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SOLD - Ten year Build KZ 900 Modern brakes and suspension

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sell one of the quads instead? :dunno

Fantastic build, btw! :thumbup
 
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Wow...

Well first off even the posts are saying the bike is not worth 11K, they are all very polite and even uplifting.

First and favorite question: You could have painted it Kawasaki green. I love that one. I rebuilt/ restored an ELR in 1988-89. The bike was wonderful and repainted lime green. I bought the factory paint, and believe me it was not easy to come by. Almost every person who looked at the bike at Cafe's etc. said "Did you pick that color on purpose?". Of course those that understood liked it. So Lime green was out. I sold the ELR to a collector in Del Mar, sight unseen for 4500 back then.

Bike builders.. I don't want to offend any of them, but I am a machinist who spent five years as an apprentice Patternmaker, and hold a Journeyman card. The work these guys do is not what I would grade as A+ for the most part. I looked at a few at the SEMA show a few years ago, and I assure you the quality of the KZ is as good if not better, than any of those. My favorites are the OC choppers with the chrome yard ornaments welded on. However I would be willing to get a strange hair cut, and a really flat baseball cap that fits over my ears and strange sideburns if it helps to sell the bike. Nose ear ring is out of the question.
 
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Wow...

Well first off even the posts are saying the bike is not worth 11K, they are all very polite and even uplifting.

First and favorite question: You could have painted it Kawasaki green. I love that one. I rebuilt/ restored an ELR in 1988-89. The bike was wonderful and repainted lime green. I bought the factory paint, and believe me it was not easy to come by. Almost every person who looked at the bike at Cafe's etc. said "Did you pick that color on purpose?". Of course those that understood liked it. So Lime green was out. I sold the ELR to a collector in Del Mar, sight unseen for 4500 back then.

Bike builders.. I don't want to offend any of them, but I am a machinist who spent five years as an apprentice Patternmaker, and hold a Journeyman card. The work these guys do is not what I would grade as A+ for the most part. I looked at a few at the SEMA show a few years ago, and I assure you the quality of the KZ is as good if not better, than any of those. My favorites are the OC choppers with the chrome yard ornaments welded on. However I would be willing to get a strange hair cut, and a really flat baseball cap that fits over my ears and strange sideburns if it helps to sell the bike. Nose ear ring is out of the question.
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Love this post, man. :thumbup

I think that most of us think it's a really cool build. Not quite the direction I would have chosen, but that's all personal taste. I'm firmly in the camp that thinks you should sell some of your more generic vehicles and keep this unique thing. Ride it proudly and enjoy the hell out of it every time you see a motorcyclist looking at it, scratching his head, trying to figure out what the heck he's looking at. :thumbup
 
Sell the Quads... ahhh we photograph Wild Horses in Nevada, using the quads to get out into the desert.

Part it out? Oh boy. So I pay nearly 500 for the Dyna digital ignition for instance... ok there ...sell that for about 100 bucks.

The tank is brand new, try buying one of those.. it was 500 when I bought it. Sell 150?

Flatslides 800 new/400 selling. Yes-no. Every machine is worth more together than the sum of its parts.

Strip the powdercoated frame? sell ..."the dust?"

Brand new speedo and tach 400...sell for ??

I could cut all the gussets painstakingly tig welded into the frame.. I'd have a pile of junk metal. The welds are all filleted (they are smooth to the touch 1/8 radius) ... yeah look for that on the next "builder bike". you won't see it. They don't even fillet the yard ornament welds after they weld on all the junk.

Wiring harness 350.. I dunno might get 100 for that.

Ohlins shocks?? buy... 1200 sell 400?

I like hearing all this, I really find it centering my judgement. I believe the bike is worth what the price is, not sure there is anyone willing to pay it. What does that mean?

I'll give it another week, then I will ride the shit out of it..Parting it out?? That is funny if you have never built one, if you have not so funny.

All of your posts are helping many thanks to you all.
 
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Love this post, man. :thumbup

I think that most of us think it's a really cool build. Not quite the direction I would have chosen, but that's all personal taste. I'm firmly in the camp that thinks you should sell some of your more generic vehicles and keep this unique thing. Ride it proudly and enjoy the hell out of it every time you see a motorcyclist looking at it, scratching his head, trying to figure out what the heck he's looking at. :thumbup
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Many Thanks !!

Uplifting words, all
 
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Sell the Quads... ahhh we photograph Wild Horses in Nevada, using the quads to get out into the desert.

Part it out? Oh boy. So I pay nearly 500 for the Dyna digital ignition for instance... ok there ...sell that for about 100 bucks.

The tank is brand new, try buying one of those.. it was 500 when I bought it. Sell 150?

Flatslides 800 new/400 selling. Yes-no. Every machine is worth more together than the sum of its parts.

Strip the powdercoated frame? sell ..."the dust?"

Brand new speedo and tach 400...sell for ??

I could cut all the gussets painstakingly tig welded into the frame.. I'd have a pile of junk metal. The welds are all filleted (they are smooth to the touch 1/8 radius) ... yeah look for that on the next "builder bike". you won't see it. They don't even fillet the yard ornament welds after they weld on all the junk.

Wiring harness 350.. I dunno might get 100 for that.

Ohlins shocks?? buy... 1200 sell 400?

I like hearing all this, I really find it centering my judgement. I believe the bike is worth what the price is, not sure there is anyone willing to pay it. What does that mean?

I'll give it another week, then I will ride the shit out of it..Parting it out?? That is funny if you have never built one, if you have not so funny.

All of your posts are helping many thanks to you all.
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powder coating the frame aside, you think depreciation is a bitch. :laughing
 
One more week out there, then I'm keeping it.
 
Nice bike. Glws.
Since you asked for pricing feedback...
You are on point with the depreciation of the value of the individual parts when parting it out. Unfortunately those are the prices that are normally used to calculate the sum value of a build for sale, not the price they were when new.
And then subtract another 10-20% for the whole bike.

I know it sucks, I have lost my shirt on many builds that I went overboard on. I either ate it or parted out the easiest replaceable parts that got me the most $ for least work and didn't hurt the overall package too bad (custom shocks, forks and exhaust usually go first)

I would think $7500 could get that sold
 
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Nice bike. Glws.
Since you asked for pricing feedback...
You are on point with the depreciation of the value of the individual parts when parting it out. Unfortunately those are the prices that are normally used to calculate the sum value of a build for sale, not the price they were when new.
And then subtract another 10-20% for the whole bike.

I know it sucks, I have lost my shirt on many builds that I went overboard on. I either ate it or parted out the easiest replaceable parts that got me the most $ for least work and didn't hurt the overall package too bad (custom shocks, forks and exhaust usually go first)

I would think $7500 could get that sold
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I could not part it out, so it either sells or I keep it.

I like the way you are thinking. I agree. however there is a great deal of judgement of the price based on a few photo's. Take a look at the thread in KZ Rider, if you want to know more than "its pretty".

http://kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/274097-1975-kz-900-zrx-swingarm-89-gsxr-front-end
 
Ted, love the bike. Do you have any HP numbers and weight numbers?
Myke
 
Thank you.

Weight is 440 (225 front / 215 rear) with half tank fuel.

I have not dyno'd it yet, I'm thinking right around 100 hp. It has a 998 big bore stock cams, good ignition, and RS34 flat slides.

The dyno will come this summer, I was going to check jetting on the dyno, but it feels near perfect, so that idea dropped further down the priority list.
 
Well,

Thought I would put some more detail into this post. Especially for those who think you need to be Bryan Fuller to build a bike.

Notice the details. My PC crashed and ironically so did the KZ rider site.

I just have a few photos on the laptop from the build.
 

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I'll stop trying to sell Sunday afternoon.
 

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So gorgeous. I am not in the market for such a thing, but I do love looking at the bike porn.
 
A really amazing effort. Great skills no doubt, you da man Ted!
 
I think the bike is fucking awesome, would love to own it, and would just as soon pay $11k for this as anything from Deus. The idea that a brand name builder's work is somehow more valuable than one person's labor of love, regardless of the quality of the work, makes me a little sad. If anything, this is more valuable to me... there are hundreds of Deus's floating around, and they're a company that built their success on figuring out cost effective ways to make cheap bikes look cool and unique (which is a pretty awesome space. they made customs accessible) - not building the best possible example of a resto-mod. This is more like the work of AC Sanctuary, whose bikes go for $50k-$100k.

Nice work and best of luck with the sale. Let the guys at Bike EXIF know it's for sale and I bet one of their readers will snatch it up at that price.
 
that might well be the purdiest bike i ever saw a photo of.

wow.

just wow.
 
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