You're not seriously suggesting that you think we don't prep for deployments, are you? :|
Your day at Burning Man has little or nothing in common with a day in the life of the typical Infantryman on ground in the desert.
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Wow .. cost of air conditioning for U.S. troops in MidEast more than NASA budget
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You're not seriously suggesting that you think we don't prep for deployments, are you? :|
Your day at Burning Man has little or nothing in common with a day in the life of the typical Infantryman on ground in the desert.
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We have a patent pending on a cooling system that is light and portable, that hopefully will be well received for military use.
This issue was brought out publicly by the commanding General not because of the $$cost but because of the lives lost to transport fuel into these regions.
This issue was brought out publicly by the commanding General not because of the $$cost but because of the lives lost to transport fuel into these regions.
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I think you guys prep but dont prep with cost in mind or have a green understanding of how the natives do it. Its war not camping!
My day at burningman has many things in common with typical infanty men in a desert minus people trying to kill me. I used to go out there for a month at a time so i am not refering to a typical partier day at burningman but instead getting up at the buttcrack of dawn and swinging a hammer in the sun. The heat sucks! BTW the US goverement came to the heads of the BRorg way back before the second deployment to get a better understanding of how to live and survive in the desert.
Did you see the cost of one troopers worth of a/c? That is just plain wasting money......
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air conditioning for the troops is more valuable than going back to the moon. a wise budget choice i say
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Disagree. 10 years after another trip from the moon they'd still be sifting through the data. 10 years after we leave the middle east it'll be a giant clusterfuck again.
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... and when the Chinese are opening up a KFC up there we'll complain "How'd we let that happen?"
so 10 years later we'll be in a clusterfuck either way? i'd rather keep the people that protect me cool
also, we could get the same data sending a robot or 5 for 1/3 the price
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Your typical day didn't include carrying a full pack plus weaponry and walking for 12 hours did it?
I'm not going to argue semantics with you. Suffice it to say that your typical Burning Man attendee does not perform the same on a daily basis.
Also, that inflated cost isn't really just A/C. There are plenty of other things sucking power up during the summer months. Still, the best way to keep the costs down it is to implement controls, like we did, that prevent Soldier's from adjusting their A/C to unreasonably low temperatures. Hell, I walked into a Soldier's CHU one day to find the place was a fucking popsicle and he and his 3 roomies had the temperature control set to 62...the lowest it would go. There's no need for that. In fact, extreme temperature changes like that can cause illnesses. The command put a stop to that shortly thereafter by switching to a central control for all HVAC units in the company's CHU's.
Entoptic
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It's good that they put a lock down on that 62 degree temp stuff. Wasting resources is not the best when you are in a desert.
"Your typical day didn't include carrying a full pack plus weaponry and walking for 12 hours did it?
I'm not going to argue semantics with you. Suffice it to say that your typical Burning Man attendee does not perform the same on a daily basis."
Then please stop
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Robots don't say "fuck you" to the Chinese a half as well as a red blooded American can. Although if our robots drove over and tagged their lander, that would be pretty fuckin' epic.
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Robots don't say "fuck you" to the Chinese a half as well as a red blooded American can. Although if our robots drove over and tagged their lander, that would be pretty fuckin' epic.
Steve
It's very interesting you mention that because there is a huge debat over who owns the moon. Do the Chinese own it when they plant their flag? It's this some sort of cosmic capture the flag game?
Robots don't say "fuck you" to the Chinese a half as well as a red blooded American can. Although if our robots drove over and tagged their lander, that would be pretty fuckin' epic.
Steve
the best way to say fuck you to the chinese on the moon is with a robot that actually works. by the time their space program catches up in 20 years our robots will have at least made one successful trip!
what does spray paint do in zeroG? probably ought to stick to the giant magic markers to start with
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^ I've read the Chinese space program is on a faster pace than that....
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There is no question that soldiers could be kept cool in more economical and safer ways than they currently are. When you have a bottomless budget, you use it - you can't both complain about government bureaucracy and waste, and at the same time believe that flying in fuel to run AC into poorly insulated and vented structures in the sun is the best way to keep our soldiers healthy.
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GTFO of Afghanistan. There is nothing there to win.
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Yeah, it's a perfect recipe: One of the hottest places on the planet; some of the least insulated hovels we can devise. An A/C contractor's wet dream.
Eisernkreuz
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I prepped for Iraq by going to New Jersey in January. The two feet of snow closely approximated the conditions in Basra. :|
Eisernkreuz
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This.
When our A/Cs need washing, recharging, repairing or replacing, AISG shows up and handles that shit, no questions asked, same day, usually within two hours. Why? Because they've been given a fat contract to keep all that shit running with as close to zero downtime as possible.
