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What went wrong?

rojocorsa

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What did he do wrong?

I like watching the crash videos from this channel for educational purposes (and he's also got just cool bike vids).

Usually there's descriptions of what went wrong but there wasn't one for this video.

And I see many guys who I guess lean over too much and end up lowsiding.

What gets them into this situation and how can one avoid it?

**IDK if I am allowed to post others' crashes here, if you must remove this thread so be it. I just posted it here because Im finally starting to take corners with a little more confidence and I don't want to crash either!
 
The mohawk and bare skin were affecting the rear tire so as he accelerated, the rear went faster than the front. :thumbup :laughing
 
It looks to me like he applied too much throttle and overwhelmed the rear, creating a slide he could not recover from.
 
he added throttle without subtracting lean angle while already close to the limit of traction.
 
Yep I'd say he throttled too hard too early without standing the bike up at all, so there were no points available for traction... Good thing he didn't high side

But why did that happen? It's completely possible to throttle out of the turn at that point, the guys in front of him probably even did it. Why couldn't he? And what can you do to not do the same?

The key here, from the looks of it, is body position. His bp sucks, notice how his butt is barely off the seat at 10 seconds in the video, his outside arm is still straight and barely bent at the elbow, and his inside elbow is not bent at all. His head is in line with the center of the bike, whereas with that kind of a lean angle he should be trying to kiss his mirror and drop his elbows.

If he had used his center of gravity via body position to help turn the bike, he would've had severely less lean angle and throttling a bit harder a bit earlier would be no problem due to the available traction.

So, point being, if you don't want to do this, either use body position or lean less. OR stand the bike up as much as you can before or as you gradually add throttle.
 
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So, point being, if you don't want to do this, use body position and lean less. AND stand the bike up as much as you can, as you gradually add throttle.

FTFY. no "or"s, all "and"s

dont forget, when you get on the throttle is just as important as how much throttle u use. adding throttle too early forces u to attempt to tighten your line, no matter how good your body position is. being patient and waiting until you can safely increase your radius allows u to fully commit to the throttle.
 
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The mohawk is actually a sign of a serious brain hemorrhage, resulting in his unfortunate choices in body position, throttle control and clothing.
 
throttle too early and how new were the tires..........has he had it that far over on them prior
 
The sleeveless shirt and mohawk affected his center of gravity.
 
Crash truck on hand.?

Amazing luck huh.:laughing

Sleeveless..... Really??
 
He's got bawls riding like that with no jacket ....
Is that a flared uphill corner? Everyone always eats it there in these videos ...
There has to be something about that corner's dynamics that are not typical. Not to mention, I have this feeling that sand is accumulating on the road where riders are losing it.

Lastly, wth... Is that good for the bike to transport it on its side?
 
I love that he was helped by four guys in full gear. Really adds to his lack of judgment in outfit choice.

He's got bawls riding like that with no jacket ....
Is that a flared uphill corner? Everyone always eats it there in these videos ...
There has to be something about that corner's dynamics that are not typical. Not to mention, I have this feeling that sand is accumulating on the road where riders are losing it.

Lastly, wth... Is that good for the bike to transport it on its side?

The corner is off camber, and reducing. It normally just takes out showboating n00bs though.
 
The mohawk and bare skin were affecting the rear tire so as he accelerated, the rear went faster than the front. :thumbup :laughing

Clearly his "front" is much slower than his rear... :laughing

Throttle-up sounded easy and smooth, just too much.
 
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He's got bawls riding like that with no jacket ....
Is that a flared uphill corner? Everyone always eats it there in these videos ...
There has to be something about that corner's dynamics that are not typical. Not to mention, I have this feeling that sand is accumulating on the road where riders are losing it.

There's nothing wrong with that corner. Thousands of motorcyclists have ridden through it without issue. The reasons some have gone down there have already largely been discussed in the past, to include in this thread.

Lastly, wth... Is that good for the bike to transport it on its side?

It's already fucked up on that side anyway. I doubt he was doing anything worse.
 
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Lastly, wth... Is that good for the bike to transport it on its side?

oil would prob seep past one piston and ud get more oil in the airbox. if u tried to fire the engine the second u got it home, it prob wouldnt run well at all.
 
The rubber only guess so far over. He added throttle, increased his lean angle, and lost it.

Oh, and there was a camera there. So he had to look good for the camera.
 
nothing wrong/weird with that corner.

bad riding, bad suspension (settings) , bad tires (psi and tread). no brains.
 
Pretty much what Jason said. Personally, I can't see spending much time looking at that channel. I'd rather watch people do it right than do it wrong. YMMV.
 
Posing too late, too much awesome too early, not enough yut-guh....
 
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