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Traffic complaint process

Marlowe

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Phoenix
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Here's a two pronged question for y'all:

What normally happens when you receive a complaint about traffic in an area? (Enforcement, I realize, but after that? Evaluation by the city, traffic calming devices possibly?) Based on the city's website, the PD appears to handle intake for all traffic complaints, and then forwards things as needed to the traffic engineering office.

Now for the situation. This is my hood. There are many like it, but this one is mine:

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The starred intersection is obviously two major streets, and at times people get impatient, and avoid it using the path in red.

They are aided and abetted by the fact that we are completely devoid of TCDs. I've noted the location of the only stopsign with the hexagon. There are no speed limit signs, and no stop-signs on any of the intermediate intersections (not even facing the side streets, as you'd expect with the intersections with the collector.)

If northeast bound, in particular, this allows them to make a right turn onto the collector, and even that left noted in red, without seeing a single stop sign. To make up time, since they're cutting through residential streets, they like to do this around the 50 mph they'd be doing on the correct path.

(There's a related problem with the lack of TCDs: I've witnessed several PD accidents at those intersections because some of these idiots my neighbors like to roll off the side streets, thinking they don't have to stop or yield.)

This has been an annoyance for a while, but I didn't get really :mad until last night, when I witnessed the saddest thing I've seen in a while: A kitten trying to drag itself across out of the collector street with an apparently broken hip or pelvis, and hind leg. The person that hit them took off.

(Note for animal lovers: We're trying to capture it and get the kitten some care now, but they are feral and holed up pretty good in a hole between roots of a dense pine tree.)

So, obviously I should be as specific as possible about these problems (speed, cut-through, TCDs), with a diagram, but if you were on the receiving end of a traffic complaint like this, is there anything else you'd like included?

Thanks for listening.
 
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wow... arizona is dull... needs some color

;)
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the speed limit 25MPH unless otherwise posted? Not to mention the fact that it's a residential area so I'm sure that's the case. Furthermore, not having a stop sign just means you have to yield to traffic before proceeding.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the speed limit 25MPH unless otherwise posted? Not to mention the fact that it's a residential area so I'm sure that's the case. Furthermore, not having a stop sign just means you have to yield to traffic before proceeding.

Sure sure, but they don't yield, and they sure aren't doing 25 mph. The inevitable happens when someone who is rolling their way through one of the side streets meets someone cutting through a ta high rate of speed. A sign or two might help. (Or, a couple of stop signs, just enough to make it less attractive to cut through.)
 
In two years I've never seen them here working traffic, hence the complaint/engineering request.
 
In two years I've never seen them here working traffic, hence the complaint/engineering request.

They could've at least thrown out a speed trailer or something. Alas, I've complained numerous times to LPD that people are regularly doing 40 MPH down my residential street and that's the most they've ever done. Shit, I've told John many times if he wants a cash-cow of tickets all he'd have to do is sit at the far corner of my street for a few hours and he'd probably be done for the month and get his toaster oven! :banana :laughing
 
Phoenix is a big city, the motors spend most of their time trolling the elementary school zones (15 mph when in session.)

They don't have a ton of resources, but I can hope for at least a stop sign somewhere.
 
You can lay at least 5 sleeping policemen in a day with a cement truck. With the AZ heat, they would be ready for use in a couple hours. (Although you may want to do it at night to avoid having to get permits)
 
You can lay at least 5 sleeping policemen in a day with a cement truck. With the AZ heat, they would be ready for use in a couple hours. (Although you may want to do it at night to avoid having to get permits)

speed bumps, for us american english speakers :)
 
speed bumps, for us american english speakers :)

Americans don't call them that? I thought I have heard it here too, hell, I am American.
 
They'll only do speed humps which most people take at speed, and the process is ridiculous. You even need signatures just to get them to do a pre-speed hump survey.

You need a bunch more signatures to get it approved -- and then you have to pay for it. The city normally has matching funds for that sort of thing, but not right now.

Here's the process, if you're morbidly curious:

http://phoenix.gov/streets/speedhmp.html

I think it'd be much easier to try and talk the engineering folks out of a sign somewhere. It's certainly the approach to try first. They've added a big, flashy, expensive (like 1.2M), stoplit pedestrian crossing nearby after a bunch of people got run over, so it might be possible to get a sign and a post :p
 
They'll only do speed humps which most people take at speed, and the process is ridiculous. You even need signatures just to get them to do a pre-speed hump survey.

:wtf You also have to pay $1200 for each one! Not the City, not the taxpayers, but the residents of the street! You will never get signatures for that. That is why you need to go out on a moonless night and do it yourself.
 
If I had this problem in my neighborhood, I would attend the next city council meeting and bring it up there. I would then work with the traffic engineers and whoever else needs to get involved to get some stop signs installed. But I don't have to do that for my neighborhood because we already have a stop sign every block to slow traffic down. It's never faster to cut through a residential area than to stay on the main street around here.

Alternatively, I would go talk to others in the neighborhood and have them call the police to request traffic enforcement during the hours when the problem is the worst. Usually it only takes a few weeks of writing tickets every day for people to get the message. Then you still need them to come back a couple of times a month.

I don't know if any of this would work in Phoenix, but it would definitely work in Pleasanton.
 
Try speed dips instead of the bumps. Most people can take a bump at speed but you'll notice they slow WAY down for the dips. :D
 
In my old neighborhood in San Jose, the city actually blocked off the right turn onto the residential street in a very similar scenario. The fact that it was a very wealthy area with many multimillion dollar homes probably helped.

This was also in the 80's before San Jose really blew up with the tech industry.
 
Any one of these portable speed bumps might work. And the beauty is, since they are portable, you can put them in your garage after commute hours and if anyone complains, the cops will think they're nuts.
 
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