Time To Get Fit - 2024

[Climber]

17 mile round trip to the top of Half Dome and back on Monday. Its been on the list to do for a while.

Always wanted to do that, but the timing was never right and I'd never want to do it when the crowds were there.
What was it like on top?
Was up on Glacier Point one year and a hail storm came with lightning while a bunch of people were on top, seemed like a shitty place to be under those circumstances.

 

[900ss]

Good question, It's debatable You still getting out to the bluffs?

Hey Mike - yeah, we were there last Sunday. Rode up USCS and down LongMeadow a couple of weeks back. We never get tired of either ride. How's things? We are deader than dogshit at work. I still think back to the Flow training trip to Kent; good times (at least for me).

 

[stangmx13]

Always wanted to do that, but the timing was never right and I'd never want to do it when the crowds were there.

That ship probably sailed a long time ago. There's now a permitting system between Memorial Day and October to reduce the number of hikers. The posts holding the cables are removed outside of those months, so the summit kinda becomes a 5th-class climb with good chances of wet/icy granite. You likely have the skill and equipment to summit in the off-season, but it may not be as enjoyable.

 

[Climber]

That ship probably sailed a long time ago. There's now a permitting system between Memorial Day and October to reduce the number of hikers. The posts holding the cables are removed outside of those months, so the summit kinda becomes a 5th-class climb with good chances of wet/icy granite. You likely have the skill and equipment to summit in the off-season, but it may not be as enjoyable.

It would likely be more enjoyable but with all of the things that have gone on over the last decade my main climbing rope is beyond safety limits so I'd have to replace it at a minimum. Then I'd have to find somebody to go with me.

 

[scratchpad]

Always wanted to do that, but the timing was never right and I'd never want to do it when the crowds were there.
What was it like on top?
Was up on Glacier Point one year and a hail storm came with lightning while a bunch of people were on top, seemed like a shitty place to be under those circumstances.

Start early and beat the crowds. We started at 4:30 am with headlamps. Some members of the group i went with needed way too many breaks which set us back several hours (3-4) throughout the way up. Crowds were not a problem until i was running back down the mountain and got to the falls area.

My opinion is that the top is good for fueling up, taking a few pics and heading down. We lost so many hours on the way up i was ready to go after about 25 minutes so i took off and ran as much as i could on the way down.

 

[two wheel tramp]

OK, I was a slacker in June.
Average distance = 4.4 miles.
Average steps 9,826.
Average 66 minutes of exercise per day.
Resting HR average is 59.

 

[Climber]

It's been hot, but you're still doing great, TWT.

You can't always be on the edge, it's how it averages out over the year that really matters.

 

[Mike95060]

OK, I was a slacker in June.
Average distance = 4.4 miles.
Average steps 9,826.
Average 66 minutes of exercise per day.
Resting HR average is 59.

Mount fitness gets steeper the longer your on it. Don't let that discourage you. Don't forget, there was a time those totals would have been unimaginable to you. Use an easy period to get you hungry for something more and keep going!

 

[two wheel tramp]

Fitness is a daily habit. My stress melts when I walk.

It's been hot, but you're still doing great, TWT.

You can't always be on the edge, it's how it averages out over the year that really matters.

 

[stangmx13]

There's some "new" research about calories and the human body that has been making the rounds lately. This research suggests that individuals are predisposed to burning a set amount of calories, somewhat independent of activity level. It also takes something crazy to alter that, and probably for only a short time. For ex, a coach potato uses 2000Cal a day. Then they take up marathon training and will likely burn far more... but not permanently. Eventually, the now marathon runner will return to burning around 2000Cal a day again.

This vid uses a lot of fudge-factor words - "about", "approximately", etc. It would be difficult to know how much wiggle room there is in all of those, especially for an individual person. Remember that when thinking about these concepts for yourself.

A concept in this vid that I haven't seen is that extra calories can cause inflammation because your immune system is acting too strong. Interesting.

 

[Holeshot]

Body composition has much to do with calorie burn as does high intensity/ medium intensity loads. IMO, portion size is significant as is muscle mass. Smaller portions and increasing muscle mass should = higher calorie burn on average. Does the study account for differences in muscle density?

 

[Das MotorRad]

I've been on an all-meat diet for the past 18 months or so. I lost 50lbs in six months while restricting calories. Once I hit my goal I started to eat whenever I was hungry, but only meat. No salt, seasoning, sugar, supplements, nada. I'm up 10lbs from my low with a decent change in body composition without an increase to my waist size. I'm averaging around 1.5lbs of bleu steak and 2-3lbs of ground beef per day.

I do bodyweight exercises and a little bench press a couple of times a week, totaling around 30 minutes a day. I want to increase my daily activity but I work an average of 60 hours per week, how do others incorporate cardio into a busy schedule? Anything better than squats at my desk?

 

[stangmx13]

Body composition has much to do with calorie burn as does high intensity/ medium intensity loads. IMO, portion size is significant as is muscle mass. Smaller portions and increasing muscle mass should = higher calorie burn on average. Does the study account for differences in muscle density?

I haven’t read the study yet. I’ll find the time eventually.

I’m not sure any of this matters. The study is likely comparing one person only to themselves. Someone that dramatically changed their body composition may fall outside the study. The vid did mention how having more muscle does increase calorie requirements.

 

[stangmx13]

I've been on an all-meat diet for the past 18 months or so. I lost 50lbs in six months while restricting calories. Once I hit my goal I started to eat whenever I was hungry, but only meat. No salt, seasoning, sugar, supplements, nada. I'm up 10lbs from my low with a decent change in body composition without an increase to my waist size. I'm averaging around 1.5lbs of bleu steak and 2-3lbs of ground beef per day.

I do bodyweight exercises and a little bench press a couple of times a week, totaling around 30 minutes a day. I want to increase my daily activity but I work an average of 60 hours per week, how do others incorporate cardio into a busy schedule? Anything better than squats at my desk?

You are full ketosis? How hard did the brain fog hit? Have you tried any real extended cardio since? It may suck a lot without carbs.

I have one friend that occasionally works 60hr weeks. He’s an industrial electrician, union job. He’s also an ultramarathoner with 2 kids. He runs before dawn a lot and likes it. It also seems like he’s fine with very little sleep compared to normal people. Also, he eats A LOT.

 

[Mike95060]

Ihow do others incorporate cardio into a busy schedule?

My yard is trash, my house is dirty and I don’t work more than 40 hrs a week.

I feel very privileged to make ends meet on the hrs i work. I worked a lot of OT in my 30’s out of necessity. I get it. There are definitely trade offs to putting your exercise routines as a priority. I choose to slip a bit on housework and socializing.

 

[Das MotorRad]

You are full ketosis? How hard did the brain fog hit? Have you tried any real extended cardio since? It may suck a lot without carbs.

I have one friend that occasionally works 60hr weeks. He’s an industrial electrician, union job. He’s also an ultramarathoner with 2 kids. He runs before dawn a lot and likes it. It also seems like he’s fine with very little sleep compared to normal people. Also, he eats A LOT.

That's right, I suppose. I do not eat any amount of carbs, not one gram. Not even the fake sweeteners.

In the very beginning there was a transition week or two where I was low-energy and my body was dumping a lot of the excess water that was being held from the carbs. After that my energy and mental clarity went through the roof.

My cardio sprint/peak performance is back to where it was before going full keto, that took six months or so. The marathon/extended cardio performance is now only limited by my lack of conditioning now rather than lack of energy. It's strange, I feel like I could walk or run indefinitely. I grew up hating running because my family are all marathoners and I am a black sheep, but I'm starting to feel a pull towards cardio and spending some of this energy that I have now that I did not have before. I think I am going to start walking in the mornings with a goal to run.

My yard is trash, my house is dirty and I don’t work more than 40 hrs a week.

I feel very privileged to make ends meet on the hrs i work. I worked a lot of OT in my 30’s out of necessity. I get it. There are definitely trade offs to putting your exercise routines as a priority. I choose to slip a bit on housework and socializing.

I look forward to a messy yard, house, and 40 hours a week!

 

[Holeshot]

There are definitely trade offs to putting your exercise routines as a priority. I choose to slip a bit on housework and socializing.

Mike, you ever run a HR monitor while doing inside/ outside chores? Might surprise yourself in how much Zone 3-4 work you're really doing.

I look forward to a messy yard, house, and 40 hours a week!

See above: some of the more chore like activities can be considered medium cardio with benefits. I've run mine several times on a medium and long car detail job. I fall a bit behind my normal daily workout(s) in average HR and zone 5 time, but the calories burned is more than my 1-1.5 hour workout many times. Plus, I enjoy the hell of detaling....so, there's ways to accomplish two goals IMO.

 

[Mike95060]

Mike, you ever run a HR monitor while doing inside/ outside chores? Might surprise yourself in how much Zone 3-4 work you're really doing.


See above: some of the more chore like activities can be considered medium cardio with benefits. I've run mine several times on a medium and long car detail job. I fall a bit behind my normal daily workout(s) in average HR and zone 5 time, but the calories burned is more than my 1-1.5 hour workout many times. Plus, I enjoy the hell of detaling....so, there's ways to accomplish two goals IMO.

Your a maniac!! I was actually thinking about the early screenshots you put up from your garmin. 5.0/5.0 is a crazy work out. I have never hit numbers like that. Not on both AER. And ANA.

I neglected ro mention that most of my housework is done after a bong rip at a less than medium pace. Because, that’s the only way I don’t hate it

 

[stangmx13]

I’m a hermit and I work around 30hrs a week. That’s how I can prioritize training and still get all the other stuff done. My rest days do occasionally require yard work. Weed whacking the 2-3ft tall weeds in my front yard last Thurs was less than fun. Max HR was 98, avg in the 80s. Mowing the lawn is comparable.

Also, if anyone is at Northstar this Sat, maybe I can say hi . My goal time will have me finishing just after noon.

 

[Climber]

There's some "new" research about calories and the human body that has been making the rounds lately. This research suggests that individuals are predisposed to burning a set amount of calories, somewhat independent of activity level. It also takes something crazy to alter that, and probably for only a short time. For ex, a coach potato uses 2000Cal a day. Then they take up marathon training and will likely burn far more... but not permanently. Eventually, the now marathon runner will return to burning around 2000Cal a day again.


This vid uses a lot of fudge-factor words - "about", "approximately", etc. It would be difficult to know how much wiggle room there is in all of those, especially for an individual person. Remember that when thinking about these concepts for yourself.

A concept in this vid that I haven't seen is that extra calories can cause inflammation because your immune system is acting too strong. Interesting.

Years ago my walk around weight was 168 and I would get up to 175 if I trained consistently.

Then, when I was in between jobs I wondered what I'd look like if I put on muscle to get up to 200 lbs. What I found out is that after doing that, my body decided that was my natural weight and it was very hard to get my weight down below that. It particularly sucked because I got into rock climbing and became a competitive rock climber, I would have done much better if I had still been 168 but instead I worked very hard to just get down to 180 and it was a constant battle.

I don't think it's as much calories as a certain weight or mass.