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So I rode the BMW K1600GT and GTL...

iehawk

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Al
I was at the Street Vibrations (Reno, Nevada), working for the BMW's Demo Tent. For those who are not familiar with this event, it's an annual gathering for the cruisers crowd (Harleys, Victories, customs, etc.) - http://www.road-shows.com/street_vibrations.php

And among them, 10 K1600GTL and 6 K1600GT (more or less... plus 2 RT-P lead bikes). It was quite interesting and funny to see many of those cruiser riders stopped by and trying out the BMWs cruising flavors.

Demo rides ran from Thursday to Saturday. We got busy on Friday and Saturday... and I ended up playing sweep for the second group. This gave me 4-5 riding sessions with both bikes.

Initial impressions:

Both are heavy bikes to begin with. Slow-speed maneuvers take some getting used to. It's true what some reviews said, both seem to shred weight as you get on the throttle. The balance is phenomenal for a 'big' bike. Eventually I also learnt that it behaves well when ridden like how one would ride an RT. This is something I didn't feel as much when riding the K1300GT. I'm guessing the K1300GT's more lean forward position has something to do with this.

The engine is a gem. What else can I say? It pulls like a locomotive. It's so smooth throughout the RPM range just with an added buzz at the higher range. Clutch pull is light, gears are easy too engage. The throttle has a different feel than what we are used to, but it's so precise, so yes, it takes a bit of a learning curve and getting used to. But after that it's so predictable and light to operate. One thing I found later on... the gears prefer to shift around mid-range. It takes a little more effort to shift at the higher RPM, close to redline. Possibly something I had to get used to as well.

I did several low RPM tests and had the bike go as low as 30 MPH on 6th gear and did a roll on. No hiccups, it just went on and accelerated smoothly. By the way, 65 MPH on 6th gear is right just below 3000 RPM.

One thing that I had to get used to as well... listening to the engine sound. It sounds awesome from behind, but you can't quite hear it from the front seat. And with barely any vibrations, I had to pay attention to the RPM in the beginning.

Riding dynamic: ESA II works great with noticeable differences between each setting. Comfort is for cruising and eating miles on smooth freeways. Normal is for the rest. Sport, maybe if one takes it closer to the extreme... which I'm not skilled enough to do. But just like the previous ESA on the K1200/1300s... Sport raises the rear a bit. I was carving through the twisties in Normal.

One other thing that impresses me from the engine is how economical it is. Unlike some other sport-touring bikes that need an ECO mode to go frugal, the K1600GT/GTL would just do it as you go. A couple of the sweep rides I did, I reset the consumption and saw as high as 50.6 MPG. This included mixed main street traffic, freeways, twisties, a short stop and go, and occasional chasing the bikes and kept them in line (passed the speed limit a few times).

The balance feels a bit better than the K1300 GT, but I feel it's more because the position seems to be a bit more upright than the K1300 GT. It feels like if the K1300 GT's handlebar with an extra 5th 'more upright' setting. That makes it feel like you sit on an R1200 RT.
The Adaptive Headlight works even better than I thought.

It feels surreal at first. We are used to headlights that point ahead, subconsciously we refer to it as the front. Now suddenly, that bright pattern that is suppose to be at 12 o'clock, follows the road as it curve. It's quite an amazing thing. The one experience that caught my attention was going through an on-ramp and the bright spot just stayed on the road.

The GTL goes through the twisties like a smaller, sportier bike. It rails through them easy. There's that familiar linear feel, from the initial turn-in and the follow-through. The Duolever is confident inspiring as always.

I tried the different settings. I found that Normal damping is actually pretty good. The Sport setting is probably better felt on the GT. I did find that while carving through the corners, I ended up sitting more forward. That handlebar is just not designed for that, but it can be ridden hard and will keep up with the GT.

One thing I can emphasize is that the power delivery is never overwhelming. It is more of a linear delivery, more relaxed under 5000 RPM, with a more urgency as it approaches the 5000 RPM and builds up progressively going toward the redline. Although it never feels like one need to rev it to the redline. The bike is happy to shift around 7K and there's plenty pull to go from then on. Bringing it to the redline makes it a bit harder to shift.

A few times I found myself wishing for the Quick Shift.

The throttle engagement does need getting used to being a full ride-by-wire system. But it's such a precise system that it is predictable and getting used to it is not that difficult. Once you do, you're rewarding with the appropriate response whenever you're thinking it.
 

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A couple more photos from the 'Product Knowledge Field Training'.

We rode down to North Lake Tahoe and around toward the East side. From there we head East and North, back to Reno. Got enough time to learn about the bike in the twisties... not to mention how awesome the road condition there. :)
 

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hey hawk nice report! must be one hell of an awesome ride! i can't imagine what owning a vessel like that would feel like on the road?
especially riding 2 up to somewhere for a vacation! talk about an all year ride!
 
Great report, how much $$$ fer one of them gemz? :teeth
 
Thanks!

It was pretty amazing riding one of those for sure. The feel is different than any bikes I've ever ridden. There's a level of balance and precision I never felt before. Probably what a lot of people and magazines wrote as the sensation of the weight melting away as you soon as you start moving.

Note: on the ride around, I was on the GTL riding 2-up. It's nice to be able to set the preload accordingly. She was actually enjoying the ride and didn't realize I was going a bit more spirited at some sections. She said it felt comfortable throughout the ride. I didn't tell her that at some places, it even felt like she wasn't there. The bike handles the weight pretty well. :)

I think a fully loaded K1600 GT goes close to $25,000... and the GTL close to $26,300. Check on the site or the local dealers to be sure.
 
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I'm glad they fixed the handlebar reach - it's one of my main complaints about the GT - on extended rides, it results in noticeable wrist pain, especially on the throttle side.
 
I rode a GTL from Carmel Valley to SF. Motor was outstanding. Real cruise control and XM radio on a bike made me space out at times....

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i rode the GTL demo bike at San Jose BMW. i was blown away and will be buying a GT. Seems like several months wait is likely.
 
Chris, yup! The handlebar feels better with the slight more upright position. I think while the K1200/1300 GT are great bikes, at this level, I prefer not to lean as much (or at all). Can't believe I just said that. :)

That's probably the reason why I would consider the R1200 RT if I were in the market for a sport-touring bike.

I rode a GTL from Carmel Valley to SF. Motor was outstanding. Real cruise control and XM radio on a bike made me space out at times....

Sweet!

I noticed you rode one with the GPS. How did you like it?

I know the bike and the GPS are supposed to be more integrated, for example where you run low on gas, it would tell you the available gas stations nearby. Also that the GPS controls are transferred to the multi-controller on the left grip. How did those work for you?
 
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Ahem. I have seen one or two posts from you regarding your feelings on the Marquee before. Changing your mind? :laughing:twofinger
The cost per mile of Beemers is waaaaay too rich fer my blood; that said, a 6 duz sound sweet. Literally, imagine a GT with a full Remus on the gas! :teeth
 
Sweet!

I noticed you rode one with the GPS. How did you like it?

I know the bike and the GPS are supposed to be more integrated, for example where you run low on gas, it would tell you the available gas stations nearby. Also that the GPS controls are transferred to the multi-controller on the left grip. How did those work for you?

The GPS is just a Garmin, but it works with gloves on. Standard fare really. Didn't experience the gas thing and I did almost run out of gas, so I wonder if I missed something there.... :dunno

The iDrive thing or whatever it's called, works quite well at speed. Easy to use. Like the gas thing, I did not notice that the GPS worked off of that. I was mostly using it for the XM radio and volume and shit like that.
 
Good report man! Sounds like both models are essentially the same bike. Perhaps buying the GT for thousands less might be a better deal.
 
Cool! Thanks, Slydrite. Maybe it was a prototype note I read. I'll find out more about it. :)

Thanks, Busjohn. I got lucky enough to ride it in the twisties, so might as well share it. :)

The sound... being the 4th bike in the group, I was fortunate enough to get to hear them take off... from stops, traffic lights, and intersections. It sounds pretty impressive as is. There was a bit of burbling sound, a pop and throatier initially, then a rapid tighter mechanical one as it accelerates. Something I'd describe as a tighter sound than an inline-4 (having 2 more cylinders). One cool thing they did where the pipes are actually 3 to 1 to 3 on each side; there's no connecting pipe in the middle.

Passing 4K, approaching 5K, it doesn't sound like a touring bike anymore. And heading toward the redline, it screams more like a sportbike sound than anything. If you hear it and look in your mirror, you wouldn't think the sound comes out of the bike you see there.
 
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holy shit, adaptive headlight? Is this the first production bike to have this technology or am I just behind things?

Man BMWs are so ugly but this may have just sold me.
 
holy shit, adaptive headlight? Is this the first production bike to have this technology or am I just behind things?

Man BMWs are so ugly but this may have just sold me.

BMW fugliness is an acquired taste. I find them quite attractive now after years of calling them fugly :)

And yeah, you're behind the times. BMW is the first bike with adaptive headlight, but that news has been around for a while, and people waiting for buying.

I was hangin out at SJBMW and they said the first 7 customers picked it up, paid in cash, full...

But that makes sense... i was there monthsssssss ... MONNtthssss before it came out and there were guys already pre-ordering or trading in to get in line for it.


@HAWK: did you test ride the GT? i heard that the GT ergos are more sportier - (more lean, more leg bend?)

SJBMW has been wanting me to go in and demo their GTL. i know what they're trying to do! they did this to me before! I came in one day to do a service and the put me on a new RT as a loaner bike! omg did i want one badly after that.

another time @ service they put me on a GS as a loaner bike... :O OMG did i want one badly after that.

another time @ service they put me on a s1000RR as a loaner bike ... :O A LOANER BIKE!!! :O *FAINT*
 
@HAWK: did you test ride the GT? i heard that the GT ergos are more sportier - (more lean, more leg bend?)

Yea, I rode the GT before the event and plenty of times during the event. It is my preferred model of the two.

To me the GT has a more natural riding position and easiest to ride fast in the twisties. You sit with the handlebar more forward and pegs are more backwar... more like on the R1200 RT where the steering feels more neutral... easier to turn, to follow the curved line, pretty much a lower effort riding in my opinion. The best part of that is whenever you arrive at your destination, you're more likely to be less tired.

And I think that the K1600 GT is a good looking bike. :x
 
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More than one report complains about the seat, and I do not doubt it. My RT seat is a long-distance joke; fine the first tankful, seriously lacking in enough support to prevent assburn by the end of the first day, and making me wish I was riding something--anything else by the end of day three.

How is it BMW can produce such advanced, gratifying motorbikes priced above $20K, yet not ever seem to get the saddle right?
 
More than one report complains about the seat, and I do not doubt it. My RT seat is a long-distance joke; fine the first tankful, seriously lacking in enough support to prevent assburn by the end of the first day, and making me wish I was riding something--anything else by the end of day three.

How is it BMW can produce such advanced, gratifying motorbikes priced above $20K, yet not ever seem to get the saddle right?

well they gotta leave something for the aftermarket pros don't they?:twofinger
 
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