HappyHighwayman
It's all in the reflexes
I think they've demonstrated mandatory bicycle helmet laws decrease the amount of cyclists.
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Should bicycle helmets be mandatory in California?
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stangmx13
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no.
but... if u get hit by a car and suffer a traumatic brain injury, u cant sue for the brain injury even if you are not at fault.
but... if u get hit by a car and suffer a traumatic brain injury, u cant sue for the brain injury even if you are not at fault.
You are arguing for the sake of it.
Cruising on a motorcycle -35mph, more than fast enough to be deadly.
Walking the dog on a cycle on a deserted country road at 5 miles an hour is vastly different.
That's not wider range of use, but just difference in speed. By the way you can got 35 mph on road bike too. True it requires a mountain, but there are plenty of cyclists in the SC Mountains.
Maybe that is the end goal.
Flawed logic as it assumes bicycle helmets prevent brain injury. They might reduce it, but any force strong enough to result in traumatic brain injury will overwhelm the design of a bicycle helmet.
SFSV650
The Slowest Sprotbike™
You can get a TBI even while wearing a helmet. Being hit by a car, there isn't much you can do to improve your chances as a cyclist that has any more bearing than dumb luck.
Thats like asking all motorcyclists wear 1 piece roadracing leathers all the time, because some of us ride aggressive enough to justify it.
There is basically no instance in witch a DOT helmet is irrelevant while riding a motorcycle, because slow cruising means 35mph+
However majority of bicycle user are neither SF couriers nor performance cyclists. Seems gross overkill. Just my opinion. Feel free to disagree.
I am a helmet nazi. I wear a helmet on every ride. Period. I also remind/tease/troll other riders when they don't wear a helmet.
But even then, I am not in favor of mandatory bike helmets.
Where's the data? How many adults die from bicycle head injuries? There are no formal studies. Almost everyone rides without crashing. Most crashes do not hit your head.
Keep in mind there is plenty of motorcycle fatality data.
But then I think what is the purpose of a mandatory helmet law? To protect riders? No.
Enforce the 3 foot passing law. Do more DUI cyclist arrests.
When I hear someone say mandatory helmet law, it is right up with putting license plates on the back. It is an impractical trolling.
But even then, I am not in favor of mandatory bike helmets.
Where's the data? How many adults die from bicycle head injuries? There are no formal studies. Almost everyone rides without crashing. Most crashes do not hit your head.
Keep in mind there is plenty of motorcycle fatality data.
But then I think what is the purpose of a mandatory helmet law? To protect riders? No.
Enforce the 3 foot passing law. Do more DUI cyclist arrests.
When I hear someone say mandatory helmet law, it is right up with putting license plates on the back. It is an impractical trolling.
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You're expecting too much from BARF.
Why is it practical to require helmets and registration on motorcycles but not bicycles?
kelsodeez
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apparently
lately ive come to the conclusion that the only opinions that barf is good for are opinions on motogp racing. everything else discussed on here is done in an irrational manner and nothing is ever rooted in logic.
tzrider
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Let's outlaw all dangerous stuff. Starting with this:
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People shouldn't be allowed to do stuff like that, regardless of how life affirming it may be. You could die, or worse, become an invalid that I have to help pay for. Shoot, while we're at it, why are motorcycles still legal?
Or maybe we could let people's desire to stay alive run its natural course.
You could use the same rationale to ban motorcycles
kelsodeez
2wheels good 4wheels bad
actually the rationale i was using was the sentiment that people had about helmets and motorcycles before the california law and now everyone has that attitude of "it shouldnt be mandatory but id wear one anyways". no you fucking wouldnt! you'd be shamed into not wearing a "dork lid" but if you make it mandatory, the stigma lifts and everyone does it.
it just makes sense. if you're sharing the road with autos that are, for all intents and purposes, equipped with explosive pillows to protect the occupants in a crash, shouldnt you be required to have a little higher level of safety when operating a bicycle on public roads?
also, people keep thinking that the laws will just get out of hand and we will be living in this 1984-esque nanny state, but requiring cyclists to wear a helmet is just leveling the safety precautions for all inhabitants of the road
i wear a motorcycle helmet because i have to and because i want to. i wear my bicycle helmet all the time because i want to not because i have to, but some people lack foresight and need a kick in the ass to put a lid on. there's a reason why california has the most registered motorcycles and the lowest death rate of any other states and SPOILER ALERT! its not because we are awesome riders. its because of our laws
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apparently
lately ive come to the conclusion that the only opinions that barf is good for are opinions on motogp racing. everything else discussed on here is done in an irrational manner and nothing is ever rooted in logic.
And still. The best opinions on BARF are on restaurants and home improvement. Everything else is to be taken with a spoonful of salt.
Why isn't this thread in political?
So people are shamed into not wearing jackets, pants, gloves, and boots? Or is a helmet somehow different? By your logic, everyone would be wearing a yarmulke style helmet, rather than a full face.
tzrider
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Wait a minute. What makes you so different from other people?
Don't know if you were around before the moto helmet law went into effect in CA, but most riders I knew wore helmets anyway. The cruiser crowd tended not to, while sport riders generally wore them. There were exceptions on both sides of course.
Thats exactly my experience with motorcycle riders here in AZ.
If its not mandatory it becomes lame and for pussies.
And especially younger, new riders and cruiser riders are the most susceptible to that way of thinking
wazzuFreddo
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I'm all for wearing helmets on bicycles, but I don't think we need a law.
I really have no idea what you are talking about.
Sounds like a convoluted way of saying "because motorcycles go faster" to the question of why to require helmets for motorcycles and not bicycles.
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Sorry, Corb, just quoting it for awesomeness. Classic idjitz will be idjitz.
I think this is the first helmet-law state I live in, and am oh-so-glad it is and equally oh-so-glad BARF is a community that harps on no gear. While I always wore some form of helmet, it wasn't until moving here that I started to get serious about good gear.
It's the monkey see monkey do thing, which goes both ways. There, few care and few wear anything, and you know where that ends. Here, lots care and lots wear something, and we know plenty of stories of increasing the odds of survivor during a crash. Mine included.