berth
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Yeah, total deal breaker for me. I am not at all interested in removable roofs on cars.
Does Jeep sell different models, one with permanent roofs, and others with detachable ones?
Yeah, total deal breaker for me. I am not at all interested in removable roofs on cars.
Does Jeep sell different models, one with permanent roofs, and others with detachable ones?
I've lived with a Mustang convertible for 15 years with no leaks at all. Never lived with a hard removable top, though....convertibles are just holes waiting to be opened.
Hnnnngh! Such an awesome rig. It’s really not a matter of if anymore, but when am I gonna get one.

Just put the deposit down - why not?![]()
Because my boss also owns a Ford dealer. And he told me if I’m not looking to be first on the block to have it, then after the hoopla dies down and there’s Broncos on the ground, I can just buy one on A plan. He won’t give me A plan for a Raptor or Shelby Mustang, but a Bronco is definitely not going to be a limited thing, so eventually production will easily overtake demand.
removable roofs have always been a leak point, it doesn't matter which manufacturer. it's a known problem on the original bronco and blazer to the point that if you ever took the roof off it WILL leak after reinstallation. water goes through holes, convertibles are just holes waiting to be opened.

What's A plan?
Anecdotal for sure, but my '89 never leaked and I had the top off as much as possible.
90-something drop-top Camaro never did, either.
Might have gotten lucky with both vehicles?
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Leaks aren't always the biggest deal in CA, but no matter where you are, that shit is noisy. Old Camaros were noisy AF. New Wranglers are, too, relatively speaking. And as I said earlier, goodby to roof storage. Not so much of a problem with a Camaro or whatever, but when the vehicle in question is intended for getting deep into camping type places or skiing, etc, kinda kills a lot of the usefulness.

Old Camaros were noisy AF. New Wranglers are, too, relatively speaking. And as I said earlier, goodby to roof storage. Not so much of a problem with a Camaro or whatever, but when the vehicle in question is intended for getting deep into camping type places or skiing, etc, kinda kills a lot of the usefulness.
Because my boss also owns a Ford dealer. And he told me if I’m not looking to be first on the block to have it, then after the hoopla dies down and there’s Broncos on the ground, I can just buy one on A plan. He won’t give me A plan for a Raptor or Shelby Mustang, but a Bronco is definitely not going to be a limited thing, so eventually production will easily overtake demand.
Invoice minus holdback minus flooring minus any other incentives that may be active at the time. Then add like $300 for a program fee. Generally, it means it’s about $1500 less than the absolute very best deal an outsider can get.
That's one of those Jeep things I never understood I guess. Got a ride on a buddy's new Wrangler and it was bouncing my innards and made a hell of a racket. I couldn't deal with it. Especially in the Bay where you're guaranteed a 3-hour freeway drone just to get anywhere fun.
Invoice minus holdback minus flooring minus any other incentives that may be active at the time. Then add like $300 for a program fee. Generally, it means it’s about $1500 less than the absolute very best deal an outsider can get.
Be careful. A-Plan is not always the best deal. My Ranger, for example, was $225 over invoice total which was much better than A Plan offered on the same truck and I bought it through Costco like I have most of my vehicles. It pays to shop around even if you work for the manufacturer.
Stop it.. PUT YOUR DEPOSIT DOWN!![]()