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Thoughts on a 1995 KX125???

SpyderGirl

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I am looking at this bike on Craigslist for my hubby

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/mcy/1543776890.html

Just wondering what you guys think about it. He claims that he purchased it from a friend of his and the bike has hardly been ridden. The bike looks clean and the price is our range.

The bike would be for my hubby who is a mellow rider. This would be his first bike. He is 6'3" 220lbs with a 30" inseam. I was thinking about a KX250 but fear that would just be way too much bike for him. The bike would be for learning on and trail riding. No intentions on doing all out motocross on the bike anytime soon.

We're going to go look at the bike tomorrow morning.

Thoughts???

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I am looking at this bike on Craigslist for my hubby

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/mcy/1543776890.html

Just wondering what you guys think about it. He claims that he purchased it from a friend of his and the bike has hardly been ridden. The bike looks clean and the price is our range.

The bike would be for my hubby who is a mellow rider. This would be his first bike. He is 6'3" 220lbs with a 30" inseam. I was thinking about a KX250 but fear that would just be way too much bike for him. The bike would be for learning on and trail riding. No intentions on doing all out motocross on the bike anytime soon.

We're going to go look at the bike tomorrow morning.

Thoughts???

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A 125 2-stroke is an entirely different animal, and it takes some decent skills to ride one effectively...especially on trails. There's not a whole lot of room for "mellow" when riding a 125 2-stroke. It certainly wouldn't be the end of the world if this turned out to be his first bike, but it probably won't be the most pleasant learning experience. I would keep my eyes open for a Kawasaki KDX200 or KDX220 instead. Lots of them out there, super-cheap to buy, bullet-proof, light, easy to ride, lots of hop-up parts available for them when he's ready, easy to maintain, easy to sell should he decide to upgrade or go 4-stroke or whatever.


Just my :2cents



WoodsChick
 
Okay, thanks.
 
A 125 2-stroke is an entirely different animal, and it takes some decent skills to ride one effectively...especially on trails. There's not a whole lot of room for "mellow" when riding a 125 2-stroke. It certainly wouldn't be the end of the world if this turned out to be his first bike, but it probably won't be the most pleasant learning experience. I would keep my eyes open for a Kawasaki KDX200 or KDX220 instead. Lots of them out there, super-cheap to buy, bullet-proof, light, easy to ride, lots of hop-up parts available for them when he's ready, easy to maintain, easy to sell should he decide to upgrade or go 4-stroke or whatever.


Just my :2cents



WoodsChick


Im sorry Im a little confused. You say the 125 2T is a beast and not good for mellow riding, but then suggest a 200 2T?
 
Im sorry Im a little confused. You say the 125 2T is a beast and not good for mellow riding, but then suggest a 200 2T?
a 125 mx bike has a very peaky powerband. a kdx200 won't make much more power but will make way more torque.
 
Ohh okay.. Yea I know. the 98 kx125 I have right now is the one I started on (a few months ago) and it is definitely waaaay up there for the powerband. I am definitely growing into th ebike now, as my "skills" on the lodge track and trails have greatly improved since I first started
 
you would be far better off with the 220. a 125 mx bike is not a beginner dirt bike at all, I know, my buddies put me on it and said go for it ha ha....
they are not mellow at all and cannot chug, you either have power or do not. They are light switch power. Not that it can't be done, I did it, but if he is a mellow rider he will be far better off with a 200 or 220 and will have more fun and be more likely to enjoy himself. I ended up getting a yz250f and found the power to be much more manageable and have had much more fun dirty riding once I got the 250f over the 125. I even enjoyed the 250 2t more than the 125 because of more torque and not having to be on the throttle nearly as much.
 
Ok, just a few random observations on the 2 bikes for sale...

The KX is 2 years older than the KDX, yet costs $200 more.
The ad says it still has the original tires on it, yet it has all new plastics.
That leads me to believe that it isn't as "low-hour" as the seller would like buyers to believe. It's pretty hard to wear out/thrash all the plastics without wearing out stock tires. I have bought a few new bikes that came with crappy stock tires. They come off immediately, replaced by tires that actually work. The stock tires sit in my basement til I'm ready to sell the bike. Not to say this is what is going on with the KX125, but just something to think about since you're fairly new to the dirtbike-buying game. Look at the footpegs. The teeth on them should still be sharp if the bike has low hours. Also, is all the paint worn off on the frame where your boots rub? Does the shifter/brake lever still have the cross-hatch marks on it? And what about that after-market pipe? Does the seller still have the stock pipe?

Also, 2-strokes don't get "tuned up." At the very least they get new rings, but most likely it will need a new piston also. The 125 motors, by virtue of their natural characteristics, tend to be high-stress motors and will need more maintenance more often than the KDX 200 motor. If your guy is into mellow riding, you will probably be going through spark plugs regularly and having to re-pack the silencer all the time. 125's were not made for "mellow" at all.

I've been riding 125's for over 20 years (I rode them almost exclusively for 14 years) and I can assure you that they demand more attention than a larger bore motorcycle. I would be very cautious and extremely picky if I were in the market for a 15-year old 125 2-stroke, and I would be ready to replace the piston and rings immediately upon purchase. I would also take someone along that knows how a properly set-up 125 2-stroke should run.


As far as the KDX goes, you are looking at a bike that has stood the test of time. I can guarantee you there are a lot more `97 KDX's running around out there than there are `95 125 2-stroke motocrossers. The KDX is 2 years newer and is $200 cheaper. It will be easier to learn on, will take you farther into your riding career, and will be a lot less maintenance-intensive. I've ridden several KDX's and every one of them has been a joy to ride. Way more fun than would be expected, and a hell of a lot easier (less work) to ride than any 125 I've ever owned. They will scream like a motocrosser if you wind them up enough, yet they'll happily chug up the gnarliest hills in 2nd gear easy as you please. It will be much easier/cheaper to modify to your personal needs, as there are zillions of pre-tested mods out there for the KDX, and entire websites dedicated to getting all you can out of them. Check out http://justkdx.dirtrider.net/ for a glimpse into the world of KDX. While you're there, take a quick gander at the classifieds and I think you'll see that the KDX in your ad is a pretty good deal.

Not knowing anything about the actual bikes in question, if I had to choose between them right now, there is no question about it: I would go with the KDX.




WoodsChick
 
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KDX 220 didn't come out until after 1997 IIRC, so that's a 200 if it's a 1997. New gas tank is curious, not usually a wear or crash replacement item. Headlight and shell has been replaced with a number plate, probably due to crash damage. Rear fender replaced probably because it was looped, check if the subframe is tweaked. (It's steel and bends back easy enough.) Fork gaiters are gone, curious. It should have something on the forks to protect them from roost dings and dirt fouling the seals.
 
KDX 220 didn't come out until after 1997 IIRC, so that's a 200 if it's a 1997. New gas tank is curious, not usually a wear or crash replacement item. Headlight and shell has been replaced with a number plate, probably due to crash damage. Rear fender replaced probably because it was looped, check if the subframe is tweaked. (It's steel and bends back easy enough.) Fork gaiters are gone, curious. It should have something on the forks to protect them from roost dings and dirt fouling the seals.

The first year of the 220 was 1997, but the 200 was offered that same year, too. It wouldn't be so bad if it was the 200, though. I don't think the 220 ended up being the world-beater upgrade Kawi was hoping for.

I raised my eyebrows at the new tank, as well, but I wonder if it's the stock tank that came with the bike? I knew the last 125 I bought was going to get a big IMS tank so I took the stock tank off and hung it up in the rafters of my garage. It's still there, and it still looks pretty new.



WoodsChick
 
looks like a stock tank ... full aftermarket exhaust as well ... probably a good deal
get the kdx,that 125 will not be fun
i see lots of dads chasing their kids around carnegie on xr200/ttr250's seems like a nice beginner bikes with enough power to pull a full size dude
 
looks like a stock tank ... full aftermarket exhaust as well ... probably a good deal
get the kdx,that 125 will not be fun
i see lots of dads chasing their kids around carnegie on xr200/ttr250's seems like a nice beginner bikes with enough power to pull a full size dude

Yep, tank is a factory replacement. The original one had a leak when the present owner bought it.



WoodsChick
 
SpyderGirl I have a 2001 YZ 125 that will be for sale soon, only $1000 Interested?
 
Well we decided to go for the KX125. We paid $850 for it. The tires are definitely original. He had a new back tire for it and I am going to get a new front tire for it before we ride. He said that he replaced the plastics because the old ones had faded badly. The original owner was a friend (a girl) and hardly rode it. He had it for about a year and never really got a chance to ride it and replaced the plastics, decals, oil, and spark plug and then decided to sell it so he would have more time to work on the Chevelle he had sitting in his garage. And he had an ATV that he said he preferred.

The hubby took a little spin around the block on the bike and said he liked it. The bike fired right up after about 2 kicks and sounded good and idled nice. Has a full aftermarket exhaust too. The footpegs are still sharp but the springs are rusted and worn a little. There is still paint on the frame, not really worn at all. Looks like it may had been kept outside at some point.

I figure if it ends up just being too much for him we'll turn around and sell it for what we paid for it and maybe look at a KDX220 or something similar instead.

Thank you for all the feedback, this will be a learning experience for me. I have no problems with rebuilding the motor if need be, I have experience working on 4 stroke motors (cars).
 
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Since someone was asking..

Nice ride! I'll let you all know how the KX125 we bought works out. If it doesn't we have someone wanting to trade for his KX250 which we already have looked at. Nice to know we have options.

Thank you all for the input. :ride
 
What was the guy's first name that you bought the KX125 from? He sounds like somebody I know.
 
What was the guy's first name that you bought the KX125 from? He sounds like somebody I know.

Kenny. He lives in Concord near Olivera and Willow Pass.
 
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