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Why You Should Get a GoPro/Contour

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So I have been hearing an obscene amount of "I wish I had a GoPro when X" kinda talk going on in BARF. For example:

Makes me want to mount a Go Pro for my liability protection.
Can't understand why LEO 's are so quick to blame motorcycle riders even before all the facts are reviewed. Have seen it with one of my friends. Cop just didn't even listen to his side of the story, just "assumed" he was driving fast when he wasn't, actually below the speed limit.

Fuck that was close. Wish I had my GoPro mounted to catch it. I don't think I'll be riding out in the hills on the weekend anymore.

Check this out. Last Tuesday, I just found out yesterday, a big rig changed lanes into my buddy Toby's Hayabusa and hit him, knocking him off at 25 or so. Bruised ankle, scuffed bike, trip to the ER. Released later that day. Right here in Santa Maria. No speed involved.He told me at least 15 or 20 cars went by as it happened or shortly there after. Nobody stopped to help. And today, he says, the truck driver had a completely different story, and the cops placed the blame on him. His word against the truck driver, no other witnesses stopped, he'll probably lose.

Damn, that's a reason to wear a GoPro (or something similar). Awesome video of, "damn I got mad reaction skills, and that cager is an asshat." Props to the rider, I would have gone through the windshield or off the cliff on the other side.

The point of this thread is to emphasize the safety aspect of owning a GoPro/Contour camera. Many riders believe it's a needless accessory that exists purely for vanity; that's only one aspect of its functionality, though.

I ride with my GoPro every single time. You might call that paranoia, but I know that just like how some of you would rather take a gun and not need it than not take it and need it, I would prefer to use it at all times because Murphy's Law dictates the time when I need it most will be the one time I don't have it.

Why should I get a camera?

* Improved Relationship with Cagers
Anecdotally, I have noticed that since I started riding with the GoPro, drivers have gone from indifferent and occasionally hostile to actually polite in most situations. The difference in cager behavior is both noticeable and effective. The threat of creating video evidence of bad behavior is enough to make the bad apples shape up and the rest of the cagers go out of their way to be helpful. Incidentally, if I ride with the camera tucked behind the windscreen, the same bad attitudes come right back.

* The Burden of Proof Is on You
The truth is that, unfortunately, the motorcycle rider is given the burden of proof, especially if it's a young rider on a fast bike. I understand that in police work assumptions are typically made; this will hardly ever work out in your favor. Not to disparage the police, I am grateful that the cops who ride/moto cops on BARF are able to bring their motorcycle knowledge to their work, however the majority will look at you sideways at the very least. "He was going so fast and I didn't see him" is the last thing you want coming out of the mouth of the guy who turned left right in front of you because in a lots of cases that's all that needs to be said to put your head on the chopping block. If you ride with a camera, it's a simple matter of showing off the evidence and you're home free. Dropping $200 on a Hero 2 is better than dropping $2,000 on a lawyer to defend yourself.

* It Will Save You Money

The initial investment might seem like a waste of money, but it can save you money on insurance, tickets, and legal fees. Having a silent observer with you at all times can come in handy in many occasions. I spend $200 on my HD Hero 2 and I have saved probably 3x that in tickets. People make mistakes, and when you are facing a $400 ticket you want to have the events as they happened to corroborate your claims. Dealing with your insurance will be as easy as showing them the video (assuming you didn't trash your bike while being an asshat). Plus, if some guy steps out in front of you at night wearing all black clothing on a 45-mph expressway and you hit him and he's injured, you sure as hell want a video to get you off the hook instead of preparing to get financially reamed by paying for adequate counsel.

* A Good Investment
Since the release of the Hero 3 a brand new HD Hero 2 is $249, with used ones probably approaching half of that. I'm not familiar with the prices of Contour cameras though. I have been running my HD Hero 2 every day since last July when I purchased it and it runs just the same now as when I got it. In short: they last forever and are not too expensive to begin with, that's a good investment.

* Girls Like Them More Than Your Bike

On a lighter note, I have girls talk to me all the time about my GoPro. Even when I am standing next to my bike, most people in general are more interested in asking me about the camera. If you are a smooth and sexy guy/gal, getting laid because you have a GoPro is a very real possibility. :thumbup

In summation: You are prepared for the unexpected. You have the truth on your side. You have maximized your sex appeal. You are a smart and protected rider.

Legitimate Reasons for Not Getting a Camera:
  • You ride dirty almost all the time
  • Um... just that.

I'm expecting a little negative feedback on this thread (because this is BARF, where people argue even though they agree :laughing) but I hope maybe some of you will consider getting a camera in the future. At the very least it will make for more awesome youtube videos. :Popcorn :teeth
 
A POV cam had been on my wish list for awhile, for pretty much the reasons OP listed, and I recently received a Roam2 as a gift. I've been riding with it for about a week now. A little disappointed that my night recordings don't show hardly anything. All you can see are light sources. Standing 6 feet away from a car's illuminated license plate at night, it's unreadable in playback even though you could see it clear as day with the naked eye.

Once you're going 5 mph all the mic pics up is wind noise.

...and the fisheye exaggerates speed, especially when splitting. Maybe if the shot clearly showed the speedometer, in the case of proving you weren't speeding.

In any case, it's better than no witness, and I feel like its presence does positively affect people's behavior, so I'm gonna keep rolling it as a helmet cam.
 
Im investing in a go pro soon. Through work I can get the hero 3 silver for 180 and the black for 240.

Is it worth the extra money? On a tight budget but the black has some neat features.
 
Take a look at some of the problems the GoPro Hero 3s have been having (specifically the black edition). After doing a lot of research and while I still want a GoPro, I plan on waiting until they get this resolved. In the meantime I purchased a Drift HD for $200 and plan on using that for the time being. Only gripe with these cameras is that their FOV is pretty crazy.
 
...and the fisheye exaggerates speed, especially when splitting. Maybe if the shot clearly showed the speedometer, in the case of proving you weren't speeding.

This is massively to your advantage. I have tried the 180 degree, 127 degree, and 100 degree functions on my GoPro. The rule is that the wider the angle, the slower it looks like you are going. This can definitely help. Video of me going triple digits at 180 degrees looks like going 65 on the narrowest FOV.

As for recording the speedo, this will not help you at all. As it stands, I have yet to add a speed healer on my bike to compensate for the larger sprockets and since it's 13% higher than my actual speed, I just guesstimate by taking off about 10 mph. Even if you had a speedo readout, that won't get you out of a ticket. Courts can't be convinced that your bike is accurately reading out the speed, and even if you let them check it out to prove it, there would be no way of proving that it was that way during the time the video was taken.

Take a look at some of the problems the GoPro Hero 3s have been having (specifically the black edition). After doing a lot of research and while I still want a GoPro, I plan on waiting until they get this resolved. In the meantime I purchased a Drift HD for $200 and plan on using that for the time being. Only gripe with these cameras is that their FOV is pretty crazy.

Hero 2 is probably the best value so far... I'm never into adopting the first wave of technology. Just look at the first Xbox 360s, remember that? What a nightmare :thumbdown
 
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As for recording the speedo, this will not help you at all. As it stands, I have yet to add a speed healer on my bike to compensate for the larger sprockets and since it's 13% higher than my actual speed, I just guesstimate by taking off about 10 mph. Even if you had a speedo readout, that won't get you out of a ticket. Courts can't be convinced that your bike is accurately reading out the speed, and even if you let them check it out to prove it, there would be no way of proving that it was that way during the time the video was taken.

well that's a bunch of horseshit. at that rate anyone can be ticketed for speeding even if they aren't just because you can't prove what you read on your speedo
 
* get footage of all the hot babes sitting in cars next to you

waiting at the light you look at the driver next to you. hot blonde in a short skirt (that's riding up) twurling her hair. seatbelt accentuating her ample busom. always worth recording.
 
For POV the cam is mounted on the helmet? If so how does that effect wind buffeting at speed?
 
i have found even a non-working cam make the fools go away fast.
i use a dead contour bolted to rear of my bike. tailgaters back off fast when they see the cam pointed at them. might put a bright red ring around it making it easier to see. or just a note on the plate ring saying "smile you are on canded cam".

and i use a dash cam (search VVR ) in the cage and rig at work.
how do you think they get all those russian hwy videos?

I said, she said..well I have a video Mr judge. :wow
 
I posted this in another thread, but REI is having their annual 20% sale right now. You can get 20% off one full price item (I think you have to be a member). They sell both GoPro and Contour. Also comes with satisfaction guarantee, so you're pretty much covered if it breaks for any reason.

I wish my insurance company would give me a discount for carrying a POV camera.


That settles that!

:laughing
 
well that's a bunch of horseshit. at that rate anyone can be ticketed for speeding even if they aren't just because you can't prove what you read on your speedo

Yup. Guilty until proven innocent: that's the system we created and continue to support! :thumbdown

* get footage of all the hot babes sitting in cars next to you

waiting at the light you look at the driver next to you. hot blonde in a short skirt (that's riding up) twurling her hair. seatbelt accentuating her ample busom. always worth recording.

This is actually a very useful feature if you are a creeper. :p

For POV the cam is mounted on the helmet? If so how does that effect wind buffeting at speed?

I usually put the camera on the bike if I am planning on going fast. It does pull back on your heard enough to make riding in an upright position uncomfortable and the wind noise gets pretty loud. Those are really the only noticeable effects in the way of wind buffeting. It might be different if you mount the camera on the side of the helmet.

Last gen Contour ROAM is just over $100 at Amazon. Better for helmet mounting too, which I think is the way to go for this application.

I say it's the best value because it works great and shoots in 1080p. If the contour does that then maybe it's a better value.

I wish my insurance company would give me a discount for carrying a POV camera.

This is something I thought about when writing the "reasons why." This is definitely do-able, people should start working on this! :thumbup

If I'm wearing it, can I leave it on during?

Would make for great POV porn. :twofinger
 
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