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Stupid Oakland parking ticket
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I put this request in the online ticket contest form
y'all are slipping, BARF.
You spelled Oaklamd wrong.
Got a letter in the mail (that was fast!) from City of Oaklamd that they meant 2214 Broadway (and wrote 2214 Franklin). With a picture of this sign.
The curb is not colored so that can't be a sign. The bike lane is number 3 lane so parked cars can't be blocking bike lane. The location is ~150 ft from an intersection with signals so that can't be it either.
No idea how that can be a violation of the cryptic "Obedience to Sign".
The curb is not colored so that can't be a sign. The bike lane is number 3 lane so parked cars can't be blocking bike lane. The location is ~150 ft from an intersection with signals so that can't be it either.
No idea how that can be a violation of the cryptic "Obedience to Sign".
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That is so fucked up and so wrong.
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I heard that in Oakland, the partking enforcement isn't part of the police department, it's a seperate entity. I wonder if their leader is getting greedy and setting quota's.
So you were parked on Broadway between 22nd and Grand?
Yeah, that's a right turn lane. I don't know that you need to paint the curb when it's a travel lane. There is a 'no stopping' sign mounted underneath the "Right Lane Must Turn Right" sign about 50' further down the curb than the end of the photo above.
The bike lanes on Broadway start around Webster and go up to hwy 24. it's just ride with the cars between the waterfront and webster. Sometimes there's a sharrow/route sign like you see in that photo.
(Though I have no idea how 'part time travel/part time parking' lanes are meant to be interpreted easily by people, but this is clearly just a travel lane.)
And I wouldn't be surprised if Oakland has its own Parking department. Most cities do. Sure the police *can* write tickets, but they have way more important things to do. Obvs in more rural areas there's no need for a whole 'parking' department.
And sure the enforcement officers may have incentives, I don't know if it's a sense of righteousness or a number of tickets written
Yeah, that's a right turn lane. I don't know that you need to paint the curb when it's a travel lane. There is a 'no stopping' sign mounted underneath the "Right Lane Must Turn Right" sign about 50' further down the curb than the end of the photo above.
The bike lanes on Broadway start around Webster and go up to hwy 24. it's just ride with the cars between the waterfront and webster. Sometimes there's a sharrow/route sign like you see in that photo.
(Though I have no idea how 'part time travel/part time parking' lanes are meant to be interpreted easily by people, but this is clearly just a travel lane.)
And I wouldn't be surprised if Oakland has its own Parking department. Most cities do. Sure the police *can* write tickets, but they have way more important things to do. Obvs in more rural areas there's no need for a whole 'parking' department.
And sure the enforcement officers may have incentives, I don't know if it's a sense of righteousness or a number of tickets written
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I got a parking ticket like that in the mail many years ago but from San Francisco. I simply returned it saying it was not me (I was not in SF that day and never even been in the area of the violation) and I never heard from them again.Since the city of Oakland is now a bastion of tranquility having solved the crime spree of the last 5 decades, I just received a notice of parking violation via mail that starts with "Our records show that you have failed to respond to the parking ticket listed above". The ticket is a generic violation "Obedience to Signs"
I never had a parking ticket issued in Oakland and last time I was in Oakland, I was sitting in a park right next to my car so I know nobody came by and issued a parking citation.
Secondly, the address of violation is not where I was parked.
Thirdly, the address written on the ticket is a red zone (and not where I, a paranoid maniac, would never park).
Has anybody dealt with Oakland parking mafia?
P.S. Should I even mention to them that even if the car was parked in the red zone, the right violation would be red zone violation and not a generic obedience to signs. These idiots don't even know how to write tickets.
P.P.S. There are security cameras on buildings all around the alleged parking area. If the city is so inclined they can check the cameras to see if my cage was ever there.
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That's some bull-ass shit
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I'm always being blamed. No, it wasn't me.
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It's that way in San Francisco and many other cities.
I started work with CCSF in 1978. Then parking was part of the police. They moved the parking division to a new department of their own, called "Department of Parking and Traffic" in the 1980's. And they were very strict at first, even gave parking tickets to black & white cop cars that did not park legally.
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I wonder how that worked out when they called for help with a pissed off car owner?
I'd guess that police response was not fast.
I'd guess that police response was not fast.
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I am not sure why, but the department heads of Parking and Traffic and the Police Department hated each other.
In the city of SF, that happens a lot between department heads, but I have no idea why.
At least it used to.. I used to work for the Department of Electricity. Our General Manager hated Muni. But I kinda know the story there, it all started when Muni wanted to hire their own techs and no longer use us. In the end, it worked out great for both departments, but the hate between the department heads stayed until they both retired.
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If it's what was attempted in Richmond, the Parking head wanted to create their own little empire that they ruled (and probably got a huge salary increase as a result), they probably snuck to city hall and got the split passed, then kept the parking revenue for themself (instead of the police keeping it) with a percentage thrown to city hall. That would have cut a sizeable chunk out of the police budget, parking brings in $$$$$ from fines well beyond the operating costs.
Looking at the Google maps, the right turn arrows were painted sometime around 2015-2016 and are mostly gone now. There were 3 cars parked ahead of me and none of them had a parking citation when I left.
If it was a no stopping sign, then what is the law as to what constitutes a reasonable distance from that sign where one can park? I couldn't find anything in the Oakland parking code for this.
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I know that in Richmond, they once considered mounting a camera system on the street sweepers for automatic ticketing of cars that hadn't moved along the route. It never got implemented, but there is at least one system out there available, that would not include a paper ticket put on each car, just a fine delivered via USPS.
Dunno. In San Francisco it's 100'. Looks like California state has no rules--I see other places people get tickets for not following rules posted on the town boundary.
In this case it is less than 100', and all the parking nearby has specifically designated spaces, most with meters. I don't know how you'd know that. Also most of the intersections have red curbs, so I have no idea why this one does not. I have seen cars parked there before--maybe all of them got tickets?
There were 4 cars parked ahead of mine. One of them my friend's (who didn't get a ticket). Being out of town I assumed it was okay to park considering there were no warning signs where I parked at the very end.
In LA, the no parking signs usually have arrows to make them easy to understand.
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I guess you can write to them. Doubt you'll get out of it but you could ask for a red curb and tell them all the rest of the immediate area has that.
I have no idea why NorCal doesn't use arrows on no parking signs. Certainly they used arrows where I grew up on the east coast.
Instead they use "No Parking Between Signs". Uh, where's the next sign? Forward or back? 20' away or 200' away? What does it mean if there's more than two such signs (rare but I've seen it)?
Seattle 'solves' this by saying "No Parking East of Here". Make sure to carry your compass!
I have no idea why NorCal doesn't use arrows on no parking signs. Certainly they used arrows where I grew up on the east coast.
Instead they use "No Parking Between Signs". Uh, where's the next sign? Forward or back? 20' away or 200' away? What does it mean if there's more than two such signs (rare but I've seen it)?
Seattle 'solves' this by saying "No Parking East of Here". Make sure to carry your compass!