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Police harras and enter mans home

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Check this out. Police without court ordered warrant harras then enter a mans home and is shot by highly trained former ####### a####.


CHESAPEAKE

Portlock residents who saw a deadly police shooting unfold on their “quiet street” are finding it difficult to return to normalcy. The man accused of killing Detective Jarrod Shivers said he had no idea the man he shot was a police officer until it was too late.

Redstart Avenue, a street that dead-ends at a church, still was reeling Friday after a police officer was fatally shot there the night before. The residents say they are in disbelief after realizing that a 28-year-old neighbor is a suspect.

“It shocked me to death,” said Mavis Cosner, who has lived on the street since 1960. “I’m still a little nervous.”

Shivers, a 34-year-old father, was shot as was trying to enter at the house in the street’s 900 block around 8:30 p.m. He and several other officers were there with a search warrant as part of a drug investigation, police said.

Shivers was pronounced dead at Sentara Norfolk General Hospital. He left behind a wife and three children – ages 2, 8 and 14.

After the shooting, detectives on scene retreated for their safety. The home, which sits in the middle of the block, remained surrounded until the SWAT team arrived and entered.

Police arrested 28-year-old Ryan David Frederick, who lived at the home, and charged him with first-degree murder and use of a firearm in the commission of a felony. He is being held in the Chesapeake City Jail.

Frederick said in a jailhouse interview Friday he had no idea a police officer was on the other side of the door when he opened fire.

“No, sir,” he told WAVY-TV. “I just wish I knew who they were,” he said. “I didn’t want any trouble.”

Frederick said he was in bed when he heard someone trying to come into the home.

“I thought it was the person who had broken into my house the other day,” he said.

Frederick said his home had been burglarized two or three days earlier.

Frederick’s family could not be reached for comment, and he declined to speak to The Virginian-Pilot.

Police did not say whom they were investigating when they executed the search warrant. Other than a few misdemeanor traffic violations, Frederick has not been convicted of any felony crimes in Chesapeake, according to online court records.

Chesapeake police spokeswoman Christi Golden said she could not comment on specifics of the incident, including whether the officers who tried to serve the narcotics warrant were in uniform.

“They are undercover detectives,” Golden said. As such, they would typically be in street clothes. But, when serving warrants, even undercover officers “usually have something that says 'police,’” she said. “They are identified in some way, shape or form.”

Cosner described Frederick as “a quiet boy.”

“Goes to work every day and comes home every night,” she said.

Frederick made local news in 2005 when he sued Dr. Sidney Loxley for $1.7 million, accusing the Chesapeake physician of medicating his mother to the point that she became addicted and later died of an overdose. Frederick’s mother, a former Chesapeake Sheriff’s Department employee, died in 2003.

“It does make you very nervous,” said Sandra Brooks, a Redstart Avenue resident. “Last night I had a hard time sleeping. I just feel so sorry for the poor police officer doing his job.”

The last Chesapeake officer to die in the line of duty was Michael Saffran, 45, on Oct. 8, 2005. Saffran was shot after responding to a bank robbery.

“Our work is inherently dangerous,” said Jack Crimmins, president of the Chesapeake Coalition of Police. “I think a lot of people take our work for granted. Unfortunately, these types of events are increasing instead of decreasing. And it’s a very sad trend.”

Jack Bider, president of the Fraternal Order of Police, said all attention now turns to Shivers’ survivors.

“The FOP will pull together,” Bider said. “We’re concerned about the family, and we’re making sure they’re taken care of.”

The thought of not making it home is in the back of every officer’s mind, he said.

“Every time we wake up in the morning, with a weapon on our hip and a badge on our chest, we think about it.”

John Hopkins, (757) 222-5221, john.hopkins@pilotonline.com
 
are we all reading the same article? where was the harassment? it states that they did have a search warrant. what exactly are you trying to acomplish here?
 
Damn dude, you failed in your own thread :laughing

RIP to the officer :( That little 2-year-old is never going to know his/her dad

And sounds like they said he opened fire THROUGH the door :wtf
 
It does sound like the guy failed to identify his target since he says "he had no idea a police officer was on the other side of the door when he opened fire." I suppose it's possible that the officer was in plainclothes, kicked in the door and failed to identify himself... Unlikely as hell, but possible. Still don't see any harassment in the article. Looks more like some guy that was jumpy after being robbed and maybe a touch paranoid about a previous shooting in the area decided to shoot first and ask questions later (most charitable take I can think of) just fucked up in the most amazing way possible. This assumes that the warrant was being served at the wrong address as well, but that still doesn't excuse him from shooting at an unidentified target.
 
HARRAS?

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This would be a funny thread if it didn't revolve around the LEO shooting.
 
Check this out. Police without court ordered warrant harras then enter a mans home and is shot by highly trained former ####### a####.

What you say




Shivers, a 34-year-old father, was shot as was trying to enter at the house in the street’s 900 block around 8:30 p.m. He and several other officers were there with a search warrant as part of a drug investigation, police said.

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What the article reads.

Did you not even read the fucking thing before you posted it or did you just start this thread as an attempt to piss people off ?!?!?

I'm gonna go with a lil bit of both, regardless, you fail. :thumbdown
 
More to the story

Although the original post on this thread was a bit misinformed, there is actually a lot more to this story than meets the eye.

I live in Norfolk, just north of where this happened and have been following the story closely.

The story smelled from day one and the more information comes to light, the more it smells.

First, don't get me wrong, I'm very sympathetic to the officer that died. I have no doubt that he was following standard Police procedures and did his job to the best of his abilities. it is the Police procedures and the ongoing militarization of our Police Forces that is at fault here.

First, the warrant was issued on nothing more than the word of a confidential informant.

The CI told the Police that the suspect had a large scale marijuana growing operation in his detached garage. The warrant bears this out. The Police conducted no surveillance of the house other than a couple of "drive by looks" that turned up nothing out of the ordinary. There was no attempt to make a controlled buy, no effort to verify the CI's information, no investigation AT ALL. Just the word of a "trusted CI".

On the affidavit presented to the Judge, the CI "was known to the officer and had provided reliable information in the past.

What has come out later, not admitted to by the police as of yet (the trial is scheduled for January 09), but according to local news investigations: How did the CI have knowledge of a "large scale growing operation"? Remember that break in a few days earlier that had Frederick jumpy? There you go. The CI was the burglar. He was caught and being charged. He squealed to get a break on his charges. What's more, he has since gone missing and is now wanted.

The plot thickens: The CI had a history with Frederick. The CI had dated or was dating a relative of Frederick (I believe it was his cousin) and Frederick did not approve. The CI was unhappy that Frederick was blocking him. Pay back? How convenient...the cops are asking me for information on drug dealers...I'm pissed at Frederick...How about having them bust his door down in the night, that'll shake him up.

Another minor detail: Turns out that this was the first tip the CI had ever given the Police. Remember the affidavit? The one where the judge was told that the CI was "known to the officer and has provided reliable information in the past?" Pure BS. The warrant was issued on false pretenses.

It also turns out that there may have been another informant/break-in accomplice. This person happens to be in jail right now and is not talking (any more) but it is reported that in the past, he has made accusations that the Police PAID THEM to break into suspected drug dealer's homes so that they can then "Inform" the police that there is evidence in the home and justify a search warrant. That one is still very much unproven, but if the defense can get this guy to testify in Frederick's trial, it could blow the lid off the entire Narcotics division of the Chesapeake Police Department.

During the grand jury testimony, the Police officer testified that he knocked and announced three times, each time lasting approximately four seconds.

He also testified that they made the call that the "raid" had been compromised and started breaking the door down as soon as "a light changed" in the house. They did not give Frederick the opportunity to answer the door.

Frederick was a soda delivery person who started work early in the morning (like, 4am). At 8:30, he was sound asleep. He has said that he did not hear the police announce, that his dogs barking woke him up. He turned on the light, picked up his pistol and then the door started crashing as they tried to break it down. Incidentally, several of the neighbors were interviewed by the news reporters. Some of them were still up and about at that time of night and some of them even saw the Police activity going on at Frederick's house. Not one of them that I saw interviewed remembered hearing the Police announce. They remembered hearing the door being broken in and hearing a couple of shots, but no one remembers anyone yelling "Police, Search Warrant".

An any rate, He said that he assumed that it was the same people who had broken in a few days before and was only trying to defend his home.

He says that as he went out the door of his bedroom, the hallway was dark but he saw a figure "trying to crawl through" the bottom panel of the front door which had been broken out. He fired twice at the figure, scoring one hit.

He did say that he "fired through the door" at one point, but I got the impression that he only fired through the door in the sense that the door was still closed and the person was not all the way through yet. The police testified that the officer was standing outside the door and Frederick shot through it. The truth will probably come out at trial with forensic testimony, but I find it very difficult to believe that a .380 auto...generally considered the smallest caliber useful for self defense...penetrated an exterior door and still had sufficient energy to kill a Police officer (who was wearing a bullet resistant vest) by going THROUGH his arm and into his chest cavity. I'm not saying it's impossible. But improbable indeed. The exterior door was sturdy enough that the battering ram the Police used did not breach it, it only knocked out the lower panel. But the door was not sturdy enough to slow down a weak .380 round on the way through? The scenario that Frederick describes is much more plausible. The bullet did not go through the door because the officer's arm and part of his body was inside the house as he was crawling through the lower door panel that had been knocked out by the battering ram. Frederick shot the part of him that was inside the house. He fell back outside onto the front porch after being shot. Again, purely speculation on my part but I'd be very surprised if that's not how it happened.

When Frederick realized that it was the Police outside his home, he surrendered peacefully.

Before the results of the search were released, Frederick gave a jailhouse interview in which he says he was a recreational pot user and may have had a joint in the house, but that's it. He swore that he is not a grower or dealer.

The search revealed a small amount of pot (processed, not plants), some lights that the police contend are "grow lights" and a few other odds and ends. Interestingly, neither Frederick, nor the Police say anything about the Police firing a shot, but a .223 shell casing was listed on the search results. The Police were carrying .223 caliber M4 Carbines. Frederick's only firearm was a .380 pistol.

There was no "complex, large scale grow operation" uncovered. It turns out that Frederick is an avid gardener. He had a "koi pond" in his backyard and was well known in the neighborhood for giving gardening and landscaping tips and helping neighbors out with gardening. He also reportedly had some Japanese maple trees, who's leaves do look similar to marijuana...but no pot plants were found.

The Police's reasoning for using a dynamic entry to serve the search warrant was the fear that he would destroy evidence. That doesn't hold water, however, because the grow operation was supposedly housed in a DETACHED garage. How, exactly, would they expect him to "destroy evidence" that was contained in a different building than the one he was in. There was no evidence whatsoever that the suspect presented any particular danger to the police. He had no criminal record and no reported record of violence toward anyone.

There was absolutely no reason for the police to use this style of raid in this case. Their warrant was based upon extremely flimsy (and possibly fraudulent) evidence, they made no effort to investigate or corroborate the charges before taking such a drastic and dangerous step as a dynamic raid.

In this country, citizens are to be presumed innocent until proven guilty by the preponderance of the evidence. Does breaking someone's door down in the night lend credence to the assumption of innocence? Especially on this weak of case.

Finally, in Virginia, in order to convict of First Degree Murder, which is what Frederick is charged with, the State has to demonstrate premeditation. They have to prove that Frederick knew that the home invaders were Police Officers and, not only shot with that knowledge and with the intent to kill a Police Officer, but had ALREADY PLANNED to do so prior to the raid and was "lying in wait" for the officers.

OK. That makes sense.

A man with no criminal record, who was NOT conducting a "large scale, complex grow operation", but was only a gardener, soda delivery person, and recreational pot smoker, was expecting the police to break his door down in the night, had pre-planned to murder one of them and was just waiting for the opportunity. Knew full well it was the police breaking down his door, waited for them in the dark, callously shot and killed the first one through the door...and then surrendered peacefully.

Frederick is a victim here just as much as Detective Shivers. They are both victims of the "war on some drugs" and the policies and procedures of an ever increasingly militarized police force. This crap has got to stop. The only way that will happen is with a large enough public outcry. The question is: can enough people tear themselves away from American Idol and Lost for long enough to take note and write a letter or make a phone call to their legislators? Or will they not be bothered by this until it is their door being broken down in the middle of the night?

Sites with more information on this case:

Captain of a Crew of One (My blog)

The Agitator(Search results for "Ryan Frederick", only article titles are shown. Click on the title to see the article)
 
Not sure which is more fail.... the shooter or the origional poster.
 
The OP would've done himself a grand favor by citing this information in the initial post. Having said that, I hope the truth of the matter makes itself known, and the guy gets a fair trial. I also confess that I think the "war on drugs" is and always has been a total facade.
 
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