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2025 F1 Season (spoilers will be discussed)

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Did anyone else notice what Verstappen did at the beginning of the race. First, on the warm-up lap it appeared that he brake checked the field (there were some evasive maneuvers and some how Piastri passed Lando) coming out of turn 1 (I have no idea what happened, just assuming Max had something to do with it), Then when Verstappen got in front of Lando on the start, it appeared that he lifted slightly to try and get a couple of cars to pass Lando on the outside. First was dirty (IMHO) the second no so much.
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For sure. It was his only chance at winning the championship. Max needed to push Lando backwards.
 
Max and RB could have backed up the field sooo much more, à la Hamilton against Rosberg. The F1TV announcers called it out many times. The RB had more straight line and likely could have kept both McLarens behind. But nope. They seemed a little resigned when Charles didn’t have enough.
 
Anybody remember the battle between Colin Edwards and Troy Bayliss in 2002 World superbike championship?

It was an incredible season and a tense last race where Troy Bayliss tried to slow down enough and allow his teammate, Ruben Xaus to catch Edwards and keep him back.

It was an epic season where Bayliss won 14 of the first 17 races, then Edwards won the final 9 races.
 
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Anybody remember the battle between Colin Edwards and Troy Bayliss in 2002 World superbike championship?

It was an incredible season and a tense last race where Troy Bayliss tried to slow down enough and allow his teammate, Ruben Xaus to catch Edwards and keep him back.

It was an epic season where Bayliss won 14 of the first 17 races, then Edwards won the final 9 races.
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I remember. Awesome racing.
 
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I knew Ferrari brought one also, I just could not find anything on it. Your Internet-Fu is much better than mine.

It is going to be interesting seeing how the engineers will find work arounds for this "active" wings rule. It will also be interesting to see how it "activates". I heard that the new rule is it can be used on any straight at any time. So, will the brake peddle deactivate it? Will it be completely controlled (open and closed) by the driver (via a button)? Like I said, this will be interesting.
 
The reg is that low drag mode can be used in designated zones, not anywhere. Also, it will likely be disabled in the wet. And ever publication I’ve read says “driver can use it”, suggesting it'll be button activated. I suspect the same people that setup the DRS zones will be implementing these zones.

“X mode” is low drag, “Z mode” is high downforce. The point for X mode isn’t to provide the drivers some sporting advantage through their use of the mode, since everyone will always open at the same point. It’s just to save battery and make the cars faster. Of course, there will be setup discrepancies and it’s effect on the racing will change over the years - similar to DRS.

The drivers will also have the manage MOM (manual override mode), their ‘push to pass but only when within 1s’. They rly need to change that name. Or we may get Alonso leading MOM trains.
 
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I like how Indy Car has an allotted amount of time under push to pass for all drivers, letting them using as needed, but also a limited resource. The chance at uneven matchups makes for better racing, IMO.
 
Holeshot said:
I like how Indy Car has an allotted amount of time under push to pass for all drivers, letting them using as needed, but also a limited resource. The chance at uneven matchups makes for better racing, IMO.
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The Energy Recovery System serves that purpose, to some extent. Some drivers are much better at using it than others.
 
One issue with ERS that was kinda hidden from fans is that it was really tied to engine performance. The amount of energy allowed to be recovered from the MGU-H (the turbo) was unlimited. Recovery from the MGU-K was capped. So better more efficient engines could put more energy back into the battery, giving their drivers more deployment for faster lap times and easier passing. It’s part of the reason why Alpine rarely passed anyone.

The new regs don’t have this. Everyone will be limited to 8.5MJ/lap of energy recovery. Of course there still will be plenty of engine and ERS discrepancies btw manufactures in 2026. But things should tighten up better/faster than with the prev regs.

Aside from all that, I hope F1 improves the graphics for ERS and MOM. We rarely got a glimpse of driver’s battery levels, maybe once a race during a battle. Instead we should see their battery and deployment almost constantly on screen. I don’t care if it removes some advantage for the drivers (hiding their battery) - itd be equal for all of them and better for viewers.
 
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IDK if all of these things being done together is the wisest choice.

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Formula 1 in 2026: What are the key things to look out for next season?

BBC Sport runs down the key things to look out for in the 2026 season, including fresh regulations, a new team and a British rookie joining the grid.
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The new rules being brought in for 2026 are the biggest change in F1 for years - if not ever.

Cars will be smaller, nimbler and more environmentally friendly.

They will be 30kg lighter, 10cm narrower and have engines with a near 50-50 split between electric and internal combustion power - and use fully sustainable fuels.

Will the racing be any different? Yes, but how different is one of many unknowns.

The chassis and engine rules have never both been changed at the same time to this extent.

There will be new aerodynamic rules, and the power units, while of similar architecture to the past 12 years, have been significantly modified in terms of technology.

The engines remain 1.6-litre V6 turbo hybrids, but the MGU-H, which recovers energy from the exhaust and turbo, has been removed, while the proportion of power produced by the hybrid part of the engine has been more or less doubled to about 50%.

This has required major changes to aerodynamics. Not only has the venturi-underbody ground effect philosophy introduced in 2022 been abandoned, but movable front and rear wings have been introduced. That's to increase straight-line speed to enable more energy harvesting under braking.

For some time, there have been varying levels of concern expressed by the drivers about how this will affect the racing.

There will be some idiosyncrasies, it seems. The internal combustion engine will spend a fair bit of its time acting as a generator for the battery. So engines will be at maximum revs in some corners, for example.

The DRS overtaking aid has gone, because the opening of the rear wing is required for other purposes. So instead there will be a push-to-pass button that gives extra electrical energy for a time.

"It's really, really hard to predict what it's going to be like," says Lewis Hamilton. "I don't want to dog it. I don't want to say too many negative things.

"It feels so much different and I'm not sure you're going to like it. But maybe I'll be surprised. Maybe it'll be amazing. Maybe overtaking will be incredible. Maybe it'll be easier to overtake. I don't know.

"We have less downforce, more torque. Driving in the rain, I can imagine it's going to be very, very, very tough. Much harder than it is already with what we have today. But as I said, we might arrive and we might have better grip than we anticipated."
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Ehh another year of the current cars would suck. They are so efficient that they run smaller wings almost everywhere. This makes the DRS less effective, meaning so little passing. Also, the teams have gotten around all the regs that tried to reduce dirty air, making it harder and harder to follow. Another year would have been so processional, ie boring AF.

IMO, better to make drastic changes all at once and fix issues as they arise. So much about F1 will be new and new is often very similar to exciting.
 
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Another thing I saw - teams get to run their own wheels again. This will affect how they manage tire temp and wear. It’s another variable that some teams will get right and others will get wrong. Maybe it’ll help Merc in warm temps.
 
I have heard (rumor of course) that Mercedes is the one to watch out for next year. They did nail the reg change with the Hybrid area (pre ground effects).
 
I'd like to see tire rules change as well with much higher wear components and grip levels, mandating more than 2X the amount of pits stops as we have now. Get rid of the hard compound tire choices and give drivers a choice of soft/ super soft/ medium. Or possibly, only allow soft and super soft choices.
 
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