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Tips for riding in high heat...Could save A/YOUR life!!

enjyursins

Weetard
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Nov 11, 2009
Location
eastbay
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One with wheels
Everybody is asking questions regarding hot weather riding so I would like to start a lil "Tips" section in hopes that it may prevent at least 1 rider to keep from getting a heat related illness. May be lengthy but I'll try to chop it down some.

Disclaimer: I am NOT in the medical industry nor do I have any type of formal training regarding heat specific problems. What I do have is common sense, previous military training as well as the desire to help keep any rider from falling victim to heat related illness. This thread includes diff. articles you can find online or from my own personal experience. This is geared more to the riders going on long rides or touring but everybody can use this to their advantage because it's just good info.

A lot of this is from David Hough: From: http://www.sound rider.com/archive/safety-skills/when_youre_hot.htm but I've mixed in personal wording to bring it up, or down, to BARF Standards as well.

The gist of riding in heat is pretty simple:

Stay hydrated- Min. 1pint per hr of WATER. If your sweating heavily, pick up a Gatorade to replace your lost electrolytes. Not soda or coffee... The body has sweat glands to keep the skin damp. The evaporating sweat sucks heat from the skin, and transfers it to the air. That's one reason why we need to drink about a pint of water every hour during hot, dry conditions.

Cover your skin...sorry T-shirt guys, but a couple hours in the sun in a T-shirt may feel good but you are literally cooking yourself. Covering your skin prevents you from getting sunburned and will help keep you cooler longer. You may be sweating while covered but for once, deal with it. Use a bandana, silk scarf or some sort of "Neck Tube" to protect ur neck. Keep it damp to increase cooling. Anyways, So why cover your skin when it's already hotter then hell?
Because to help cool down the body's core, blood vessels enlarge to circulate more blood (and therefore body heat) towards the skin. This is laymans terms for something called Vasodilation. If the air temp is hotter than your body temp, the increased blood flow simply soaks up more heat from the air and pumps it back to the core. Covering exposed skin will help minimize the amount of heat transfer from the Air to your Body. Think of Heat sinks on a cylinder head or oil pan. It works on almost the exact same principle.


- Take frequent rest breaks Stop, relax, cool off and hydrate. Enjoy the brake.

Sounds simple right? Well, it is but we all know there are people that are still going to put themselves in danger so for the rest of us, let's learn how to help them when we see them and prevent ourselves from being cooked.

Diff. between Heat Stroke and Heat Exhaustion and how to help a victim of
either.

Heat Exhaustion

Heat exhaustion occurs as the body continues to shunt blood away from the brain and muscles. Symptoms of heat exhaustion include:

1. Headaches, dizziness, nausea, momentary fainting

2. Cramps

3. Tiredness, weakness

4. Profuse sweating

5. Pale, clammy skin

6. Approximately normal body temperature

If you begin to feel these symptoms during a desert ride, take immediate action before you pass out.

1. Get into some shade, preferably into an air-conditioned room.

2. Loosen clothing and wet down skin or undershirt to increase evaporative cooling.

3. Slowly sip water, or salt water solution, same dose as for heat cramps. Avoid alcohol or caffeine.

4. If you feel faint, lie down and get feet raised above head level.

5. If you can’t keep the salt water down, get emergency medical aid. You may need an intravenous salt solution.

6. Even after you begin to feel normal again, consider staying out of the heat for a day or two. Your body needs some time to recuperate. If you are on a long trip, consider a 24 hour layover in the next air-conditioned motel.

Heat Stroke

If you experience heat exhaustion and just try to "tough out" the heat without getting cooled down and rehydrated, the body thermostats will begin to fail. Core temperature continues to rise (may go as high as 106 or 107 degrees F.), sweating stops, the heart beats even faster, and you may pass out. If you are coherent enough to recognize the symptoms, immediately get medical aid while you are still mobile. And watch your riding buddies for any of the following heat stroke symptoms.

1. Victim incoherent, staring vacantly, blanking out, or unresponsive

2. Skin hot, red, dry (no perspiration)

3. Rapid pulse

4. Body temperature elevated

Yes, heat stroke is life threatening. It’s a medical emergency. Don’t be bashful about calling 911 for assistance. In the meanwhile,

1. Get the victim into some shade, out of riding gear, and cooled down by any means available. If possible, get the victim into an air-conditioned room, or use fans to help provide evaporative cooling.

2. Repeatedly sponge skin with cool water or rubbing alcohol. Apply cold packs or ice cubes if you can get them. The goal is to get body temperature below 102 degrees F.

3. Don't give the victim any stimulants, especially not any alcoholic beverages.

4. If the victim's temperature begins to rise again, repeat the cooling process.

5. As soon as possible, get the victim to emergency treatment.
 
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Riding gear is a mixed issue. I'm not going to open that can of worms but sweating while wearing a protective jacket, pants, boots and gloves will actually allow you to maintain a cooler body temp then rockin' the obligatory Speedo and flip flops. You may look super ultra kool in your banana hammock....but, sorry bud, your not going to make it very far in this heat....Maybe to 1515 in Walnut Creek but that's a whole other story....

HYDRATE
HYDRATE
HYDRATE
HYDRATE
HYDRATE
HYDRATE
HYDRATE

Please feel free to add any other helpful information!!
Stay Safe Barf!!!
 
Lived and rode in Phoenix (where it was 118 yesterday) and rode across the desert in summer more than once so I know the drill. There is one thing I think needs to be added and that is that by the time you start to feel any signs of heat stroke or dehydration is it too late. You need to stop regularly just to make sure your head is right. Stop and assess your mental state. Your judgement is the first to go and once you've lost that, you are going to make mistakes.

Drink more water than is comfortable. Drink past being thirsty and into feeling like you are drowning.
 
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Great thread! :thumbup Thanks for the safety reminders!


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Yana:banana
 
Freeze a CamelBak water hydration system overnight; place it inside or outside of your suit depending on fit and need; clip tube in accessible location inside helmet.

I have traveled hundreds of miles in extreme heat, sipping ice water and appreciating the coolness of the backpack. When the ice totally melts, stop at fast food, and refill with ice....

This technique is just about ideal for staying cooler and maintaining hydration.
 
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Cover your skin...sorry T-shirt guys, but a couple hours in the sun in a T-shirt may feel good but you are literally cooking yourself. Covering your skin prevents you from getting sunburned and will help keep you cooler longer. You may be sweating while covered but for once, deal with it. Use a hanky or some sort of "Neck Tube" to protect ur neck. Keep it damp to increase cooling. Anyways, So why cover your skin when it's already hotter then hell?
Because to help cool down the body's core, blood vessels enlarge to circulate more blood (and therefore body heat) towards the skin. This is laymans terms for something called Vasodilation. If the air temp is hotter than your body temp, the increased blood flow simply soaks up more heat from the air and pumps it back to the core. Covering exposed skin will help minimize the amount of heat transfer from your body to the air. Think of Heat sinks on a cylinder head or oil pan. It works on almost the exact same principle.

I just wanted to quote this for effect. (And I think you got the second bolded part backwards) It amazes me that people can't figure out that they're drier, tired-er, and unhappier when riding in a t-shirt and shorts, as opposed to being out of the sun in some gear.

Same goes for earplugs, but lets not go there again. :laughing

Technically, if your hydrating properly, your going to have stop and pee so minus well enjoy the break.

Ya might want to edit that. :laughing
 
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I just wanted to add that if you are riding long enough and sweat heavily you are also loosing electrolytes. Drinking just water will not be enough. Sporting stores sell electrolyte tables you can add to the water. It will be cheaper then buying gatorade, and more effective.
 
I rode for an hour yesterday around 6pm. It was pretty hot and I ended up with a rash on my neck... is it from the heat?
 
Freezing the water bladder in a camelback is a great idea. I've refrigerated mine, too worried to freeze it for fear of ripping the bladder.

For all those that suggested some edits, done! Thank u very much for ur input!!!
 
I just wanted to quote this for effect. (And I think you got the second bolded part backwards) It amazes me that people can't figure out that they're drier, tired-er, and unhappier when riding in a t-shirt and shorts, as opposed to being out of the sun in some gear.

Same goes for earplugs, but lets not go there again. :laughing



Ya might want to edit that. :laughing

+1 Sweat is the body's main way of combating excessive temperatures but exposure of bare skin to the sun is a nice way to dehydrate yourself rather quickly. You'd be better off dressing like a desert nomad then a western squid. :p
 
I will through my medical training out here and confirm that if it's above 98 degrees outside you will be cooler by insulating your skin from the outside air unless you have something like an evaporative cooling vest on or soaked compression clothing in cool water. Even then you'll be better off combining something like that with vented textiles, leather or mesh.
 
As been stated before keep yourself hydrated. I keep 2 bottles of water in my tank bag. Keep all of your vents open on your gear and your helmet. This will help greatly.
 
All very good information! I wish more people knew the truth about riding in a t-shirt and shorts. If it's 75 outside then there isn't a problem (aside from crashing, that is). But When it's 90+ degrees out, you gotta cover up! I especially like the frozen camelbak tip that was posted. I usually just refrigerate mine, though, because otherwise you have to wait until it unfreezes to start drinking it :p
 
Noticed something while commuting. Almost everybody on a sport bike or d ual sport had long sleeves and pants today. The ones that didn't were older guys on cruisers. I even had 1 guy and his lady come stumbling into my work today because he was about to pass out.

Jackass was with his Old Lady on a bit of a ride. Pretty sure it was a Harley. He was outside revving the piss out of it for like 5 minutes while he tried to park near the building.

Both had boots, jeans and a leather vest with a tank top underneath. no gloves and the beanie helmet. Anyways, both these people were straight burnt. I felt bad a bit...for like a sec..
Was kindof funny watching the lady tell the guy to "F" off because she was burnt and wanted to go home. I gave them some bottles of water to take with them and off they went after they downed 2 large coffees from Starbucks...

hmm...Waiting to hear/read about the first heat related motorcycle injury.
 
Two suggestions:

1. Regarding the Camelback- night before, fill it half full, then put it in the freezer. Morning of the ride, fill it the rest of the way. It will stay cold for hours, and you'll still have water to drink immediately. I always use SmartWater, because it's electrolite enhanced.

2. Get a neck chiller. Soak it in water, tie it around your neck, and it will stay damp for hours. Really helps to keep you cool, and it lasts for hours.

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One last thing... if you feel thirsty, you are already dehydrated. Do NOT drink soda, do NOT drink coffee- get water in you immediately. And if it's hot, and you know you're going to be going out riding in the heat, start hydrating a couple of days before.
 
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