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TL1000R, any good?

louemc said:
Umm That had slipped my mind. The stock fueling was insane. Could be challenging to start from a stop at an intersection and turn and blend with the other traffic.

When I made my own exhaust I had Dan Kyle manually create the map for it.

He made the fueling dream smooth. Other maps might do it as well. I only know mine.
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I read one review that said you'd either stall it or pull a wheelie, but that was on the S version.

The owner claims it's in pristine condition with everything stock except for the mirrors. I'll probably take a look at it.

Appreciate all the feedback.
 
TheRiddler said:
I read one review that said you'd either stall it or pull a wheelie, but that was on the S version.

The owner claims it's in pristine condition with everything stock except for the mirrors. I'll probably take a look at it.

Appreciate all the feedback.
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That is coming from someone who probably has no idea how to launch a twin.


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The only reason I didn't end up with a new TL-R back in 1999, was because my R1 arrived at the dealership first. :p
 
TeeSnob said:
heard that they have slipper clutch
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Not a true slipper. It also had hydraulic clutch lines and not a cable, which made clutch activation more of an ON/OFF feeling instead of the continuous engagement feeling of a cable lined clutch lever.

I had a TLR about three years ago. I really enjoyed it. It had great ergonomics for me and was easy to log 200+ miles on it. True, it eats rear tires. True, it is not friendly on gas. It is big on fun factor, though.

It came with a rotary damper rear shock, but a fair amount of the bikes out there were switched to Ohlins rear shocks by previous owners. If it's just a commuter/weekend canyon bike, then you needn't worry. If you were trying to compete in AFM, then it should be changed.

I also think the bike has great aesthetics, even in today's stubby exhaust/minimal fairing trend. It's a cool bike. You'll know whether its for you within the first 30 seconds of a test ride.

Here's a picture of my old one before I sold it:

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A common problem that I actually experienced on my bike was the fuel pump gasket breaking down or leaking. FYI.
 
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TheRiddler said:
I read one review that said you'd either stall it or pull a wheelie, but that was on the S version.

The owner claims it's in pristine condition with everything stock except for the mirrors. I'll probably take a look at it.

Appreciate all the feedback.
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Yeah, like Sticka says, whoever said stall was a wuss. Stall isn't in my vocabulary. Ya gas it Ya slip the clutch a little. Ya ride it like You should be on a bike that has some stonk. Whata Ya want? Something a Wuss can't screw up?

Besides it's fixable, so fix it, don't be a cry baby.
 
Honestly... If that's the sort of bike you're looking for... Save up another 1.5k grand. Should score you a pretty nice 2002-2004 RC51. Much better bike for the cash.

Hell, if Honda doesn't make another V4 superbike, I'll probably end up on an RC51. Fantastic bike though.. Dead stable, gear driven cams, and a pretty wicked VTwin engine. People claim they're heavy, but with a little money into it, you can have it down into the 450lbs wet without too much work. A little slice of racing history, too.
 
Sticka said:
That is coming from someone who probably has no idea how to launch a twin.


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Honestly he's right. V-twins and Singles are really easy to stall out at a light, so you have to kind of rev it up to keep it from stalling.

Just for reference, there have been some SV1000s in that price range, and I'd take a sv1k over a tl1000r.
 
I had a 2000 tlr is it was one of the funnest bikes i have owned. Great for commuting back and forth to work.Mine had 2 bros carbon slip ons and sounded awesome. The stance of the bike is just bad ass. I'd get another one in a heartbeat
 
wsmc831 said:
Friend has an 05 black sv1k. Hasn't ridden it since he got a superduke, been collecting dust. I think it would be available for 4500 range if interested.
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Still over a grand over my budget (college students have limited options). Thanks anyway.
 
Nick said:
Not a true slipper. It also had hydraulic clutch lines and not a cable, which made clutch activation more of an ON/OFF feeling instead of the continuous engagement feeling of a cable lined clutch lever.

I had a TLR about three years ago. I really enjoyed it. It had great ergonomics for me and was easy to log 200+ miles on it. True, it eats rear tires. True, it is not friendly on gas. It is big on fun factor, though.

It came with a rotary damper rear shock, but a fair amount of the bikes out there were switched to Ohlins rear shocks by previous owners. If it's just a commuter/weekend canyon bike, then you needn't worry. If you were trying to compete in AFM, then it should be changed.

I also think the bike has great aesthetics, even in today's stubby exhaust/minimal fairing trend. It's a cool bike. You'll know whether its for you within the first 30 seconds of a test ride.

Here's a picture of my old one before I sold it:

bike6v.jpg


EDIT:
A common problem that I actually experienced on my bike was the fuel pump gasket breaking down or leaking. FYI.
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hydraulic clutch means it's binary? wtf? my KTM had one and it was fucking smooth as butter, way nicer than my 929. My dad's Guzzi has one too, and it's certainly smoother than his cable-actuated BMW.

and stalling on singles when taking off? no clue about that.
 
yeah. I was apprehensive about about hydraulic clutches initially, but the one on my hawk works just as well as any cable clutch i've used. Also, requires no adjustment to compensate for cable stretch and is virtually maintenance free.

I would imagine the feel is different on different bikes; the plates, steels, springs, oil, chain wear and the amount of torque being transferred. so YMMV.

I've had a clutch cable break on me, and for the life of me i thought it would never happen, but it did.
 
Sounds like it will all come down to the bike making it's impression, how does it feel to sit on it, and put it into motion.

If stock doesn't feel right, then it's not the right bike. The changes aren't free, and not easy unless the owner has the background (and incentive) to make them.

I don't think the hydraulic clutch is an issue, but the fueling is, in tight traffic. A map to fix that? A serious guy would do it, without blinking. But non-serious, sounds like a problem that isn't needed. The bike (in my opinion) needed quite a lot of set-up to make it, a sweet street bike. Before the set-up it (at times) was quite a handful (not easy).
 
I've owned quite a few bikes. The TLR is the only bike I don't have anymore that I don't miss. Never got used to it, never really liked it all that much.
 
Rumors aside TLs are great bikes but not for everyone. Ride one , you'll love it or hate it. They require a skilled rider so if you're afraid of a challenge look elsewhere.
 
Sticka said:
No, they don't.


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he might be making a joke about the slipping cluctch issue a lot of the TL bikes had. :laughing Several times I would whack the throttle open on a straight only to hear the revs shoot up for a moment before catching again which usully ended up with me getting a surprising view of the sky as I was pointed straight up. Seemed to be a regular problem with many people over on TLPlanet.

I had a TLS, loved it. It wasn't as fast and didn't handle as well as my current bike but the sound and presence of it more than made up for it. Had some fueling issues where it was choppy but that could have been because of the PC3 that it had. From what I remember reading the twitchy handling issue of the S (where it got the widowmaker nickname) as taken care of when the 98 S and R models were released. They always kept that reputation though.

The rotary damper is supposed to be fine for street and general use as well once your bike is adjusted for your style. The S' had a problem with the damper gettng hot because of it's placement in relation to the engine but the R remedied that. The aftermarket set ups are clearly going to be better though of course.
 
blackrat said:
I had a TLS, loved it. It wasn't as fast and didn't handle as well as my current bike but the sound and presence of it more than made up for it.
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Motorcycle Consumer news has the old beast a hair faster than your 675, but I'm quite sure the lighter Triumph is a far better handler.

Ohlins/Lindemann, a convertibar (had to have a custom fairing stay manufactured) and a narrower rear tire on my old 1997 make it handle quite well...but it's still not a "flickable" bike.

Surprised to hear from TLR owners that they required a Power Commander to address fueling issues as well that, I guess, were finally factory sorted on the SV and V'Stroms.

Look forward to hearing the OP's opinions on the test ride regarding fueling and suspension compliance.
 
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