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The wife is from Amsterdam NY. About 20 mins from crash site. Sure enough, her mom just called her crying. No relatives involved but people they knew. Amsterdam is a very small community of tight knit Italian families.
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Tragic Limo crash in NY
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AbsolutEnduser
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Yep.. something like that.
An article comes out that basically says "yeah it was some business*... and the driver didn't have the appropriate (class of?) license.. and the vehicle had failed (state?) inspections"
Well, I hope no one says "we need less government, and less regulation then"
* - the customers actually changed the rental last minute. TLDR.
the driver didn't have the appropriate (class of?) license.. and the vehicle had failed (state?) inspections"
Well, I hope no one says "we need less government, and less regulation then"
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I wonder if they upgrade the brakes on those things when they do the modification or at least consider the capabilities of the brakes when loaded up with 20 people. I'm sure the NTSB will be looking into this.
mean dad
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Guy her at my work says the vehicle failed 4 out of last 5 inspections...or maybe the company itself had failed 4 of 5 of the last vehicle inspections?
Said they only took that vehicle because the small bus they were scheduled to take had...failed an inspection.
Said they only took that vehicle because the small bus they were scheduled to take had...failed an inspection.
Climber
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Actually, what I read is that the bus they had rented to ride in broke down, so the Limo was a substitution, and apparently it was a total piece of shit, according to a text from one of the riders before the accident. Not clear if the limo company was the same or contacted after the bus broke down.Yep.. something like that.
An article comes out that basically says "yeah it was some business*... and the driver didn't have the appropriate (class of?) license.. and the vehicle had failed (state?) inspections"
Well, I hope no one says "we need less government, and less regulation then"
* - the customers actually changed the rental last minute. TLDR.
Passenger Expressed Concern About Limo Shortly Before Crash Killed 20
Climber
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You can only put so much stopping power through 4 wheels, and from everything I've read so far, it was an uncertified and illegal chop and stretch job.
Brokenlink
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Company has had four vehicles "removed from service". And the bus didn't fail an inspection. It broke down so they had to call a limo at the last minute.
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mean dad
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Four vehicles (possibly out of 5), you say?
Vehicle in crash used as a backup due to unforeseen circumstances, you say?
Got me by the balls.
Vehicle in crash used as a backup due to unforeseen circumstances, you say?
Got me by the balls.
DataDan
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From the Albany Times Union:
Yeah, that's the ticket--must be the intersection.
Google Maps shows view to the stop sign from at least 300yd away.
BTW, I mentioned the San Mateo Bridge limo fire in another post. That was a stretched Lincoln Town Car and it happened in 2013. The fire started when the rear air suspension failed, the driveshaft contacted the tunnel under the passenger compartment, and friction ignited carpet etc. Five women died. A relative sued and was awarded $30M, but Ford Motor Company was found NOT liable for the botched stretch, so the plaintiff has only a broke-ass limo company to collect from.
State Police explore whether negligence factor in fatal crash
The investigation of the limousine crash that killed 20 people in Schoharie is a criminal investigation focused on the owner of the vehicle, State Police said Monday.
State Police said the owner of Prestige Limousine, Shahed Hussain, is in Dubai. Troopers have seized all three of the firm's remaining limousines.
On Monday afternoon, Hussain's son, Nauman Hussain, who has operated the limo company, met with investigators from the State Police's major crimes unit, which is examining whether negligence may have contributed to the deadly incident. Nauman Hussain was accompanied at the interview by his attorney, Lee Kindlon of Albany.
Kindlon declined to comment on the interview but said the state had been aware for years that the intersection where the crash took place is dangerous. He said it's possible the limo company's driver may have been unfamiliar with the roadway and misjudged his ability to stop as he descended Route 30 toward the intersection of Route 30A.
The investigation of the limousine crash that killed 20 people in Schoharie is a criminal investigation focused on the owner of the vehicle, State Police said Monday.
State Police said the owner of Prestige Limousine, Shahed Hussain, is in Dubai. Troopers have seized all three of the firm's remaining limousines.
On Monday afternoon, Hussain's son, Nauman Hussain, who has operated the limo company, met with investigators from the State Police's major crimes unit, which is examining whether negligence may have contributed to the deadly incident. Nauman Hussain was accompanied at the interview by his attorney, Lee Kindlon of Albany.
Kindlon declined to comment on the interview but said the state had been aware for years that the intersection where the crash took place is dangerous. He said it's possible the limo company's driver may have been unfamiliar with the roadway and misjudged his ability to stop as he descended Route 30 toward the intersection of Route 30A.
Yeah, that's the ticket--must be the intersection.
Google Maps shows view to the stop sign from at least 300yd away.
BTW, I mentioned the San Mateo Bridge limo fire in another post. That was a stretched Lincoln Town Car and it happened in 2013. The fire started when the rear air suspension failed, the driveshaft contacted the tunnel under the passenger compartment, and friction ignited carpet etc. Five women died. A relative sued and was awarded $30M, but Ford Motor Company was found NOT liable for the botched stretch, so the plaintiff has only a broke-ass limo company to collect from.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/08/...tion=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage
“The owner of the limousine company, Shahed Hussain, has the same name and address as that of a former informant for the F.B.I. who has testified in two prominent terrorism cases, according to public records.”
“The owner of the limousine company, Shahed Hussain, has the same name and address as that of a former informant for the F.B.I. who has testified in two prominent terrorism cases, according to public records.”
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rebekahlynn
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4 sisters... I have 5 myself 
so sad
so sad
Brokenlink
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I thought I was in the postwhore thread. Sorry, this was a bit inappropriate.
AbsolutEnduser
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Wow... this is "funny": I didn't know stretch-limos are basically exempt from some vehicle standards!!! 
... that explains while the longer stretched-out ones always looked weird as in "how come this one is not breaking in the middle" ...
... that explains while the longer stretched-out ones always looked weird as in "how come this one is not breaking in the middle" ...https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/08/...ick&contentCollection=New York&pgtype=article
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dravnx
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Owner's son has been charged with criminally negligent homicide. That's some really fast prosecution.
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Climber
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Definitely should be consequences like this.
Too bad that people who do things like this aren't held accountable more often, there would be less negligent shit happening if that was the case.
One pet peeve is assholes who don't properly fasten things like ladders on their trucks properly. We've lost several riders over the years to that kind of negligence.
DataDan
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Arrest is NOT prosecution.
In this case, the suspect's quick arrest for negligent homicide seems to be a decision made to keep him from joining Dad (owner of the limo company) overseas and out of reach. Can't fault NYSP for that.
Sometimes that kind of haste works out terribly unfairly. I know of two cases where a driver involved in a fatal motorcycle crash was arrested on a trumped-up drug charge to keep him from fleeing--presumably to Mexico. In neither case was the drug charge upheld, but that didn't reimburse the driver for jail time or the lawyer who eventually cleared him.
In this case, the suspect's quick arrest for negligent homicide seems to be a decision made to keep him from joining Dad (owner of the limo company) overseas and out of reach. Can't fault NYSP for that.
Sometimes that kind of haste works out terribly unfairly. I know of two cases where a driver involved in a fatal motorcycle crash was arrested on a trumped-up drug charge to keep him from fleeing--presumably to Mexico. In neither case was the drug charge upheld, but that didn't reimburse the driver for jail time or the lawyer who eventually cleared him.