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Please edumacate me: deck finish

There is still old growth up in mendicino, I watched a video of some guys cutting a huge redwood tree, had a huge saw with something like a 48 to 60in bar and a 40ton hydraulic jack to get it pointed the right way. Comments equated cutting it down to murder, but thats where wood comes from and the trees dont live forever. The spotted owl and tripple dicked salamander stopped a lot of logging. Once the logging business got pooched the only thing to keep a lot of communities alive was weed.

Good info here about treating wood, sorry if I rant.

Yes, there are actually some trees LEFT. The trees live 500-700 years, some of the coastal trees are over 2,000 years old. That's what you want to cut down. A tree that was alive when Jesus was. Think about it. Old growth is OLD. If you cut it down it is GONE. It WON'T come back. So basically you want to cut down one of the oldest living species on the planet to build a deck. O, and trees do live forever. They seed and keep going, if you don't log them. If you log them, they are gone. 96% of the old growth trees have been logged.
 
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Pay attention closely to the directions. If it says 2 coats in 24 hours, make sure it's either waiting 24 hours OR the 2nd coat has to added after 24 hours.

Sometimes it's a pain to wait but necessary. They (stain makers) will also hammer you if the deck fails and you didn't follow the directions to a T.
 
Well everything ages out, redwoods are good for 2000 or so years then they fall over and die and rot to earth. If you can take an old tree and cut it down, it can be used for all sorts of good products. I believe in forestry management not wanton destruction. I remember riding the back side of 36 towards fortuna and seeing monster redwood stumps.
 
Well everything ages out, redwoods are good for 2000 or so years then they fall over and die and rot to earth. If you can take an old tree and cut it down, it can be used for all sorts of good products. I believe in forestry management not wanton destruction. I remember riding the back side of 36 towards fortuna and seeing monster redwood stumps.

You have already cut down 95% of the old growth. :laughing

Please explain how "forestry management" ( which means cutting down trees) "manages" old growth. I remember old growth too. Are you happy cutting down trees that were alive when Christ was to build your deck? Don't see anything a bit self centered about that?
 
Thanks for the info yall!

Now to join the derailment: jesus was a carpenter. He'd probably be ok with getting some good wood.

3rd grade reject wood is fine by me tho. It's just a deck
 
I heard this at a talk a couple of years ago, by one of the people attempting to build a clock to last 10,000 years (for reasons too long to tap out on a phone).

He said time came to replace the oak beams on a 500 year old University building in England. The people tasked with the replacement were having a tough time locating a supplier with oak lumber large and long enough to work. I believe even the replacement project was before steel beams were in use.

Finally they reached out to the forestry (or horticulture, I forget) dept department asking if they knew where on Earth suitable trees could be found. The department reported that when the building was first built, a Grove of oak trees was planted on land the University owned, for the express purpose of ensuring there was suitable wood for replacing the beams thirty or more generations later. That took some planning and foresight, but it seemed to work.

Anyway, all that to say, old growth redwood is a renewable resource, if you're thinking and acting beyond a single life span.

As for the thread; all I can say is don't use Behr Deckover as a finish. It's garbage, and there's a class action suit hoping to prove it.
 
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I heard this at a talk a couple of years ago, by one of the people attempting to build a clock to last 10,000 years (for reasons too long to tap out on a phone).

He said time came to replace the oak beams on a 500 year old University building in England. The people tasked with the replacement were having a tough time locating a supplier with oak lumber large and long enough to work. I believe even the replacement project was before steel beams were in use.

Finally they reached out to the forestry (or horticulture, I forget) dept department asking if they knew where on Earth suitable trees could be found. The department reported that when the building was first built, a Grove of oak trees was planted on land the University owned, for the express purpose of ensuring there was suitable wood for replacing the beams thirty or more generations later. That took some planning and foresight, but it seemed to work.

Anyway, all that to say, old growth redwood is a renewable resource, if you're thinking and acting beyond a single life span.

As for the thread; all I can say is don't use Behr Deckover as a finish. It's garbage, and there's a class action suit hoping to prove it.

For sure. I planted thousand of redwoods in the sixties in Big Sur. They still have about 400 years to go to be small old growth.
 
This is the same argument against fossil fuels, I dont like coal, oil, or natural gas, but my high standard of living depends on them. Next time you go into surgery dont depend on the autoclave to sterilize equipment, peppermint oil and fairy dust does the same thing. Also the chemical comanies are evil so keep all the sterile plastic packaging, hemp burlap works great. I dont want to argue(but love to). Getting many thousand of board feet of lumber out of a tree provides jobs for many people, I never cut down a redwood tree so dont call me a tree murderer. Love you guys so do your best not to hate me.

My sisters husband used to work for SPI(sierra pacific industry) and modern logging companies use every bit of wood including cogeneration plant for carbon neutral energy. Just get a bad name from the tree huggers. My uncle told me the original tree huggers were loggers, they could see if a tree was ready to be harvested by hugging it. Thats it, gonna go huff boiled linseed oil if you need ne.
 
This is the same argument against fossil fuels, I dont like coal, oil, or natural gas, but my high standard of living depends on them. Next time you go into surgery dont depend on the autoclave to sterilize equipment, peppermint oil and fairy dust does the same thing. Also the chemical comanies are evil so keep all the sterile plastic packaging, hemp burlap works great. I dont want to argue(but love to). Getting many thousand of board feet of lumber out of a tree provides jobs for many people, I never cut down a redwood tree so dont call me a tree murderer. Love you guys so do your best not to hate me.

My sisters husband used to work for SPI(sierra pacific industry) and modern logging companies use every bit of wood including cogeneration plant for carbon neutral energy. Just get a bad name from the tree huggers. My uncle told me the original tree huggers were loggers, they could see if a tree was ready to be harvested by hugging it. Thats it, gonna go huff boiled linseed oil if you need ne.

:laughing
 
ok. time to talk about my deck again.

it's been nearly a year and i haven't applied any finish to it, because i haven't had time. also was wishy washy on the product.

i am fairly glad to have waited though because though the picture i'm about to post sucks, it shows that the deck has weathered unevenly. this is because one section is covered by the house roof, the other exposed to the sky and more sun and water (rain)

i will probably sand the whole thing to even the color out before applying a finish.

I happened to be in home despot today and they appear to be closing out a bunch of the wood stains and stuff including Thompsons water seal in a "transparent" redwood variety. it likely has some tint to it

Thompson's water seal isn't very good. I'd avoid it. ...

All I did was use Thompson's sealant. .....the deck had been on it for 20+ years with no issues.


so, can you two arm wrestle and make a decision please?
 

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