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Two lane splitting

NorCalBusa

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Sorry if this has been covered, I couldn't find that it was.

One lane each direction, solid yellow in your lane, ample room on either side of same direction cars to get by w/out crossing yellow or solid white. Is it a violation?

(Assume the speed limit and delta are followed).
 
The definition of splitting is between two lanes in same direction.

If that is not the case, how do you define the action?

An illegal pass?
 
Lane splitting is sharing a lane with another vehicle and not splitting between 2 lanes. If there is space to pass safely in one lane each direction, then you can split that lane.
 
Under 21754, that would be illegal outside of a business or residence district if done on the right.
 
21658.1.
(a) For the purposes of this section, “lane splitting” means driving a motorcycle, as defined in Section 400, that has two wheels in contact with the ground, between rows of stopped or moving vehicles in the same lane, including on both divided and undivided streets, roads, or highways.

(b) The Department of the California Highway Patrol may develop educational guidelines relating to lane splitting in a manner that would ensure the safety of the motorcyclist and the drivers and passengers of the surrounding vehicles.

(c) In developing guidelines pursuant to this section, the department shall consult with agencies and organizations with an interest in road safety and motorcyclist behavior, including, but not limited to, all of the following:

(1) The Department of Motor Vehicles.

(2) The Department of Transportation.

(3) The Office of Traffic Safety.

(4) A motorcycle organization focused on motorcyclist safety.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=VEH&sectionNum=21658.1

It's a definition to allow guidelines only. It is defined as between rows of stopped and moving vehicles. However, there is no enforceable section called lane splitting, or lane sharing. So, really, nothing has changed in regards to sharing with another vehicle in a single lane in one direction. If the rider does something that constitutes a violation of the vehicle code while doing so, they could be stopped and cited. If not, then no. Nothing has changed beyond recommended guidelines.
 
I can’t imagine any LEO would NOT cite you for passing other car(s) on a single-lane, yellow-striped road - regardless of whether you actually “crossed” the lane marker or not.

Filtering to the front of stopped cars in line for a StopSign or Lights in a city/residential area, no problem.

Nice 10:00 wheelie avatar...:thumbup
 
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...It is defined as between rows of stopped and moving vehicles. However, there is no enforceable section called lane splitting, or lane sharing. So, really, nothing has changed in regards to sharing with another vehicle in a single lane in one direction. If the rider does something that constitutes a violation of the vehicle code while doing so, they could be stopped and cited. If not, then no. Nothing has changed beyond recommended guidelines.

Why do our lawmakers struggle so much with simple grammar?

It is defined as between rows of stopped and moving vehicles in the same lane...

What's in the same lane? The rows of stopped or moving vehicles in the same lane, or the vehicles and the MC in the same lane? It does not seem you could have the latter without a comma.

Regardless, I understand about the enforcement section, but couldn't the charge be unsafe splitting, citing the section, because you weren't following the definition of splitting?

And then, I don't know how it was like anyway, since it was always vague, and still is. For example, I see no reason cars cannot split or share with other cars (or MCs) if the lane was wide enough.
 
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Why do our lawmakers struggle so much with simple grammar?

It is defined as between rows of stopped and moving vehicles in the same lane...

What's in the same lane? The rows of stopped or moving vehicles in the same lane, or the vehicles and the MC in the same lane? It does not seem you could have the latter without a comma.

Regardless, I understand about the enforcement section, but couldn't the charge be unsafe splitting, citing the section, because you weren't following the definition of splitting?

No. There's no charge of unsafe splitting. It's not an enforceable section. One could be cited for something else, if it applied, just like before. Possible charges could be unsafe speed, passing on the right, or lane straddling, if any of those applied.

And then, I don't know how it was like anyway, since it was always vague, and still is. For example, I see no reason cars cannot split or share with other cars (or MCs) if the lane was wide enough.

There are times when cars, trucks, and SUVs do this. The law allows for passing on the right, for example, when the car in front is turning left or waiting to turn. That is a form of lane sharing. In my area, I'm familiar with a couple streets with extra wide lanes. There are times when two vehicles are driving side by side up to the stop sign, as one will be turning left or going straight and the other will be turning right. They are sharing the lane. As long as there is room, there is no law that prohibits sharing a lane in California.
 
There are times when cars, trucks, and SUVs do this. The law allows for passing on the right, for example, when the car in front is turning left or waiting to turn. That is a form of lane sharing. In my area, I'm familiar with a couple streets with extra wide lanes. There are times when two vehicles are driving side by side up to the stop sign, as one will be turning left or going straight and the other will be turning right. They are sharing the lane. As long as there is room, there is no law that prohibits sharing a lane in California.

This is one of my pet peeves - in my neighborhood there is an intersection where a lot of people make a left turn - you can either go straight through, or turn left, and the roadway is wide enough for cars to pass the left turner on the right. But the vast majority of the left turners end up taking up ALL the roadway while waiting to make their turn. I've actually seen people almost brush the right-hand curb while making the left turn! :mad
 
Step 1: Don't be an ass, attracting the LEOs attention. Unless he's cranky, you'll be pretty OK.

Step 2: Pull over politely, smoothly, and predictably if Step 1 fails.

Step 3: Be very polite with the officer and past the Personality Test. (Don't be an asshole) He knows the code for which he's pulling you over. The time to argue it is not on the side of the road.

Step 4: Accept that sometimes you'll pay a fine for doing things. Sign the ticket and handle whatever way you prefer.
 
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