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Why doesn't SCOOT rent their own parking spots?

Would it work to move one of the neighborhood motorcycles into a spot as soon as one of them leaves it?

Take back the motorcycle parking spots one at a time...
 
The same thing is happening with Blazing Saddles over here in Ghiradelli Square. There are VERY limited parking spots, and they take up entire spots with their little golf carts that are licensed/plated but have no parking permit. Very Frustrating!
 
I sometimes walk at night carrying an icepick and fall down near things like those scooters.
 
They're a competitor of ours. Feel free to do what you want to their scooters. :teeth
 
So the city wants more spots to be taken up by rideshares. Thus, this is an issue with the city of SF policies and not by ridesharing companies.

How exactly is this Scoot's fault?
 
Yesterday I had to go to SF to visit a friend of mine that lives on 3rd avenue.
I noticed a bunch of little red scooters with the "scoot" on the side.
I was wondering if it was a business that was just parking them on the street..
I was in my car and the spots they were taking were too small for me to park in so I didn't think much of it but if I had my moto I might have been pissed that a business was taking the spots of the people that live around there, causing them an inconvenience.
Had I known there was an issue here.. might have gently put one down as a statement of "GTFO and go to a parking garage!!!" Lol
 
There's a big difference between "parking" and storage. Scoot appears to be 'storing' their vehicles on public property. 72hr SFMTA limit I'm sure is there for the convenience of residents, but it's obviously being taken advantage of by Scoot.

Does Scoot regularly move their scoots every 3 days or is it usually longer?
 
aren't those scoot things technically electric bicycles, and thus can actually park at bicycle parking spots?
 
you may perform your very own parking survey/improvement program:

1 can grey paint [matching sidewalk color]

1 can white paint [matching stall dividers color]

2 1x4x96 wood strips for straightness

then you're GOLDEN !!
 
EjGlows said:
We've already had a lot of communication with the Dir. of Trans. :facepalm
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Nice brush off from Mr. Reiskin. Jeez.

I'd contact him again and continue the dialog asking how to go about changing the existing regulations for those spaces to make them accessible for motorcycle owners. One could argue that residents who are motorcycle owners are making even more of a commitment to "reduced household transportation costs, reduced private vehicle ownership (meaning fewer neighbors cars parked on a given block), reduced vehicle miles travelled and associated greenhouse gas emissions and reduced roadway congestion" than Scoot and deserve consideration.
 
Guess I haven't been to SF enough as I had no idea what you were talking about.

Their website info does not jibe with reality it would seem.

Amazing that Parking Enforcement is ok with this.

"Scoots are parked in garages and at transit hubs all around San Francisco."

http://www.scootnetworks.com/
 
I think h8ing on Scoot taking up space is just h8ing on private business :x

People just love to do that for some reason. :x

:laughing
Basically, it's obvious there should be the same approach as it is towards a for-hire car-service that takes your roads and parking spaces and/or big buses that take public stops.

Personally I thought San Francisco is the Bay Area city with the biggest number of moto spots ever.. of any city around. And the scooters don't affect me much, but I can see how can there logically be a concern.
 
DogBoy said:
I'd contact him again and continue the dialog asking how to go about changing the existing regulations for those spaces to make them accessible for motorcycle owners. One could argue that residents who are motorcycle owners are making even more of a commitment to "reduced household transportation costs, reduced private vehicle ownership (meaning fewer neighbors cars parked on a given block), reduced vehicle miles travelled and associated greenhouse gas emissions and reduced roadway congestion" than Scoot and deserve consideration.
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I think both are a good thing - whether you own it or rent it, it's taking a car out of traffic. Is it possible to band together with Scoot to highlight to the city that there is increased demand for two-wheeled transport in SF, whether owned or shared, and more spots should be converted from passenger vehicles to moto?
 
ohio said:
I think both are a good thing - whether you own it or rent it, it's taking a car out of traffic. Is it possible to band together with Scoot to highlight to the city that there is increased demand for two-wheeled transport in SF, whether owned or shared, and more spots should be converted from passenger vehicles to moto?
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Good point and a good approach. I was just struck by the response praising the scooter rental agency for benefits motorcycle owners have been providing for decades.
 
Is it cool to vandalize a motorbike if, instead of having one proud owner, the bike is shared by thousands of San Franciscans, mostly people who live or work within a block or two of wherever the bike is parked?

That's what a scoot is. A moped shared by your neighbors so they can get where they need to go for a few bucks, without waiting for the bus, without shelling out for a taxi, and most importantly without owning their own parking-space-occupying bike or car. Some Scoot locations are used by over 100 different people a month.

I run Scoot. I started this business to make it easier for people to ride. Folks who already own motorbikes don't need our help with that and may even wish that no one else in SF would take up riding so that parking won't get worse.

We make parking easier by helping people share bikes, and we are lobbying the city for thousands of new motorbike parking spaces that everyone can use.

At $2 a ride we may not be making a profit, and on 30 MPH electric mopeds we definitely aren't badass motorcyclists, but please, please don't damage our vehicles. The next person to get on that scoot isn't going to be some faceless corporate scapegoat. It will be someone who lives around the corner, doesn't have their own bike, and needs to get somewhere safely.
 
this one is a good one.. Good on you for showing up. Pls there is also a newbie forum. ;) J/k
 
michaelkeating said:
Is it cool to vandalize a motorbike if, instead of having one proud owner, the bike is shared by thousands of San Franciscans, mostly people who live or work within a block or two of wherever the bike is parked?

That's what a scoot is. A moped shared by your neighbors so they can get where they need to go for a few bucks, without waiting for the bus, without shelling out for a taxi, and most importantly without owning their own parking-space-occupying bike or car. Some Scoot locations are used by over 100 different people a month.

I run Scoot. I started this business to make it easier for people to ride. Folks who already own motorbikes don't need our help with that and may even wish that no one else in SF would take up riding so that parking won't get worse.

We make parking easier by helping people share bikes, and we are lobbying the city for thousands of new motorbike parking spaces that everyone can use.

At $2 a ride we may not be making a profit, and on 30 MPH electric mopeds we definitely aren't badass motorcyclists, but please, please don't damage our vehicles. The next person to get on that scoot isn't going to be some faceless corporate scapegoat. It will be someone who lives around the corner, doesn't have their own bike, and needs to get somewhere safely.
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God forbid two wheels becomes the backbone of a city's transportation system. Gosh that would just suck for... uh... someone... not me... but yeah...
 
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michaelkeating said:
Is it cool to vandalize a motorbike if, instead of having one proud owner, the bike is shared by thousands of San Franciscans, mostly people who live or work within a block or two of wherever the bike is parked?

That's what a scoot is. A moped shared by your neighbors so they can get where they need to go for a few bucks, without waiting for the bus, without shelling out for a taxi, and most importantly without owning their own parking-space-occupying bike or car. Some Scoot locations are used by over 100 different people a month.

I run Scoot. I started this business to make it easier for people to ride. Folks who already own motorbikes don't need our help with that and may even wish that no one else in SF would take up riding so that parking won't get worse.

We make parking easier by helping people share bikes, and we are lobbying the city for thousands of new motorbike parking spaces that everyone can use.

At $2 a ride we may not be making a profit, and on 30 MPH electric mopeds we definitely aren't badass motorcyclists, but please, please don't damage our vehicles. The next person to get on that scoot isn't going to be some faceless corporate scapegoat. It will be someone who lives around the corner, doesn't have their own bike, and needs to get somewhere safely.
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Mike,
Why cant you park your scooters on private property similar to other vehicle sharing services. Using public spots for a private business for profit does not sit well with many residents. Or how about working with the city and getting additional motorcycle/scooter spots for your scooters? Rather than displace current parkers.

Cheers and thanks for responding! :thumbup
 
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