The Vaccine Thread.

[berth]

It's funny, there are certainly folks in higher risk categories, or positions and they, ideally, should be in the front of the line for vaccinations.

But the rest of us, it's no different. Because in the end, it doesn't matter where you are in line. While you may rush and elbow your way to the front of the line, the World(tm) isn't going to open up until the people at the back of the line get theirs.

I'm as eager for this to be done as anyone, but realities overcome eagerness.

So, I'm just patiently waiting for it to show up to the mass public as it rolls out. Meanwhile, SIP, mask up, and keep off my lawn.

 

[dravnx]

Being in SAC, we were on worldwide deployment status. It seems every 6 mos we were lined up and shot in the arm with those guns. I don't remember anyone ever getting any kind of infection or adverse reaction.

 

[Yakoo752]

Being in SAC, we were on worldwide deployment status. It seems every 6 mos we were lined up and shot in the arm with those guns. I don't remember anyone ever getting any kind of infection or adverse reaction.

My 10 years of service (2000-2010), having given thousands of vaccines, I've never seen a jet used in person.

In the 1980’s an outbreak of Hepatitis B was found to be connected with jet injections administered at a weight clinic. There were 31 cases of hepatitis B recorded from patients that received jet injections at the same clinic. An investigation on this clinic took place which “demonstrated that Jet injectors can become contaminated with hepatitis B virus and then may be vehicles for its transmission.” This clinic stopped the use of jet injectors in July of 1985. A few years after the Hepatitis B outbreak soldiers from the generation of jet injection vaccines began to make claims that their diagnosis with hepatitis C was a result of the multi-use jet injectors.

“It’s widely reported that up to 1 in 10 Vietnam veterans have hepatitis C – roughly five times higher than the rate of the overall population.” (Leung) A large majority of veterans diagnosed with Hep C blame their diagnosis on jet injectors and their unsanitary conditions from person to person. It was also advised that anyone who received a vaccination by needless injector should be tested for hepatitis C. Jet injectors were made with the best intentions and helped to prevent multiple diseases through out the world, but their poor sanitation procedures resulted in the end to an era. Because of these claims, in December 1997 the Defense Medical Standardization Board stated all jet injector devices be discontinued for the U.S. Military.

I don't know of a single study that validated this but numbers are numbers...

 

[ctwo]

They aren't letting us get the vaccine is we have tested positive within 90 days. That's a large portion of our hospital staff that can't get the shot that would like to.

This is odd because I would expect an infected and recovered person to be just as immune from infection and transmission from future exposures, but apparently we don't know? If that were really case, then it would seen a vaccine would be even less effective at interfering with transmission. But what do I know

 

[brichter]

Being in SAC, we were on worldwide deployment status. It seems every 6 mos we were lined up and shot in the arm with those guns. I don't remember anyone ever getting any kind of infection or adverse reaction.

Yup, I was SAC also. I'd get a sore arm now and then, but nothing more severe than that.

What did you do, and where were you doing it?

 

[norcalkid]

Got my second jab today.

 

[GAJ]

Got my second jab today.

 

[Yakoo752]

State has opened vaccines up to +65 age group.

Neither Kaiser nor Sutter have the quantity to offer at this time.

 

[Abacinator]

One of my elderly customers is heading to Fresno tomorrow for her first injection.

 

[bikeama]

State has opened vaccines up to +65 age group.

Neither Kaiser nor Sutter have the quantity to offer at this time.

Who is sitting on the vaccine? The local paper says only 30% of the available vaccine in CA has been used.

 

[Yakoo752]

I think most are going to locations in CA that have significant impact to the hospital/health system.

 

[bojangle]

I'm still waiting for mine. I had to go to a house today where supposedly everyone had covid. I didn't go inside, but still had outdoor contact. The state needs to take care of first responders. We are getting exposed a lot.

 

[afm199]

I'm still waiting for mine. I had to go to a house today where supposedly everyone had covid. I didn't go inside, but still had outdoor contact. The state needs to take care of first responders. We are getting exposed a lot.

Hey, as long as our "leaders" get it, we're good.

I'm in the old guy cohort, will get it (vaccine) soon. I'd rather it went to first responders, all medical personnel, anyone working in public, and maybe politicians after the twenty year olds get it.

 

[ctwo]

I'm a little off about that.

Is it proven that a vaccine prevents contagion?
Is it proven that previous infection does not provide protection or prevents contagion?
Is it proven that vaccinating those with previous sars-cov-2 experience provides additional protection or contagion?

Would our society be better off if we vaccinated people without sars-cov-2 experience before those who have already been infected?

 

[Climber]

My understanding is that the vaccine prevents the virus from getting access to cells which means that it is blocked from reproducing and it's the produced virus organisms that shed and infecting others.

Perhaps DR SLO can correct my understanding.

 

[ctwo]

My understanding is that the vaccine prevents the virus from getting access to cells which means that it is blocked from reproducing and it's the produced virus organisms that shed and infecting others.

Perhaps DR SLO can correct my understanding.

If you say that then vaccinated people need not wear a mask.

 

[bikeama]

I'm still waiting for mine. I had to go to a house today where supposedly everyone had covid. I didn't go inside, but still had outdoor contact. The state needs to take care of first responders. We are getting exposed a lot.

The grocery clerk is in contact all day long. With 70% of the vaccine in CA in storage, it is time to get started giving shots.

Just a frustrated old man. who wants a shot.
My 38-year-old daughter gets her shot tomorrow in Texas.

 

[Yakoo752]

The difference between +75 and +65 patient population size for just 1 Health System in CA is 2.5M patients.

Just to put it in perspective.

 

[Climber]

If you say that then vaccinated people need not wear a mask.

Probably true.
However, how do you know who has been vaccinated?
Too many selfish people out there who will pretend they have been while not.
Human nature.

 

[Yakoo752]

My understanding is that the vaccine prevents the virus from getting access to cells which means that it is blocked from reproducing and it's the produced virus organisms that shed and infecting others.

Perhaps DR SLO can correct my understanding.

If you say that then vaccinated people need not wear a mask.

My understanding is it would prevent the virus from replicating within your system. That doesn't mean you don't have live viral particle in your respiratory tract.

 

[Abacinator]

Contra costa is now signing up people 65 and older and those with health conditions

 

[Abacinator]

Contra costa is now signing up people 65 and older and those with health conditions

 

[GAJ]

State has opened vaccines up to +65 age group.

Neither Kaiser nor Sutter have the quantity to offer at this time.

Kaiser has oddly been silent on their near daily e'mail updates in terms of THEIR role.

They simply parrot the State line but unlike CVS et al are not saying "we are setting up vaccine stations" etc.

For the flu shot they rapidly set up Drive Through stations and let everyone know about it.

 

[brichter]

Kaiser has oddly been silent on their near daily e'mail updates in terms of THEIR role.

They simply parrot the State line but unlike CVS et al are not saying "we are setting up vaccine stations" etc.

For the flu shot they rapidly set up Drive Through stations and let everyone know about it.

they sent this Tuesday:

Important information:

COVID-19 vaccine — While vaccines are currently in limited supply, we’re expecting supplies to increase so that all adults in the United States can get vaccinated by late 2021. Here’s where we currently are with the distribution process:

Phased approach — Federal health officials are using a phased approach to prioritize general groups of people eligible to receive the vaccine. Phase 1a includes health care workers and residents of long-term care facilities. The next group in Phase 1b includes people 75 and older and essential front-line workers, such as teachers, firefighters, and grocery store employees.

State guidelines — States will use these federal recommendations to make their own decisions about which groups of people to include in the next phases.

Limited supply — Due to limited supply, not everyone who’s eligible will be able to make an appointment right away. We’re acting as quickly as we can to provide the vaccine safely to those who are eligible as supply allows.

The groups and timing for each phase may be different in different states, and this information may change frequently. Visit kp.org/covidvaccine for the latest info on state vaccine priorities and how to get a vaccine when you meet your state’s criteria. You can also call our 24/7 recorded message hotline at 1‑855‑550‑0951 (available in English and Spanish) for regular updates.

We need your help to stop the spread — With COVID-19 cases surging across the country, no one can let their guard down, and everyone has a role to play in stopping the spread. Please continue to wear a mask, wash your hands, stay 6 feet apart, and don’t share your air.

Didn’t get a flu shot? Here’s why it’s important to get one — If you’ve ever had the flu, you know how miserable it can be. Symptoms can include fever, body aches, sore throat, and cough, and in severe cases, people with the flu can end up in the hospital. With COVID-19 cases surging and hospital resources stretched thin, protecting your health is more important than ever. Get your flu shot today.

So, they don't state they are not setting up drive through lines, they state they are making appointments for all those who qualify for the vaccine at this time. By the way, CVS is using appointments also, even though they are setting up drive through lines.

My flu shot through Kaiser was appointment only, but at a drive through line.

 

[GAJ]

My flu shot through Kaiser was appointment only, but at a drive through line.

I didn't need an appt. for my drive up Kaiser Flu shot.

This was buried in your link so I "assume" we will be contacted when our turn comes up.

"We’re acting as quickly as we can to provide the vaccine safely to those who are eligible as supply allows."