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What inline 4 riders know that twin or thumper riders would never know ....

Topped-out inline 4's sound sweet...at the track. On the street with :squid's revving out their crap-tastic TBR-equipped R6's, not so much. :thumbdown

V-twins with a booming (but not too loud) exhaust note give me a woody. :p

^ this.

I've owned singles, various twins, a triple and I4s too (at one point had one of each at once).

I prefer twins primarily for the sound, and I like the power curve better too. The I4 rush is a thrill, but it comes closer to the point when one is supposed to be braking. So I always feel like I have to shut down the power right when it's getting fun, rather than after the peak is reached and power is tapering on a twin. Of course using a lower gear helps solve that, but then I always feel like the whole experience is high-strung.

That said, I4s have their appeal. They're smooth, and on larger displacement versions the wide range of ride-able RPMs can be fun.

I don't buy into the notion that you have to wind up an I4 to make power. Maybe for a 600, but an open-class I4 like an S1000rr makes plenty of torque at modest RPMs.
 
I've owned I4, V-twin (90 degree and 60 degree) and I3 bikes. I liked them all very, very, very much. Yes, that is three verys and it applies to them all.

If I was a better track rider I'd probably love the I4.

My favorite is the Triumph I3; just seems to fit me the best. I don't think it is intrinsically better than anything else, it just suits me better than anything else I've tried.
 
I'm finding myself riding my favorite backroads on my Duc as I did on either my GSXR or my CBR. Thing is, I'm more relaxed...don't have to stir the shifter, I basically just leave it in one gear and roll on the throttle. There's so much engine braking I can essentially close the throttle and slow down sufficiently without having to touch the brakes. The more upright riding position also accounts for some of the lowered level of drama when I wick it up a little.
 
2 stroke single, check
2 stroke twin, check
2 stroke triple, check
4 stroke single, check
4 stroke twin, v-twin, boxer twin, check, check and check
4 stroke triple, nope
4 stroke four, check

Guess what, they are all good.

Yeah but do you have one of these? :teeth

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I'm finding myself riding my favorite backroads on my Duc as I did on either my GSXR or my CBR. Thing is, I'm more relaxed...don't have to stir the shifter, I basically just leave it in one gear and roll on the throttle. There's so much engine braking I can essentially close the throttle and slow down sufficiently without having to touch the brakes.
FUCKIN-A BUBBA
Wider torque RPM range+high engine braking=Less shit to think about when riding, allowing you to devote more attention to other things.
For those of you who doubt the difference in torque, just look at the comparison of the 2012 superbikes. The twins' superiority in torque is one of the main reasons I bought the KTM.
12sb_track_torqueDyno.jpg


I started riding on I4s and eventually graduated to a literbike. I always had a shit ton of fun, but didn't start to really LOVE riding till I got my RC51. I found that a low end grunt turns my crank much more pleasingly than a high end buzz. It just has a much calmer vibe to me.
 
No I4's in the 8's? There are stock bikes in the high 8's with the right rider. Plenty of street bikes in the 7's. :)

Nonsense unless they've messed with ride heights and other drag racing tricks that render a bike useless on the street.

Ricky Gadsen got 10.05 with the latest ZX10 before he had to replace the clutch.

With a new clutch he go 9.93.

http://www.cycleworld.com/videos/po...e_2011_kawasaki_zx-10r/?tag=land-speed-record

With changed intake, sprockets, ride height, shocks etc. they got 9.40.
 
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The sound of an I4 bugs the shit out of me. Up until a few years ago, all my bikes were I4s because my budget was UJM. Then I got an SV650, and a KTM thumper.

I like pretty much anything but an I4 'cuz they don't whine. Sure I4s are arguably the best engine for racing. But who the fuck cares?
 
Nonsense unless they've messed with ride heights and other drag racing tricks that render a bike useless on the street.

Ricky Gadsen got 10.05 with the latest ZX10 before he had to replace the clutch.

With a new clutch he go 9.93.

http://www.cycleworld.com/videos/po...e_2011_kawasaki_zx-10r/?tag=land-speed-record

With changed intake, sprockets, ride height, shocks etc. they got 9.40.

I'm not sure if you noticed but Kawasaki has a 1441 zx14r out also.


As far as useless I guess it depends on the use. I have no problem using a bike set up for the strip.

The '12 10 is faster also. :thumbup
 
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FUCKIN-A BUBBA
Wider torque RPM range+high engine braking=Less shit to think about when riding, allowing you to devote more attention to other things.
For those of you who doubt the difference in torque, just look at the comparison of the 2012 superbikes. The twins' superiority in torque is one of the main reasons I bought the KTM.
12sb_track_torqueDyno.jpg


I started riding on I4s and eventually graduated to a literbike. I always had a shit ton of fun, but didn't start to really LOVE riding till I got my RC51. I found that a low end grunt turns my crank much more pleasingly than a high end buzz. It just has a much calmer vibe to me.



FJR = 99.1 lbs/ft @ 7000 rpm from Wikipedia
FJR = 102.1 lbs/ft new 2013 as tested by MCN in the UK
FJR = 91.2 @ 7100 rpm most recent dyno test from Rider

...and it's just a detuned "sport touring" engine.

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FJR = 99.1 lbs/ft @ 7000 rpm from Wikipedia
FJR = 102.1 lbs/ft new 2013 as tested by MCN in the UK
FJR = 91.2 @ 7100 rpm most recent dyno test from Rider

...and it's just a detuned "sport touring" engine.

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2013 FJR weight=639 lbs.
Have fun with that pig.
 
Lets test the waters with this one just for fun. Besides I don't know how to link it.

And with regards to gravity, I have spent some time trying to figure out just where the physics do work in this situation. Gravity vs Braking vs Youth? In any event I think we can say it's all good.

By a vote of 10 to zero, the Mods have voted to suspend Mr. Kahn for posting nudity.

See you in 7 days.
 
Hang with me sometime for a 10 day ride on any of those bikes you charted.

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I ain't got that much vacation time...how 'bout you come out to T-hill on the 9th and teach this noob how to ride?
 
I ain't got that much vacation time...how 'bout you come out to T-hill on the 9th and teach this noob how to ride?

LOL. Different ways to enjoy bikes (which was sort of my point) ... and I have not one doubt in my little head that an RC8 would be a kick ass bike on the track.

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Actually, the FJR is geared pretty tall

...and regarding that roll on challenge with a new MultiStrada.... well, uh, I was actually hoping Multi owners might not respond. No deal, Ducati has a nice bike in that one.

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Yeah, on a long lonesome highway, the Budman blew by me on hiz Multi. Figured I'd just reel him in like any other silly little twin; butt nope, he just motored away. :cry Dunno wut a top gear roll on would be like, butt I duz know them ducs got sum legs. :ride

^ Banjoboy took his fjr in the dirt like a badass. :hail
'N rail the goat trailz too, using the incredible torques the FJR haz. :party Butt, I'm just a sissy bitch poser compared to this guy... :cool
 
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