpm, let alone the 14k redline. I never rode without full gear either. Fast forward 2 months later, i now have 1750 miles on the bike and have full confidence riding in town and have even ridden up to San Jose for the weekend to ride the busier city streets. I believe i have much to learn and will always have more to learn.

As for my mindset on the motorcycle, I looked at the motorcycle as something that was capable of matching my mind when it came to agility on the streets to avoid accidents (not reducing the damage). Now ever since i literally transformed from a rebellious, immature child, i have never once been called immature in any sense since i turned 21, besides my inability to grow a full beard yet :rofl
I am, however, told many times that i am incredibly mature for my age. I take this as a verification in my decision to buy and operate a 600cc spr0tbile without an urge to speed everywhere and make unwise choices on the road. Every single i have made was not done without safety first in my mind: "should i pass this car to be ahead of traffic, or slow down to allow a larger bubble of space?"
Given the somewhat stereotypical mindset of young sportbike riders, am i thinking the best way possible in order to have a long, injury-free riding career?

Condensed version:
I am a brand new rider and I believe i have a higher maturity level than the typical young sportbike rider. I accept the consequences and always think safety first when going for a ride. Is my view on riding motorcycles the best in order to ensure a long-lived riding career? I don't see myself ever retiring from a motorcycle.
you love hearing yourself talk dont you,
 
you love hearing yourself talk dont you,

Because he took the time to write that out? Jeezus, why bother responding if you think he is into himself? I don't get some people.
 
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