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This crash was really scary for me.

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msethhunter

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Because I have more than a few buddies who fly this and live there. Thankfully I’ve heard from all of them.

Looks like it lost its #1, as in it came off the airframe. This has happened in the past, and if memory serves correctly, the slats (leading edge flaps) will retract. If that happened, there was nothing this crew would have been able to do. The lift asymmetry would have been to much to counteract with the available flight controls. They were loaded with fuel to get to Hawaii, so they were really heavy.

Sucks. One of my buddies had flown with one of those involved quite a bit, so he’s a little shook up.

about.ups.com

UPS Statement on Aircraft Accident

At approximately 5:20 PM ET tonight, UPS Flight 2976 from Louisville, KY, to Honolulu, an MD-11 with three crewmembers onboard, was involved in an accident in Louisville.
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I don't see any confirmation of casualties and I will hope there are none.

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Can’t quite follow your tech explanation but sure can follow a crash shaking things up for others who are participating in the same way.

My only experience is moto racing where other riders were killed during my race or during the race day.

I felt 5 of those moments. Luckily they don’t happen as frequently as they used too.

Hope your bud can push it aside and feel OK about it.
 
budman said:
Can’t quite follow your tech explanation but sure can follow a crash shaking things up for others who are participating in the same way.

My only experience is moto racing where other riders were killed during my race or during the race day.

I felt 5 of those moments. Luckily they don’t happen as frequently as they used too.

Hope your bud can push it aside and feel OK about it.
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Think of it as the rear wheel suddenly went from same orbital path- to 30 degrees right of the front...at WOT.
 
budman said:
Can’t quite follow your tech explanation but sure can follow a crash shaking things up for others who are participating in the same way.
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Basically, when the leading edge slats retract on only one wing, the wing they didn’t retract on makes significantly more lift and it rolls the airplane over. There was an American DC-10 (MD11) that crashed in Chicago about 20-25 years ago because the engine came off, nearly the exact same way.

If this had been a passenger jet, there would be a whole lot more fatalities. There was no surviving this.
 
gixxerjeff said:
That hits pretty close to home for you, Mikey.
I'm thinking about you, Dude.
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Thanks. I was pretty shook last night. Took my buddy Scott hours to reach out and I wouldn’t be where I am today if it wasn’t for him sticking his neck out for me years ago. I owe him a lot, and I’m a few years older. I told him “Look man, I’m older. That means I don’t get the opportunity to go to your funeral. Next time post some shit on your social media that it wasn’t you you MF!”
 
NorCalBusa said:
Think of it as the rear wheel suddenly went from same orbital path- to 30 degrees right of the front...at WOT.
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And then hooked back up while you were still WOT, so it spit the bike out and you up.
 
budman said:
Can’t quite follow your tech explanation but
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basically, it was completely missing one engine shortly after take-off. Like, gone, not there, no part... and it wasn't lost--it was somewhere on the ground/runway behind the plane.

and this is one of the vids showing the crash, I guess spoilers and NSFW (it's actually one of the "best" vids considering you see the face of the guy "filming")

www.mediaite.com

VIDEO: Fiery UPS Plane Crash Captured Up-Close in Stunned Driver’s Terrifying Dashcam Footage

One driver sat in the cabin of his truck just beyond the runway captured the moment the plane exploded and smashed into the ground in front of him.
www.mediaite.com www.mediaite.com

direct link to the x/twitter
https://twitter.com/x/status/1985893358720438345

I mean, seriously, 21st century and "no engine" ?

The left engine, which separated from the wing during the takeoff roll, was lying on the grass near runway 17
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msethhunter said:
Basically, when the leading edge slats retract on only one wing, the wing they didn’t retract on makes significantly more lift and it rolls the airplane over. There was an American DC-10 (MD11) that crashed in Chicago about 20-25 years ago because the engine came off, nearly the exact same way.

If this had been a passenger jet, there would be a whole lot more fatalities. There was no surviving this.
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IIRC, the maintenance crew took a shortcut when removing and reinstalling the engine and that ultimately led to the crash.

Image of the crash of the American Airlines DC-10.
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A single bolt failed, and they found it.
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Awful on so many different levels. Please do not let it be due to negligence or cost cutting. Please for the sake of families allow it to be an explainable freak event.
My heart hurts for families, coworkers, and friends of those lost souls.
 
Awful, it must have been terrifying. What's interesting is that whenever people talk about the terror of something like a mass shooting, the odds of it happening are always brought up about how unlikely it is and that it's really the publicity that causes an irrational and hysterical fear and panic. I guess likewise, airplane crashes fall into the same category compared to....pretty much everything, even riding a bicycle, or choking on a sandwich. Basically everything that millions of people do everyday with absolutely no uniqueness to it whatsoever, is more dangerous with even worse odds.
 
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