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AR15 sexperts, is this a good deal?

Dubbington said:
Much more to it than that. Have a jig? Need one for either a drill press or CNC. Also, make sure you're the only one handling the equipment to play it safe. Best not telling anyone you have access. You milled them all with a dremel :p
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All covered.:thumbup:thumbup:thumbup
 
In addition, that scenario is no longer legal, so you were just mentioning something hypothetically, or forgot to use past tense. ;)
 
byke said:
In addition, that scenario is no longer legal, so you were just mentioning something hypothetically, or forgot to use past tense. ;)
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Which scenario is no longer legal? :wtf

Question: Jig can be used for ar15 and ar10, or are there separate jigs? I figure the only major difference is the magwell size.. But I'm pretty noob.
 
Brown81 said:
A .223 wylde will shoot any of the ammo that the "Nato 5.56" will shoot. It will also shoot .223 (not a NATO chamber, btw.)
To recap:
* .223rem chamber: shoots .223
* .5.56nato chamber: shoots 5.56 or .223
* .223wylde chamber: shoots 5.56 or .223
A faster twist rifling (1-7: that means one full twist in 7") stabilises heavier bullets better (62-75 grain)
A slower twist (say 1-10) is better for lighter bullets
This is IN GENERAL. I am no expert by any means, just trying to help clear the water. :cool
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Brown81 knows what he is talking about, some others here not so much.
verz said:
Buddy of mine is getting a job at a machine shop. Said to bring my 80% lower in anytime and he'll take care of me :D :D :D time to build my dream AR10
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That would be a felony (If you are making your own gun, that is fine. If someone else makes it, that is manufacturing without a license).
 
russ69 said:
Brown81 knows what he is talking about, some others here not so much.
That would be a felony (If you are making your own gun, that is fine. If someone else makes it, that is manufacturing without a license).
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You're absolutely right. But it is not illegal for him to show me the how-to of it all. I'll be making it myself. I know "he'll take care of me" was a pretty misleading statement. My apologies!
 
verz said:
Which scenario is no longer legal? :wtf
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The scenario where you go anywhere and use their tools to finish your receiver, it's not legal anymore. You have to do it yourself on your property with your own tools. Go ahead and do it, the change is ridiculous, just don't say it out loud. Especially don't let your friend say it out loud, it's high risk to the shop because they can be charged with manufacturing firearms without a license, which results in black helicopters and unfortunate accidents.
 
byke said:
The scenario where you go anywhere and use their tools to finish your receiver, it's not legal anymore. You have to do it yourself on your property with your own tools. Go ahead and do it, the change is ridiculous, just don't say it out loud. Especially don't let your friend say it out loud, it's high risk to the shop because they can be charged with manufacturing firearms without a license, which results in black helicopters and unfortunate accidents.
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Oh, hell. That I did not know. I remember there being a place down in So-Cal that taught people how to make AR15s so long as they brought their own materials, they could use the places tools. Looks like they've probably gone out of business since it's not longer legal...

That sucks.:thumbdown

Will definitely keep it on the down low.. thanks for the heads up
 
Good time to get your AR. Any AR. I think the industry learned from Sandy Hook as I noticed prices and inventory has been decently maintained even after the recent shootings. I expected the same ol scenario I experienced after Sandy Hook and both President elections but yup... still plenty of stuff out there readily available. Even .22LR. :cool

Even though I don't 'need' any more ARs I am contemplating getting a lower or two and the parts to build them just because. hehehe...
 
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Zerox said:
The AR15 fear always strike me as odd, since the AR15 is like the Ninja 250 of the gun world.....not much power, sells like hotcakes. :laughing
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:dunno They are just FUN!

verz said:
Which scenario is no longer legal? :wtf
Question: Jig can be used for ar15 and ar10, or are there separate jigs? I figure the only major difference is the magwell size.. But I'm pretty noob.
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Jigs are different. Receivers are different sizes.

Rambeezi said:
Good time to get your AR. Any AR. I think the industry learned from Sandy Hook as I noticed prices and inventory has been decently maintained even after the recent shootings. I expected the same ol scenario I experienced after Sandy Hook and both President elections but yup... still plenty of stuff out there readily available. Even .22LR. :cool

Even though I don't 'need' any more ARs I am contemplating getting a lower or two and the parts to build them just because. hehehe...
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Brownells has 80% on sale right now.
 
verz said:
...You're absolutely right. But it is not illegal for him to show me the how-to of it all. I'll be making it myself...
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I'm not sure if a test case has been through the courts yet. I know I don't want to be the test case. My understanding, and that is limited, is that the DOJ is taking a stance that making a gun at home with your own tools is OK but using another's tools and expertise is not. That is my current understanding.
 
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bruceflinch said:
:dunno They are just FUN!


Jigs are different. Receivers are different sizes.


Brownells has 80% on sale right now.
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The tirgger pocket is the same. The magazine well is longer. I've seen them done without a fixture, just clamped them in the vise, and indicated it flat and square.

I was asked to build a fixture (I build fixtures) to hold both (not a big deal, just 2 locating pins for the front take down pinholes), but we didn't get around to it.
 
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russ69 said:
I'm not sure if a test case has been through the courts yet. I know I don't want to be the test case. My understanding, and that is limited, is that the DOJ is taking a stance that making a gun at home with your own tools is OK but using another's tools and expertise is not. That is my current understanding.
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yup, you have to use your own tools. ive read the letter and its states if you make your tools available to complete a firearm you need to have a license. then you would need to stamp it, pass a background check, register and wait 10 days.... so unless your buddy has a FFL AND a cnc, you both will be felons.
 
Just finished my AR build (assembly) :twofinger

It was an interesting process and learned a lot about ARs and all the options. I think the next one I build will be an 80% with 300 blackout.
 

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byke said:
The scenario where you go anywhere and use their tools to finish your receiver, it's not legal anymore. You have to do it yourself on your property with your own tools. Go ahead and do it, the change is ridiculous, just don't say it out loud. Especially don't let your friend say it out loud, it's high risk to the shop because they can be charged with manufacturing firearms without a license, which results in black helicopters and unfortunate accidents.
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Got a link to that?
 
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