The gun expert from the New York Times

[Dr. Evil]

Anyone who uses the Brady Campaign as a source for anything demonstrates that they're a moron.

 

[Marlowe]

"clip" is short/slang for "magazine"

can we just accept that and move on?

No, it's not. It has a specific meaning:

 

[gixxerjoeca]

The Brady bunch has been waiting for something like this to push their agenda with hopes that it will play into a push for gun control with the general public.

 

[Nahullo]

...Put in different terms; I know how to sail small boats. I can operate the whole thing. Does the fact that I don't remember the names of all 50 different lines and the names of all 10,000 different sailing knots mean I'm going to die? ...

They are not all lines some are called sheets. Its a pet peave of mine when people who use boats or talk about them have no idea wtf they are talking about

 

[gixxerjoeca]

That article is chock full of B.S.

I like this line...............

Jared Loughner came to Giffords’s sweet gathering with a semiautomatic weapon that he was able to buy legally because the law restricting their sale expired in 2004

 

[2nsane]

Welcome to my world.

There you arearty

 

[gixxerjoeca]

Knee jerk retards.:|


http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=E8F5DA2C-2CDB-40E3-9794-AD0194C7FAC6

McCarthy readies gun control bill
By: Shira Toeplitz
January 9, 2011 05:57 PM EST

One of the fiercest gun-control advocates in Congress, Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.), pounced on the shooting massacre in Tucson Sunday, promising to introduce legislation as soon as Monday targeting the high-capacity ammunition the gunman used.

McCarthy ran for Congress after her husband was gunned down and her son seriously injured in a shooting in 1993 on a Long Island commuter train.

“My staff is working on looking at the different legislation fixes that we might be able to do and we might be able to introduce as early as tomorrow,” McCarthy told POLITICO in a Sunday afternoon phone interview.

Gun control activists cried it was time to reform weapons laws in the United States, almost immediately after a gunman killed six and injured 14 more, including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, in Arizona on Saturday.

Many said that people with a history of mental instability, like the alleged shooter, Jared Lee Loughner, should not be able to buy a gun — and no one should be able to buy stockpiles of ammunition used by the 22-year-old assailant.

McCarthy said she plans to confer with House Speaker John Boehner and Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi to see “if we can work something through” in the coming week.

McCarthy’s spokesman confirmed the legislation will target the high-capacity ammunition clips the Arizona gunman allegedly used in the shooting, but neither he or the congresswoman offered any further details.

“Again, we need to look at how this is going to work, to protect people, certainly citizens, and we have to look at what I can pass,” McCarthy said. “I don’t want to give the NRA – excuse the pun – the ammunition to come at me either.”

Pennsylvania Rep. Robert Brady, a Democrat from Philadelphia, told CNN that he also plans to take legislative action. He will introduce a bill that would make it a crime for anyone to use language or symbols that could be seen as threatening or violent against a federal official, including a member of Congress.

Another vocal supporter for gun control, Illinois Rep. Mike Quigley, told POLITICO that he hopes “something good” can come from the Arizona tragedy – perhaps discussion on a new assault weapon ban, sales at gun shows and tracing measures.

Loughner legally purchased his weapon – a Glock 19 with an extended magazine – from an Arizona store. The same kind of extended magazine was illegal under the assault weapons ban that expired in 2004.

“The ability to buy a weapon that fires hundreds of bullets in less than a minute,” said Quigley. “He had an additional magazine capability. That’s not what a hunter needs. That’s not what someone needs to defend their home. That’s what you use to hunt people.”

After the Virginia Tech massacre in 2007, in which a student with a history of psychological problems killed 33 and injured 25 others, lawmakers immediately started looking at gun control reforms both in the state and atthe federal level.

Then-Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine issued an executive order making it harder for people who have been committed to mental health treatment centers to buy a gun.

In 2008 President George W. Bush signed a law expanding the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, which registered gun dealers use, to include more comprehensive reporting of mental health records. Under the current law, it is illegal for anyone who has been “adjudicated as a mental defective or committed to a mental institution” to purchase a firearm, according to the FBI’s website.

However, Loughner did not fall into either of those categories, according to Josh Horwitz, the executive director of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence.

“I’ve seen no evidence that he falls into those categories. It’s the same thing as this guy at Virginia Tech,” said Horwitz. “We can do a much better job checking people’s mental health background.”

 

[teg916]

There is only 1 solution here. By 2012 we must ban any item that has ever been used in a way that led to somebodys death. That is right, we must ban guns, knives, cars, boats, airplanes, box cutters, razor blades, baseball bats, bowling balls, large candle holders, rope, etc. We can all wear our knee pads, elbow pads, jock straps and helmets for safety whenever we leave the house.

/rant

 

[RRR70]

"clip" is short/slang for "magazine"

For idiots

 

[gixxerjoeca]

Glock Clip.

 

[CoorsLight]

Knee jerk retards.:|

http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=E8F5DA2C-2CDB-40E3-9794-AD0194C7FAC6

Oh WONderful. And it's no shock that spearheading this legislation is none other than Carolyn McCarthy. You better hide your forward grips! Hide your barrel shrouds!

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For idiots

+1. I also love how according to the NY Times article, the "clip" can hold thirty "bullets." That might be true, but bullets don't do anything without the rest of the cartridge.

 

[RRR70]

Also, calling the magazine a 'clip' doesn't mean you're unintelligent and uneducated about firearm operation.

Yes it does.

It just means you and the people you talk to call it a clip.

People also come to my store and ask me for bullets for their gun. I tell them that we don't sell bullets. They look around at all the boxes of ammo in the store and when I try to explain to them the difference between "bullets" and "ammunition" they'd be like "whatever". It's not whatever, dumbass, people need to take firearms seriously. They not toys.

 

[gixxerjoeca]

Oh WONderful. And it's no shock that spearheading this legislation is none other than Carolyn McCarthy. You better hide your forward grips! Hide your barrel shrouds!





+1. I also love how according to the NY Times article, the "clip" can hold thirty "bullets." That might be true, but bullets don't do anything without the rest of the cartridge.

Damn that woman is stupid! "No i dont know what a barrel shroud is", "well its in your legislation" BWAHAHAHAHA!

 

[afm199]

"clip" is short/slang for "magazine"

can we just accept that and move on?

no, it comes from the clip used by the M1 Garand in WWII, it is NOT a magazine, it is a spring steel clip that is ejected and usually thrown away.

 

[afm199]

I like that part about a weapon (the glock) that can shoot "hundreds of rounds" a minute.

Maybe if you have a briefcase and a very sore trigger finger.

 

[RRR70]

no, it comes from the clip used by the M1 Garand in WWII, it is NOT a magazine, it is a spring steel clip that is ejected and usually thrown away.

Not just an M1 Garand. Most old (pre WWII) bolt action rifles used stripper clips for faster reloading. Russian semi-auto SKS carbine use it also. There were several semi-auto pistols that had internal box magazine and used clips for reloading (Mauser Broomhandle and a few others).

 

[Eldritch]

Not that I approve of this guys actions, but the Second Amendment isn't for hunting or personal protection. It's for doing exactly what this guy did.

 

[RRR70]

I like that part about a weapon (the glock) that can shoot "hundreds of rounds" a minute.

Maybe if you have a briefcase and a very sore trigger finger.

Actually GLOCK "is" capable of high rate of fire. GLOCK 18 (select fire) has rate of fire of approximately 1,100 rounds per minute .
I just like to get all technical 'n shit.

 

[Marlowe]

No, but the Garand is the common example because anyone that's ever encountered one has heard the famous "ping!..."

(Checking YouTubez...)

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[RRR70]

Not that I approve of this guys actions, but the Second Amendment isn't for hunting or personal protection. It's for doing exactly what this guy did.

That's why they scared shitless.