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Spring Trip Planning - Input Appreciated! - Turned Trip Report

Cornfish

Dork
Joined
Aug 25, 2015
Location
Central Oregon
Moto(s)
2024 KTM 890 SMT - 2016 KTM 250 XC-F
Name
Reed
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AMA #3288739
It is approaching that time of year when I take off on a multi-day trip down the coast for a Bay Area Riding Refresher. Here is a picture from Shelter Cove several years ago. As much as I crave some Santa Cruz Mountains fun, I might bias my trip heavily towards the north this time. It will depend on the weather, Airbnb bookings, and how the wild hair is situated.
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I used to haul my Hypermotard in my converted trailer, but driving the truck and trailer got old. There were some advantages to having a mobile home base, but it is less expensive and more fun to ride my 890SMT straight from home. This year, I am using Mosko soft luggage instead of the KTM hard cases. I am excited to give the Mosko setup a try. The hard cases are kind of awkward and completely kill any chances of lane splitting. Leaving El Granada last year and riding up 19th Street restricted to my lane was a drag!
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I have the 80L and 40L Mosko Luggage, along with the Nomad ADV stand-off plates. This seems to be a highly regarded, well-thought-out system. The 80L setup, along with the additional storage pods which can be added or removed as needed is likely serious overkill for this trip. The bulky items I need are an extra pair of shoes, a quart of oil, a tire pump (compact, folding, analouge), tool roll, and my laptop. Toiletries and street clothes are fairly minimal, and consist of my kevlar lined Tobacco Motorwear jeans, the Tobacco California Riding Shirt with D30 armor, and my Indie Ridge Boots. Other than a couple of T-Shirts and a pair of shorts, the casual riding gear doubles as my entire wardrobe when I am not in my daily A*s riding gear. It is a fairly compact setup, but anyone who has toured knows it all adds up quickly! I haven't decided whether to use my Kriega bags for the tail luggage or to just use the Mosko setup. I'll figure that out based on the gear I am bringing, and how it all goes together when I am gearing up the bike. I'm also considering one of the electric new-fangled tire pumps, but the comfort of knowing an analouge foot pump will always get the job done is hard to let go of, especially if I am forced to use a tire plug.
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To start, I will go south from my place just outside Sunriver on Hwy 97 (horribly boring) to Klamath Falls, then west on 66 through Keno and into Ashland. The picture above is at Mt. Ashland, and is well worth the detour up and down the mountain before I put Ashland in the rearview mirror. I've ridden up 66 out of Ashland, and it is a fantastic ride by any measure, and I am looking forward to that section. From Ashland I will ride 96, since last time I took Hwy 3 out of Weaverville. I am leaning towards Hwy 3 east to Hayfork, and out Hwy 36 to the coast. Hwy 299 was fun, but it has been a few years since I've ridden 36, and cutting out as much of Hwy 101 as possible will be good since it too easily encourages triple-digit cruising, and I don't need another performance award. Last year I took Branscomb Road up from Hwy 1, which was a great route, but that bypasses the great section coming down to the coast from Leggett. I haven't figured out stopping points yet, but Ashland might be a good first night, followed by a big day out to somewhere near Arcata, with the next night near Mendocino. From there I haven't figured anything out, and it depends on weather and how much time I have. If I can only squeeze in a couple more days, I will probably try some sort of a loop that includes Skaggs Road, but I am anxious to get back on Hwy 1 into Big Sur. I could easily make Big Sur and back if I make more direct routes, but what is the fun in that? I typically get ~3,500 miles from a set of the Michellin Power GP2's I am running, and that feels like a good number to stay under for a trip like this, with each day between 300-400 miles.
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One from the coast to tie in the theme!
IMG_0770.jpgI am open to any route suggestions in Northern California from Mendocino onward. I have ridden a good portion of the options available there, but I have a tendency to bite off more than I can chew, with a trip up Berryessa last spring a perfect example of that. I've learned that there is an expanse of terrain in between Hwy 1 and 101 that looks doable in theory, but in practice become huge days with limited fuel stop options. The SMT can comfortably go 175 to nearly 200 miles on a tank, so fuel isn't really a problem, but certainly a consideration.
 
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Allow me to be your huckleberry.

The section of 3 from 299 to 36 is god’s gift to motorcyclists. It is well paved, rhythmic and flowing, and the drivers pull over. :love

What do you want from your Mendocino and south route? Goaty goodness? Are you gonna ride alderpoint or kettenpom to Mina?

And yes, 97 is soul crushingly boring but gorgeous scenery in many places.
 
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New bags look like the way to go. Bike looks perty and perty awesome :thumbup
The only other upgrade I can think of is a barf license plate frame. (Free to a good home Reed).

In my mind it is hard to beat 1 from Leggitt all the way to the City. Lots of cool small towns can be had for a night I am sure.

Also for me.. getting to Big Sur is nice, but beyond is where it gets great!!
 
Allow me to be your huckleberry.

The section of 3 from 299 to 36 is god’s gift to motorcyclists. It is well paved, rhythmic and flowing, and the drivers pull over. :love

What do you want from your Mendocino and south route? Goaty goodness? Are you gonna ride alderpoint or kettenpom to Mina?

And yes, 97 is soul crushingly boring but gorgeous energy in many places.
Thanks! Yes, I have ridden Hwy 3 north and south between 299 and 36. Candidly, it was my favorite part of that day, and outshined all of 36 in my opinion. I know that is a controversial statement in some parts, and I have stirred up some emotions in other forums when I mentioned not being all that impressed overall with 36. But I digress.

I am not aware of a route from Alderpoint to Mina, but I would love to avoid 101 coming into Leggett. Goaty is fine, and actually prefferred. I am also fine on dirt and gravel, but prefer asphalt over an extended time on dirt.

Mendocino and South I prefer goaty. But, when the weather cooperates, I am pretty damn happy on Hwy 1. And last year I had a fairly epic ride up the Panoramic Highway from the North that I still think about. But I am not sure I want to go all the way into Marin. If I do, I will end up staying somewhere around Half Moon Bay so I can at least get in a Tunitas, Kings Mountain, Page Mill, Alpine, etc. kind of day. It feels like a requirement if I am in the area.
 
Thanks! Yes, I have ridden Hwy 3 north and south between 299 and 36. Candidly, it was my favorite part of that day, and outshined all of 36 in my opinion. I know that is a controversial statement in some parts, and I have stirred up some emotions in other forums when I mentioned not being all that impressed overall with 36. But I digress.

I am not aware of a route from Alderpoint to Mina, but I would love to avoid 101 coming into Leggett. Goaty is fine, and actually prefferred. I am also fine on dirt and gravel, but prefer asphalt over an extended time on dirt.

Mendocino and South I prefer goaty. But, when the weather cooperates, I am pretty damn happy on Hwy 1. And last year I had a fairly epic ride up the Panoramic Highway from the North that I still think about. But I am not sure I want to go all the way into Marin. If I do, I will end up staying somewhere around Half Moon Bay so I can at least get in a Tunitas, Kings Mountain, Page Mill, Alpine, etc. kind of day. It feels like a requirement if I am in the area.
I will hard agree that section of 3 is better than 36 and I will die on that hill.

Let me get to a laptop and present you with some options. :love
 
New bags look like the way to go. Bike looks perty and perty awesome :thumbup
The only other upgrade I can think of is a barf license plate frame. (Free to a good home Reed).

In my mind it is hard to beat 1 from Leggitt all the way to the City. Lots of cool small towns can be had for a night I am sure.

Also for me.. getting to Big Sur is nice, but beyond is where it gets great!!
I have been as far South as Santa Barbara on my coast touring, and ripped around from San Simeon a bunch. And of course travelled back-and-forth over Nacimiento/Feguson many times. As much as I would like to hit that, logistically it becomes an issue unless I blow off the northern stuff I am interested in exporing more this year. Or, I just take off a month from work, and schedule a day to put new tires on and change oil! Haha.

Budman, I would be honored to rock a BARF license plate frame!IMG_0793.jpg
 
I have been as far South as Santa Barbara on my coast touring, and ripped around from San Simeon a bunch. And of course travelled back-and-forth over Nacimiento/Feguson many times. As much as I would like to hit that, logistically it becomes an issue unless I blow off the northern stuff I am interested in exploring more this year. Or, I just take off a month from work, and schedule a day to put new tires on and change oil! Haha.
I hear ya. I am good to get to Cayucos as far as the twisty fun goes.

Nice pic BTW!! :thumbup
Budman, I would be honored to rock a BARF license plate frame!View attachment 591183
In coming PM.
 
How many days do you wanna play up north? I could keep you busy for days.
 
I'm hoping to make the total trip seven to ten days. Last year my plan was ten days, but incoming weather tightened that up to seven.
 
70 mile ride on Mattole road. From the south get on at the north end of the Avenue of the Giants. From the north start in Ferndale and exit on to the 101 by the top of the Avenue of the Giants. Mattole is a small windy road taking you through large redwoods. Then through Honeydew and Petrolia on the south side, before heading to the lost coast and a black sand beach. If camping there is a BLM campground at the mouth of the Mattole river. Ferndale if full of old Victorian home with some great restaurants and bakeries.

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70 mile ride on Mattole road. From the south get on at the north end of the Avenue of the Giants. From the north start in Ferndale and exit on to the 101 by the top of the Avenue of the Giants. Mattole is a small windy road taking you through large redwoods. Then through Honeydew and Petrolia on the south side, before heading to the lost coast and a black sand beach. If camping there is a BLM campground at the mouth of the Mattole river. Ferndale if full of old Victorian home with some great restaurants and bakeries.

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I’ve been through Ferndale, and scoped out this road on maps, but I’ve never ridden it. Looks like a great way to cut out a big chunk of 101, with access near the west end of 36. Thanks!
 
Cave Jct, OR on Greyback Rd to Happy Camp. 96 to 3 and south from there.
One I've been meaning to do for ages, but never got around to.
It's always been slightly outside other stuff I want to get to.
 
Cave Jct, OR on Greyback Rd to Happy Camp. 96 to 3 and south from there.
One I've been meaning to do for ages, but never got around to.
It's always been slightly outside other stuff I want to get to.
I just checked and it’s already open. That road is a hoot. We can’t have him skipping sawyers bar though. :x
 
For referrence, last year I came home going east on 299, then north on 3, staying near Trinity Lake. The last day I took Scott River Road up to 96 and I-5 before taking 66 up to 97.

Here is my proposed route so far, incorporating the sugestions in this thread:

Day One:
Hwy 97 to Hwy 66 to Ashland.

Day Two: I-5 to Hwy 96 to Scott River Road, Hwy 3 to Etna and Sawyers Bar, and then Salmon River Road back to 96, then east on 299 to Weaverville. Ashland to Weaverville following that route feels like it would be a big day, and Trinity Village might be a better stopping point.

My house to Ashalnd is a light day, but there aren't many lodging options a reasonable distance past Ashland heading towards Sawyer Bar, and a smaller first day to kick off my riding season feels like a smart choice. I've ridden enough over the years to have no issues diving into big days, but there is comfort in not feeling pressure to hit the road early on day one, giving me time to make sure my gear and bike are dialed for the trip.

Day Three: Trinity Village or Weaverville, Hwy 3, to 36 to Ferndale and Mattole Road to Leggett, Hwy 1, and on to Mendocino. Or, I could take Hwy 101 from the south end of Mattole Road to Redway and stop in Shelter Cove for the night. That would be another big day in fairly remote areas, but there should be plenty of fuel available with my bikes range to ride all of that without any stress. Trying to get all the way to Mendocino on Day Three with these routes feels pretty big, but managable.

When big days, stretch out too far, I end up showing up to my destination at dark or later. I learned last year that a decent dinner becomes a problem in these smaller communities past 8:00. I'd like to avoid gas-pump-side dinners of Snickers and Doritos, followed by checking into an Airbnb to sleep and leaving the next day without any downtime.

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This is where the decisions come in; do I peel off to the east and explore something in the remote sections between the coast and I-5 or head to the Santa Cruz Mountains? Any advice about routes in this area for two or three days would be appreciated!

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Day Four: Shelter Cove, or Mendocino, ripping down Hwy 1, up the Panoramic Highway, and down to El Granada or Half Moon Bay. In an earlier post I mistakenly referrenced Moss Landing, when I meant Moss Beach.

Day Five: canvassing the Santa Cruz Mountains.

Day Six: Mt. Hamilton/Mines Road adventure.

Day Seven, from Half Moon Bay, I would be inclined to efficiently make my way back to hwy 1 in Marin and just rip the coast. That ride doesn't hurt my feelings at all, and I could take a break from navigating (even though my Garmin Zumo makes that fairly effortless) and just ride. If I kept my pace and didn't screw around, I could get to the north end of Hwy 1 on the seventh day. Going from a peaceful setting in Half Moon Bay and diving into San Francisco traffic and Napa Valley traffic was a serious vibe-killer.

Day Eight would likely be finishing Hwy 1 to 101, and then taking Mattole Road to Ferndale, heading east on 299 to 96, then Greyback Road to Cave Junction, with plans to stay in Ashland.

Day Nine would be a light day heading home from Ashland, with a rip up Hwy 66 before I put on the cruise control and try not to get bored heading north on Hwy 97 to home. Being able to take a leisurley morning in Ashland, and arriving home well before dark would be great. (Note to self, don't blow off gas stations on Hwy 97 and push your bike two miles to a gas station!)

So far, this seems to incorporate the suggestions everyone has made, and puts my trip at nine days, and probably 2,500+ miles. I would block out ten days for the trip to allow for a rest day if needed. I would also be keeping a close eye on weather, ready to adjust as needed to avoid riding in rain. I don't mind a sprinkle here and there, but I don't want to spend a day or more travelling in a downpour.

I am open to any route tweaks!
 
I am sure you know the back road to Ashland from Cave Junction ( even though it is north of there) . Wilderville to Fish Hatchery road to 238. That will take you through Jacksonville and you come out on 99 south of Medford. :)
 
Oh, and if you are in Cave Junction at a meal time and you like your meat, i highly recommend Taylor Meats. It is just across the street from Dairy Queen. ;)
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I am sure you know the back road to Ashland from Cave Junction ( even though it is north of there) . Wilderville to Fish Hatchery road to 238. That will take you through Jacksonville and you come out on 99 south of Medford. :)
You can actually make that route more betterer with some upper applegate to sterling creek. :teeth
 
I am sure you know the back road to Ashland from Cave Junction ( even though it is north of there) . Wilderville to Fish Hatchery road to 238. That will take you through Jacksonville and you come out on 99 south of Medford. :)
I am not familiar with that route! I should be able to figure it out with what you have already given me. Is it relatively straightforward?
 
I am not familiar with that route! I should be able to figure it out with what you have already given me. Is it relatively straightforward?
I’ll get you that route. Sounds like you might need to spend your first evening at casa de cootz.
 
I finally got caught up with work enough that I can take off on my trip. I did make a mistake on my lodging, and need an extra day in El Granada, but I am pretty sure the AirBnB I booked will be able to accomodate an extra night. I meant to only have one "Riders Choice" day, but considering all the back-to-back ride days, I might take one of those to go for a walk on the beach and take it easy. Or, I might use one of those days to get new tires installed depending on how they are looking!

Here is the final route:

Day 1: Hwy 97 to Klamath Falls, Hwy 66 to Ashland, I-5 to CA Hwy 96, Scott Bar, Hwy 3 to Weaverville.

Day 2: Weaverville to Hwy 3 to West Hwy 36 to Ferndale, Mattole Road to Weott, 101 S to Redway, Briceland Thorne to Shelter Cove.

Day 3: Shelter Cove to 101 S to Leggett, Hwy 1 to Panoramic Drive, Hwy 1 to El Grenada

Day 4: El Grenada to Tunitas Creek, Kings Mountain, Portolla Valley, Page Mill, Alpine, Pescadero Creek, Hwy 1 S, Bonny Doon, Pine Flat, Empire Grade, Jamison Creek, Hwy 236, S 35, Bear Creek, to Brookdale.

Day 5: Brookdale to Hwy 1 S, Carmel Valley, Hwy 101 S, Jolon Road, Nacimiento-Ferguson, Hwy 1 S to Cambria.

Day 6: Cambria to Hwy 1 N to El Grenada.

Day 7: El Grenada to San Gregorio, Hwy 84 to 35 S, Page Mill to Hwy 280 S, Hwy 85 to Hwy 237, Hwy 880 S, Hwy 101 S to Alum Rock, Mt Hamilton, Mines Road, Livermore, Pleasanton, Hwy 680, Hwy 880, Hwy 84 to Woodside Road W, Tunitas Creek, to Hwy 1 N to El Grenada.

Day 8: Riders Choice.

Day 9: Riders Choice.

Day 10: El Granada, Hwy 1 N to Little River.

Day 11: Little River to Leggett, Hwy 101 to Mattole Road, Ferndale, Hwy 101 N to Trinidad.

Day 12: Trinidad to Hwy 299 E, Hwy 96 to Forks of Salmon, Sawyers Bar, Hwy 3, Scott River, Hwy 96, I-5 N to Ashland.

Day 13: Ashland to Hwy 66 E, Hwy 97 N, Home.
 
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