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Registering a Race bike..

That Guy said:
The Kawi I picked up from you had it, But I could not get it in my name. I tried 4 times all with asking to talk to supervisors. each time I brought the bike with me so I could show them the permit on the frame. I was :cry:rant:cry:facepalm:kicknuts I ended up giving up on it. Never had a problem transporting it.
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Really? Man, that's messed up. I bought a bike that had one, and basically just had another one issued for it. I don't know if it's transferrable, then again, the dmv staffers aren't always very smart about their own rules it seems.

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Thank you Papi, today I got my transportation sticker!

If anyone else wants one, go to the Santa Teresa DMV office and speak to supervisor Tam Le. He spent an hour calling Sacramento and got me my sticker!
Cool guy.

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Thank you all for the replies and information on this subject. Time to get these race only bikes legal.
 
FYI. Just to make it clear (the first post is incorrect), you only pay PNO once. You do not pay it each and every year.

If you don't want to do that, you can save the money of a $25-$50 PNO and get the above transportation permit. Though you'll spend more time doing it.

Both are legal.
 
Antarius said:
FYI. Just to make it clear (the first post is incorrect), you only pay PNO once. You do not pay it each and every year.

If you don't want to do that, you can save the money of a $25-$50 PNO and get the above transportation permit. Though you'll spend more time doing it.

Both are legal.
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A PNO isn't a permit to allow you to tow your unregistered bike around. All it is a non operation permit, not a transportation permit
 
I'm not going to get into whether or not you need a transportation permit when your bike is in the bed of your truck, or on a trailer. It's pretty clear the intent of this thread is to help those that believe they do need one, to get one. That's fine.

I just wanted to clarify that a PNO does not need to be renewed. You will get a renewal in the mail, but if you read it closely it says if you intend to keep the vehicle PNO'd, you can discard the renewal request. The renewal is only sent in case you changed your mind and wanted to actually register it.
 
If the intent is to help others legally transport their registered bikes, then it needs to be clear that the PNO is insufficient. They need the transportation permit. Now that the Santa Teresa DMV office knows how to do this, it would take only minutes.

If you want to educate us that the PNO doesn't require a yearly renewal fee, then you're correct.
 
I don't think there's an agreement as to whether or not it's illegal to transport your PNO'd bike in the bed of a pickup.

Nonetheless, that's not my concern. If you all want to play it safe and buy some random permit that no one, including every cop on the planet has any idea about, go for it. All I was trying to do is keep people from paying for their PNO every year.

For what it's worth. Not a single friend of mine or myself has ever had issues while transporting PNO'd bikes. We have, however, had registration / PNO status / green or red stickers checked; and had I only had a "transportation permit" and no other type of registration / PNO, I can guarantee it would have extended the discussion with the officer as I tried to explain why I was so intent on saving $15 when I bought a transportation permit and didnt PNO it.

Just my $0.02.
 
Good for you. I got what i need. BARF, still hasn't changed over the years. I'm out of here
 
Lol.

No need to get upset. I'm not saying its a bad idea to get the permit. I'm just saying I'm not convinced its required when in a truck and was trying to clarify what PNO charges are.

Do what ya want, it ain't gonna hurt to have MORE paperwork. My personal take is that it's unnecessary, that's all.
 
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Antarius said:
I don't think there's an agreement as to whether or not it's illegal to transport your PNO'd bike in the bed of a pickup.

Nonetheless, that's not my concern. If you all want to play it safe and buy some random permit that no one, including every cop on the planet has any idea about, go for it. All I was trying to do is keep people from paying for their PNO every year.

For what it's worth. Not a single friend of mine or myself has ever had issues while transporting PNO'd bikes. We have, however, had registration / PNO status / green or red stickers checked; and had I only had a "transportation permit" and no other type of registration / PNO, I can guarantee it would have extended the discussion with the officer as I tried to explain why I was so intent on saving $15 when I bought a transportation permit and didnt PNO it.

Just my $0.02.
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young man, an ignorance of the law is no excuse!!! :rofl


if you want to cancel street reg but keep it "accessible" (no penalties when you come back later) you still have to file a PNO, even with a transport permit.
 
duh_ave said:
young man, an ignorance of the law is no excuse!!! :rofl if you want to cancel street reg but keep it "accessible" (no penalties when you come back later) you still have to file a PNO, even with a transport permit.
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Correctamundo. :thumbup

<--- Has PNO AND MTP. Has been "inspected" 2x in CA and NV. MTP said it all.
 
Thread resurrection for clarification. I am looking at an out of state track bike (with over 7500 miles, not that it matters), and want to make sure I don't get blackflagged by CA DMV.

From my understanding, an out of state track bike (no lights, mirrors, etc) should be eligible for a CA "Title only" and a Motorcycle Transportation Permit. Because it is a track bike, I can submit a certificate of nonoperation instead of filing for PNO to get the Title only. All that the DMV would require is that the VIN and engine number be visible. This would allow me to sell it with a CA Title down the road to another track rider that would be valid for transfer (presumably to another Title only title). This route would also avoid the problem of increased miles on the odometer for people doing the regular title and PNO approach. Is that correct?

Alternatively, I should be able to just bolt up lights and mirrors and get a regular title. However, I would then need to either registration or go PNO, which has an issue with an increased odometer reading when selling in the future even if operated only on the track. Correct?

I just want to make sure I do not make a critical error before dropping money on an out of state bike. Thanks!
 
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@Mechanikrazy
Hi Al, just checking up on this out-of-state race bike.

What did you end up doing? Title-transfer only? Registration? Non-op?

Also did you get transport sticker?
 
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