Mike95060
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well said magyarbetyar
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STL Shockers & STL Streetfighterz
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i understand i am not offended. just talking. yeah joe stunter and joe speeder both suck 
stunting as a sport is going private, going competition, and going drag strip. all highway videos are boring compared to new stunt videos. people know that. now its 12s and combos not 20 minute standups. all i was stating was that when we, the guys i ride with, go on the highway it is very controlled because its rare we do it.
yeah i like all stunters highway or not but those cats that never retreat from the highways can be detrimental and prolly arent into the sport for all the right reasons. a million opinions yada yada yada.
stunting as a sport is going private, going competition, and going drag strip. all highway videos are boring compared to new stunt videos. people know that. now its 12s and combos not 20 minute standups. all i was stating was that when we, the guys i ride with, go on the highway it is very controlled because its rare we do it.
yeah i like all stunters highway or not but those cats that never retreat from the highways can be detrimental and prolly arent into the sport for all the right reasons. a million opinions yada yada yada.
drizz
it's monkey madness!
Mike95060 said:
I dunno what's what anymore. When you guys refer to the sport, what sport do you mean? I categorize drag-racing, stock-car racing, and indy car racing as three different sports. I do the same with stunt-riding, road riding, racing, etc. I don't know why all the sudden talk about government mandates and legislations and shit, butt's full of holes. I'm no lawyer, but I know enough to know there's no way that our good 'ol government would piss away $5 billion to stop Joe Schmoe from doing endos at a stoplight or riding on a road they're not aloud to ride on. I could name tons of reasons this could never ever happen with the statistics the way they are now, but it's not the point.
If you're worried about some stunters making people who ride really fast on two wheels look bad, then worry no more. Especially where we live, lots of cagers hate anyone who lane-splits, doesn't signal before changing lanes, or gets to park closer than the handicap spots. There's gonna be some asshole out there that says no motorcycles should ride here or there no matter what anyone's doing.
If anything, progress for the sport of stunting will be a forward motion, not a backward one because of the growing interest. If anything at all "bad" were to come out of it, it'd be making the license test harder or something which most likeley wouldn't matter to you or I.
If you wanna flame an individual because of the way he/she rides, go talk to them to their face and tell them "You're not safe" like Goose to Maverick in Top Gun or some shit. An argument of a few stunters ruining a sport is like the first street skaters that said half-pipe was lame or something. Don't stress, progress.
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stillart said:i understand i am not offended. just talking. yeah joe stunter and joe speeder both suck
stunting as a sport is going private, going competition, and going drag strip. all highway videos are boring compared to new stunt videos. people know that. now its 12s and combos not 20 minute standups. all i was stating was that when we, the guys i ride with, go on the highway it is very controlled because its rare we do it.
yeah i like all stunters highway or not but those cats that never retreat from the highways can be detrimental and prolly arent into the sport for all the right reasons. a million opinions yada yada yada.
It has been toooooooo long since I have went out w/ Port and BTB. Might have to join ya'll one of these days. However I will only be a spectator, I'm stunt illiterate 
You have no idea how much funding in Alameda County and the city of Oakland is going into shutting down sideshows. They actually have multi agency task forces for just this. They do nothing but respond to sideshow calls. So if things continue the way they are, it won't be long before the state steps in and after that Uncle Sam.
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magyarbetyar
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sniff sniff I can feel the love.
drizz
it's monkey madness!
What's the odds on getting George W. to start stunting? heh.
Mike95060
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ok now seems like everyone has calmed down a bit and thats the way I prefer to post. drizz, I know sport bikes are here to stay but imagine this bleak scenario.
100 crank shaft hp limit.
ABS or linked breaks standard and required for all bikes.
Top speed limited to 100 mph (governors)
"horsepower tax" hey they laready have a gas guzzeler tax don't be too surprised if performence gets taxed next. The govenment still would get its tax money from the sales of bikes, we would still buy them even if they were watered down, what choice would we have?
Any of the above could happen. As motorcylists we are in the minority and have the most to loose.
As far as the sport designation goes, to me anything that takes skill and can be competative is a sport. Stunting counts too. I too think most stunting is going to go private and that might be a good thing for stunters. It isn't that much differnet than trials so why shouldnet you guys be able to make a living off it? It would draw crowds to races and that helps all motorcyclists.
100 crank shaft hp limit.
ABS or linked breaks standard and required for all bikes.
Top speed limited to 100 mph (governors)
"horsepower tax" hey they laready have a gas guzzeler tax don't be too surprised if performence gets taxed next. The govenment still would get its tax money from the sales of bikes, we would still buy them even if they were watered down, what choice would we have?
Any of the above could happen. As motorcylists we are in the minority and have the most to loose.
As far as the sport designation goes, to me anything that takes skill and can be competative is a sport. Stunting counts too. I too think most stunting is going to go private and that might be a good thing for stunters. It isn't that much differnet than trials so why shouldnet you guys be able to make a living off it? It would draw crowds to races and that helps all motorcyclists.
drizz
it's monkey madness!
*shudder*
levitation
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whats the difference between stunting on the highway and going down with cars around you and hitting one..
as opposed to trying to ride hard in the twisities, lowsiding/going wide/etc and running into a car and hurting them.
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..id also be more inclined to believe that we got more people wadding bikes trying to use them for their "intended" purpose, than guys stunning and crashing...
how often do we see or hear guys who ate it stunning in traffic as opposed to how many guys who wreck on their local twisty road sending a bike into oncoming car and so on...?
as opposed to trying to ride hard in the twisities, lowsiding/going wide/etc and running into a car and hurting them.
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..id also be more inclined to believe that we got more people wadding bikes trying to use them for their "intended" purpose, than guys stunning and crashing...
how often do we see or hear guys who ate it stunning in traffic as opposed to how many guys who wreck on their local twisty road sending a bike into oncoming car and so on...?
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They already have similar things for cars, at least in terms of the speed governers. If the above regs do become reality, I think you'll just see the stunters become proficent mechanics (with tools besides zip-ties and spray paintMike95060 said:
). There are ways around those regs (higher comp pistons, head work to improve airflow, aftermarket brake packages, hacked ECUs, etc).Can't stop the stuntin'.....NoooooOhhhhh....
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you guys remember evil kenivel (sp) from the seventies??? he was the sheezie... stunting is cool. i certainly don't have the cajones to do some/any of the stuff that the stunna's are capable of doing. i have nothing but awe and admiration for those riders who are able to control their motorcycles -- either stunnin' or in the twisties. but there's a line that i draw when it comes to doing a triple-digit lane-splitting wheelie in heavy freeway traffic and have it captured on video. that's psychotic? or is that self-destructive sociopathic ("i know exactly what i'm doing and i'm in total control") behavior??? 
it's all cool as long as you're in some sort of denial about any of the implications.
i think as motorcyclists we forget we are for the most part, for the rest of the general public, part of the counter-culture. most people (non-riders) associate bikers with danger. i think this is more so when they see the stunters doin' their thing. i think it's highly unlikely that the politicians will ever crack down on stunters or the twisty demons with legislation. if they do, it's time to vote them out of office since they should be focused on more important issues...(blah, blah, blah...)
hey BTB -- teach me how to wheelie!!!
i certainly don't have the cajones to do some/any of the stuff that the stunna's are capable of doing. i have nothing but awe and admiration for those riders who are able to control their motorcycles -- either stunnin' or in the twisties. but there's a line that i draw when it comes to doing a triple-digit lane-splitting wheelie in heavy freeway traffic and have it captured on video. that's psychotic? or is that self-destructive sociopathic ("i know exactly what i'm doing and i'm in total control") behavior??? it's all cool as long as you're in some sort of denial about any of the implications.i think as motorcyclists we forget we are for the most part, for the rest of the general public, part of the counter-culture. most people (non-riders) associate bikers with danger. i think this is more so when they see the stunters doin' their thing. i think it's highly unlikely that the politicians will ever crack down on stunters or the twisty demons with legislation. if they do, it's time to vote them out of office since they should be focused on more important issues...(blah, blah, blah...)
hey BTB -- teach me how to wheelie!!!
OH By the Way, Mike?? Aren't these your words--
"I am sorta in the middel of a personal crisis right now. I just got back from a 30 mile local loop in the santa cruz mountain area. On said ride I have doubled the speed limit for all but a total of 5 miles. I made about 6, and thats a conservative estemate, double yellow passes. I am still thinking about 2 of those passes right now because they were increadibly dangerous and I am really lucky no one was comig the other way. Riding is the great love of my life right now. I think about it when i wake up and its what I look forward too after work. When I am on my bike I tend to have a take no prisoners attitude. I want a clear road ahead of me and I want it now damn it."
God I hate hypocrites.
If you do stupid shit, NO WAY can you tell someone else they're "RETARTED" (your word, your spelling)
WORD to Levitation. I've asked that question numerous times here on BARF.
"I am sorta in the middel of a personal crisis right now. I just got back from a 30 mile local loop in the santa cruz mountain area. On said ride I have doubled the speed limit for all but a total of 5 miles. I made about 6, and thats a conservative estemate, double yellow passes. I am still thinking about 2 of those passes right now because they were increadibly dangerous and I am really lucky no one was comig the other way. Riding is the great love of my life right now. I think about it when i wake up and its what I look forward too after work. When I am on my bike I tend to have a take no prisoners attitude. I want a clear road ahead of me and I want it now damn it."
God I hate hypocrites.
If you do stupid shit, NO WAY can you tell someone else they're "RETARTED" (your word, your spelling)
WORD to Levitation. I've asked that question numerous times here on BARF.
drizz
it's monkey madness!
Well, the ncie thing about this forum is that when people who are anti-stunt say something, it's not really flaming. It's a conversation. I've been flamed. There's a big difference. Anyways, I have more important things to post. Peace.
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I don't think anyone has gone to far in this thread, although I really don't think we need to hear the "There is a right place" anymore. If I had a nickel for everytime I've heard that on this board I could buy a new track bike 
. Let's keep that shit in the general forum. Thank You
. Let's keep that shit in the general forum. Thank You
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levitation said:whats the difference between stunting on the highway and going down with cars around you and hitting one..
as opposed to trying to ride hard in the twisities, lowsiding/going wide/etc and running into a car and hurting them.
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..id also be more inclined to believe that we got more people wadding bikes trying to use them for their "intended" purpose, than guys stunning and crashing...
how often do we see or hear guys who ate it stunning in traffic as opposed to how many guys who wreck on their local twisty road sending a bike into oncoming car and so on...?
Well said...twistie riders have a place to go to do there shit (trackdays) yet there dying every weekend up highway 9 and 84. Thats doing more damage then our wheelies on the freeway...you know how scared all those people are trying to go have a picnic or something up on 4 corners and they have watch out for a million bikes passing them on blind corners and such...Its all motorcycle riders that will give this sport a bad name...even the guy who splits lanes at safe speed occasionally. If uncle Sam wants to control us hes gonna control us theres nothing we can do but try to be as safe as possible when in public whether were riding twisties or stunting on freeway or splitting traffic. We are all involved in this movement all the same.
Sorry for the rant...its just im sick of people trying to pick out stunters as the cause for sportbikers having a bad name...
Like its been said...give us stunt days like they have track days once a month and youll never see me on the freeway ever again
. But then again its not gonna keep JO SCHMO off the freeway...and JO SCHMO out of the twisties and list can go on. Mad respect to everyone here. This wasnt targeted to no one but the close minding people that think stunting is whats ruining the sport as a whole
. /Rant mode off
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