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What Is It About Acceleration?

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This has been posted before but after watching it again I came up with a question:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpaLgF1uLB8

What is it about acceleration that really excites everyone who experiences it? From the beginning of the age of motorized vehicles there has been a constant quest to generate maximum acceleration in vehicles of all types. Quarter mile drag racing has maximum acceleration at the heart of the event.

If just speed changes were exciting, one would see maximum braking competition alongside maximum acceleration competition but that is not the case.

I'm just curious as to the human aspect of the euphoria generated by getting launched at warp speed. I have to admit this is one of the main reasons for owning my FJR and I can see why the V-Max has a strong following.

The senses seem to crave this experience, any idea why?

Dan
 
In some brains, the inner ear's accelerometer is jumpered directly to the pleasure center. I am one of those so afflicted.

I remember my first roller coaster ride. I remember my first jet airliner takeoff. I remember at age 13 going for a ride with the neighborhood ne'er-do-well in his brand new 1962 Chevy 409. I remember a ride on Grizzly Peak in a Mini Cooper (back in the day, the real thing) with a rally driver acquaintance. I remember a ride on the back of a friend's 1979 CBX (a few months later I bought my first motorcycle).

Of all the people in that video, the last one--the black woman--is the one whose reaction is most like mine.
 
In some brains, the inner ear's accelerometer is jumpered directly to the pleasure center. I am one of those so afflicted.

I remember my first roller coaster ride. I remember my first jet airliner takeoff. I remember at age 13 going for a ride with the neighborhood ne'er-do-well in his brand new 1962 Chevy 409. I remember a ride on Grizzly Peak in a Mini Cooper (back in the day, the real thing) with a rally driver acquaintance. I remember a ride on the back of a friend's 1979 CBX (a few months later I bought my first motorcycle).

Of all the people in that video, the last one--the black woman--is the one whose reaction is most like mine.

:thumbup I think that is core... :thumbup
 
The attraction of acceleration is that their is speed as an aftermath. Not so much speed, but the sense of velocity and freedom. Imagine being launched into the air.

Nobody enjoys stopping, as it just shows they're still anchored to this rock.

Having just been to the NHRA finals, I wouldn't say that it's about acceleration. As a spectator, you really don't see acceleration, at least not what we view as acceleration. Rather, the cars are stopped, the tree blinks, and they are going. Obviously they accelerate, but they accelerate to probably 80-85% of their top speed very quickly, and as a rule, the acceleration happening later in the run simply isn't perceivable by a spectator (at least not me).

What is apparent, is these things are just flying down that track.

To bring this to motorcycles, one of my favorite memories was watching Superbike at Miller.

From our stands just before the final turn, you could watch the bikes dip in to the turn, and then start their run down that HUGE straight. You'd watch the bikes as they'd tip back upright, and the riders tuck in, pour on the power, and start upshifting. Even more exciting was when you watch how the guy in front (Biaggi, typically, with that Aprillia power) pull the guys behind him like tin cans.

I'm not even in the seat at my heart sings in tune with the motors as they fly down that straight. What's exciting is they going quite slowly exiting that turn, and then they roared right up towards top speed that they could get at the altitude. Not just one rider, but all of them, some of them faster than the others. it's a long pull, a deep breath, to the top before the heads pop up, the fronts crouch down under braking, and the knees pop up read for the turn.

The acceleration is part of it, it's the part we feel. We don't feel velocity once we're there. We simply perceive it in relation to others. I'm going 1000MPH just sitting in the chair, plus however fast the Earth is orbiting the Sun, plus however fast the Sun is dancing through the Milky Way. But, I don't feel any of it. I don't sense it.

When I tried skydiving, it was the same thing. It was completely underwhelming to me.

You jump out of the plane, but theres no real "stomach" drop that you'd think you'd get, since you're not standing still. You're already going 120MPH forward, so that, slowly, decelerates as you transition to 100MPH of vertical terminal velocity.

So there you are, going 100MPH in the air and what does it feel like? Nothing at all. It feels like a cold wind in your face, but you have no sense of speed, as there's nothing to contrast it too. The horizon and ground are simply to far away. Only if you fall past someone who has already popped the chute would you have any real sense of speed. Otherwise, it's just a cold wind.

Contrast that to what those guys who ride skateboards down hills, or in that 'Out of Nothing' movie, setting speed records with their heads 1 foot off the ground. That's speed on steroids. That's "you can kiss the asphalt speed".

The acceleration is a thrill, especially in that video of giving those rides, because the passengers are not in control. They don't know how hard it will hit, or when it will end, or whether the driver is going to crater them in to an abutment for flying too fast down a city street.

As they say, "Faster, faster until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death".

But in your hand, when you do it, when you have the throttle, it's different. It's power in your hand. It's speed at your control. It's exciting getting there, but being at speed is I think the reward folks are after.
 
In some brains, the inner ear's accelerometer is jumpered directly to the pleasure center. I am one of those so afflicted.
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Maybe? I got into racing because I knew something bad was coming over my desire to accelerate on the street. The track became my proving ground. After acceleration came braking. Which is another high in itself. And then dragging shit through a corner. Nothing like going through tech and having the guy look at your last inch of peg and the can(s) showing a certain angle of beveling. Whole package, accel, decel, bevel?
 
Interesting, 'cause I don't ride like that at all. I *love* a bike that accelerates and brakes well, but my greatest enjoyment comes when I can progress down a given section of road with minimal throttle and brake adjustments, just quick transitions from straights into corners.

Not fast, but quick. I don't get any real "charge" out of gassing it to 100mph on a short straight, just to slam brakes like crazy for a 50mph corner entrance. But I do find immense satisfaction out of arriving at a corner entrance at exactly the best [for me] entrance speed, executing that corner quickly and cleanly, and then onto the next.

Kinda hard to describe the technique, but it makes for a nice "spirited" but not fast sport ride. It's a street ride, not a track ride.
 
I can only answer for myself, but what it gives me is that adrenaline rush. I'm not even a speed demon by any measure of the sense, but just the raw power to weight ratio and how it effortlessly surges forward is so cool.
 
Just feels GREAT!
Don't know what else to say.
 
I can only answer for myself, but what it gives me is that adrenaline rush..(snip)..just the raw power to weight ratio and how it effortlessly surges forward is so cool.

this sums it up pretty well for me. it isn't about the speed itself (and the impending associated need to jump on the brakes at some point in the future), it's more about that rush (and the sound) that comes with a surge of acceleration, and then easing off afterwards.

i can't lie that i DO have a bit of a lead foot/hand, but it isn't the speed itself. it's the feel of the G forces..both acceleration and corners. for me, it doesn't matter what i'm riding or driving, i look at things like freeway ramps as opportunities.
 
I will never forget the first time I rode a fast sportbike. It was 1988 and I was on my friend's '87 GSX-R750, one of the fastest bikes in history up to that point (on that day I owned a Honda VTR250 which only had 27 hp so I had no idea what acceleration felt like).

I rode around slow on the 750 for a few minutes, then decided to do WFO. When I did that, something happened that I was not prepared for.... the acceleration G-forces caused me to slide backwards on the seat unexpectedly, and my arms were fully extended just trying to hang on. This meant I could not hold myself forward enough to roll off the throttle. So I kept accelerating when I didn't want to keep accelerating. I wanted to slow down.

It was pretty much the "whiskey throttle" situation of a dirtbike except I was not bouncing over rocks or roots in the dirt, I was on flat smooth pavement. And yet still had whiskey throttle due to my first-ever experience of sportbike acceleration.

So after a few seconds I was able to get hold of myself, and use my legs to push me forward slightly so I could roll off the gas (or maybe I hit the rev limiter in 1st gear?). I was laughing in my helmet after that...and a little bit shaken.

After feeling that level of acceleration, I was hooked.
 
When I tried skydiving, it was the same thing. It was completely underwhelming to me.

You jump out of the plane, but theres no real "stomach" drop that you'd think you'd get, since you're not standing still. You're already going 120MPH forward, so that, slowly, decelerates as you transition to 100MPH of vertical terminal velocity.

So there you are, going 100MPH in the air and what does it feel like? Nothing at all. It feels like a cold wind in your face, but you have no sense of speed, as there's nothing to contrast it too. The horizon and ground are simply to far away. Only if you fall past someone who has already popped the chute would you have any real sense of speed. Otherwise, it's just a cold wind.

I was going to bring up skydiving since I am a veteran with several decades of parachuting experience.

The vertical acceleration from an aircraft is more a sensation of weightlessness than any "force" of acceleration even though acceleration is exactly what is happening. From zero to 120mph in about 10-12 seconds is dramatic but there is no sense of acceleration force at all.

So the ascension to speed is not the exhilarating part but the force of acceleration is. Physiologically, the push is the fascination, not the attainment of speed necessarily.

I just wonder why the body rejoices in this sensation. Everybody loves it whether they are sport vehicle minded or not. Interesting.

Dan
 
Torque has to enter into it as well.
A velvet smooth K1200RS BMW has horsepower, but a Kaw ZRX1200 has torque.
The torque gives you the pucker and allows the front end to skim the pavement when entering the freeway on cloverleaf on ramps.
My AHRMA Z1 was first built with the wrong Andrews cams. It was like a big two stroke. Truly nothing down low, then a huge hit of horsepower making it very hard to ride.
Changed to a Megacycle torque cam set and it became very much like the ZRX. Almost any speed, any gear, it just pulls! T1 at B/W, it will spin the rear wheel up if I'm not careful.
That's fun power !
 
I love my REX for that reason, it's like to much fun.
 
Like others, I had the same experience skydiving. At the time, I was about 3 years into riding. I went with my wife (girlfriend at the time). I came off the jump feeling extremely disappointed as there was absolutely no sensation of acceleration. I vowed that day that I'd never do that again, unless there was a wing suit with my name on it waiting for me at the airplane.

As riders we are more accustomed to acceleration and to a degree, get numb to it compared to most of the public.
 
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