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It's REAL, you doubting b!tches... Honda RCV1000 v4 street bike

Honda would have been way better off making a V4 super bike like everyone has been clamoring for, for years.
 
KronikInsomniak said:
People are getting too hung up on the horsepower. The neutering is a moot point if you have $184,000 for this bike.
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What does "having money but neutered scrotum" have to do with paying $184,000 for a bike that can't out-torque a 1997 Bandit 1200? :laughing

This is a strange moment. Paying $184,000 for a bike with 2015 technology that is slower than bikes of 20 years ago. Yet performance is not the reason for the season, this is a collector bike. You're not supposed to actually ride it.
 
Zerox said:
What does "having money but neutered scrotum" have to do with paying $184,000 for a bike that can't out-torque a 1997 Bandit 1200? :laughing

This is a strange moment. Paying $184,000 for a bike with 2015 technology that is slower than bikes of 20 years ago. Yet performance is not the reason for the season, this is a collector bike. You're not supposed to actually ride it.
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You think some guy with that kind of money can't get his hands on the race kit despite it being not available in the US?

I guess this bike will only appeal to GP fans that get everything that goes into this bike besides just the horsepower figure. Its an actual race engine they had to restrict, much more difficult doing it that way around compared to completely rebuilding something from the ground up for the street like the Desmo RR which does not share most engine or chassis. That is probably why the Ducati was a lot cheaper and has the power right out the crate.

This bike has a much more identical engine, frame, swing arm, RCV1000R transmission, GP spec suspension and brembos, titanium everything down to the bolts, all hand assembled with hand welding. All pretty much bespoke parts and Honda contacts you directly if your app is approved. The whole bike is pretty much unobtanium for a lot of the parts that were raced just a year or so ago. I personally think its cool that they are even building hundreds of these for the public.

People wanted identical GP race kit, Honda provides it, and everyone has sticker shock. GP stuff isn't exactly cheap. I guess if you are a fan of the sport you will more likely appreciate the bike you are getting, otherwise its just another lol 100HP bike.
 
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Kurosaki said:
Me thinks it's because Honda missed their window.

It's like if a girl started jerking you off, stopped before finishing and left, then came back an hour later for another go, and you're sitting there pissed off and don't even care anymore
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:rofl .. I am a Honda fan .. own a honda car and enjoyed my motos : 600rr/1000rr but I have no clue what this is all about :nchantr... Then again, I fail to understand the silliness at this level anyway.

I'm still happy that you can get an amazing experience (that will take lots of effort/skill to fully utilize) at an affordable price. With all the dumb money floating around in the upper tiers of wealth, you gotta make something to try and capture their desire to set themselves apart... I'm just glad its nothing to envy :p
 
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KronikInsomniak said:
You think some guy with that kind of money can't get his hands on the race kit despite it being not available in the US?
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Point is, for a buck-eighty-five, that poor gazillioniare shouldn't have to....

Rather have that new fancy pants M1 and use the rest of the money on a Porsche, or some other $150K pile of fun.

:thumbdown Honda...
 
well for me it just kind of is a let down (other than not being made yet I STILL think something ruins the rekease)

yes its boss, but honda said this was supposed to ab an engineering examplem a way for their designers to stretch their muscles, and really make an engineering example, ala the NR750 and RC30.

but they didnt really engineer anything around the road limits, which is weird because honda is the one always harping on fuel limits, clean air, etc etc. they just said, instead of lets make this thing a 200 hp street legal monster, meh its 100hp.

and it doesnt have signature design elements like oval pistons on the NR, or at the time, the gear driven cams and single swinarm ala the 30

instead it just comes off as kinda bland to me.

the desmosedici came with the racing kit, so tyou had 200HP off the bat. the honda not only doesnt come with it, you cant get it. yes yes some milliomnaire can if he really wants but thats not the point, if hondas whole aim was for th ebike to be an engineering feat
 
all of Honda's engineering effort for consumer products is now devoted to cost-savings. they wont even put fly-by-wire on their dated sportbikes. but theyll release multiple 250s, 300, 650s, the NC, and other cheap bikes. theres no way they are going to put effort into making their RCV1000R emissions legal.
 
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kevin 714 said:
well for me it just kind of is a let down (other than not being made yet I STILL think something ruins the rekease)

yes its boss, but honda said this was supposed to ab an engineering examplem a way for their designers to stretch their muscles, and really make an engineering example, ala the NR750 and RC30.
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The NR750 was a streetbike engineering tour de force. The RC30 was not; it was a racebike with lights and shit that could easily be removed. The RC30 was NOT fast as a stock streetbike. Cams and carburetion severely limited power in order to reduce emissions. And the close-ratio transmission with tall final gearing made it difficult to launch, so quarter-mile times were lame. Only with the race kit parts did it come alive.

The Euro version of the RC213V with the sports kit will make 215hp and weigh 390lb. JFC.

Too bad the US won't get the sports kit, but because the EPA can ruin a manufacturer for selling parts that circumvent emissions standards, it's hard to blame Honda. And an American with an extra $184,000 jingling around in his pocket will find a way to get the Euro sports kit if he really wants it.
 
Blame the government not Honda for the sports Kit. It was the only legal way for Honda to bring this bike to the US. This is a GP engine detuned for the street, not a street engine tuned to be a monster.

I always thought the goal was to bring a GP bike to the street which they did? The goal was never to build the ultimate street monster, it was to bring the public a GP bike they could buy and they did exactly that. Its roughly 80% identical parts, rest being required road and emissions equipment. O well, different strokes for different folks.
 
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DataDan said:
... an American with an extra $184,000 jingling around in his pocket will find a way to get the Euro sports kit if he really wants it.
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This. 1,000X this.

Anyone who can afford the bike will be able to get any parts they want for it and won't be worrying about the warranty.

Honda makes plenty of practical reasonably priced econo-bikes, this isn't one of them.
 
number_6 said:
It seems like people wouldn't have had a problem with it costing $250K, but now if the fully unleashed version is $250K and some extra footwork then it is a deal breaker? .
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We'd still have a problem with it for $250k fully uncorked.

The Ducati D16RR came with a 200hp kit, a signature feature (V4 desmo engine), sand cast parts, Ti valves, etc. for $72k.

Ducati compromised to keep costs down, and it shared no parts with an actual GP bike. But at least it was unique: there aren't any other modern production V4 Ducatis and at the time it was the fastest Ducati you could buy.

As is the Honda is >2x more expensive than the Duc and makes the same power as the V4 VFR they already sell.

At 250k uncorked (hypothetically), it's >3x the cost of the D16RR and makes only marginally more power than a half dozen 25k supersports. Without a specific signature feature or compelling looks.

It's laughable.
 
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the signature feature is that it does share parts w/ a 2014 GP bike

Honda did as little development as possible. theyve stated that the bike is built in a diff factory from the production models because of diff processes required. so u know u r getting a real copy of a prototype frame, not a production knock off.
 
What's laughable is neutering the bike to make it street legal and then forcing U.S. buyers to illegally modify the bike to get it to full spec, voiding the warranty, and making it illegal to ride on the street.
 
Geez man, i honestly dont get what the bummer news is all about. Remeber that story of that dude who bought the GP12 or 13 or whatever Guy basically had to fly out Duc factory tech if wanted to do anything to it.

This is just not your average person's bike. It's buying a unicorn and the magic unicorn saddle to ride it. Its gonna cost "fuck you" money for a "Fuck you" bike.
 
Karbon said:
Geez man, i honestly dont get what the bummer news is all about. Remeber that story of that dude who bought the GP12 or 13 or whatever Guy basically had to fly out Duc factory tech if wanted to do anything to it.

This is just not your average person's bike. It's buying a unicorn and the magic unicorn saddle to ride it. Its gonna cost "fuck you" money for a "Fuck you" bike.
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I'm all about limited production expensive as fuck bike for fucks sake, I guess I feel underwhelmed by this bike

Like just put in the seamless transmission! That alone I think would have been badass and its signature engineering feet.
 
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