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The NFL = Socialism
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tuxumino
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It's also a great metaphor for modern land warfare
morthrane
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Modern religion.
wannabe
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Obviously, Maher was making an oversimplification for the purposes of trying to be funny. Socialism is much easier when there are only 32 people in your group, and all 32 are honestly and truly doing their best to succeed and not just live off the money in the pot.
Thanks, George.
Obviously. I saw it more of a tongue-in-cheek explanation. Humorous but still thought provoking.
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Well, he does have a point wannabe. Socialism needs a central authority to make it work, and the NFL plays that role in glitter engraved spades.
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I wasn't saying that there weren't some valid points in the video. I was just saying that it was a gross oversimplification.
The thing that the NFL as an organization understands is that 'a rising tide raises all boats.' Major League Baseball doesn't seem to understand this same point. Of course, some could argue that the issue with the MLB is that the player's union is much too strong. But, that would be an oversimplification as well.
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Is that allowed in baseball?
He's not comparing the NFL to the MLB. He was making a comment about Socialism working in the NFL vs. working in the United States.
Is that allowed in baseball?
Baseball teams have 80 home games and can always make money. You can't compared that to 8 home games with 500 million dollar stadium costs. It's not the same. I was comparing it more to socialism vs capitalism in an economy with leeches rather than football vs baseball
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Is that allowed in baseball?
Baseball has an anti-trust exemption, and has so for years. No one gets to compete against them, yet they're not really a regulated monopoly either.
16 games vs 160+ makes a difference in the end right? Baseball players also make 75% more money on average than NFL. But as a league I think NFL makes more than any other sporting league in the world
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Which makes the case that Socialism basically only works in small limited cases where everyone acts with the interest of the group/organization in mind for the most part. The reason given is that in these situations everyone has their goals and methods of attaining their goals in alignment.
However with the big ol' US of A it is an entirely different beast of a situation and individuals standing next to each other in this nation can have vastly polar opposite interests and/or views on attempting to attain even similar goals. Thus if socialism were to "work" in this nation then we would have to crush all individualism and take Mahrer's wealth and spread it around which would seriously put a dent in his ability to nab super models.
Edit: Also his (Bill Mahrer) view doesn't even address the fact that the owners in the NFL are the ones who reap the biggest rewards with the least amount of actual physical effort in the entire endeavor which basically undermines his "fairness appeal".
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Plus, not that it's happene yet, but the league chooses when to expand retract as necessary. Wouldn't quite work in real life. Can't just kick all of Oakland out.
Plus, not that it's happene yet, but the league chooses when to expand retract as necessary. Wouldn't quite work in real life. Can't just kick all of Oakland out.
Well let me tell you I'd be all okay with Maher's example of "socialism" as long as I get to be an equivalent of a NFL owner. So if you aren't performing or leading my team to the super bowl, generating me a metric shit ton of money then guess what? GTFO meat-head go work as a bouncer for nightclub or something.
In the end his argument cherry picks parts of the NFL that jive with his political view points while totally ignoring the parts that aren't inline with these same political beliefs.
Well let me tell you I'd be all okay with Maher's example of "socialism" as long as I get to be an equivalent of a NFL owner. So if you aren't performing or leading my team to the super bowl, generating me a metric shit ton of money then guess what? GTFO meat-head go work as a bouncer for nightclub or something.
In the end his argument cherry picks parts of the NFL that jive with his political view points while totally ignoring the parts that aren't inline with these same political beliefs.
I could argue that he disproved himself with his own POV. Since baseball players on average make more than football players, but the MLB makes less than the NFL, I'd say that the MLB structure is better for the country. The governing body makes less and the people make more