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another roadblock conviction overturned

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Dave from Vegas won his appeal in district court after he was convicted of obstructing an officer in municipal court. He was arrested for DUI when he didn't lower his window far enough to satisfy the Highway Patrol trooper at a roadblock. He blew a .000% blood alcohol content and they cited him for obstructing and released him.

I read the trial transcript last night and I am disgusted. The troopers, fearful of a lawsuit, said he wasn't arrested. The prosecutor argued a crime not charged in the complaint and the judge went along with it. The prosecutor amended the complaint following testimony. They said a request was a lawful order. They said refusing field sobriety tests was cause for arrest.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: stock up on rifles and ammunition.

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I've said it before and I'll say it again: stock up on rifles and ammunition.
Shouldn't we stock up on cheap attorneys, and legal fees? It seems that works without the danger of getting shot for REAL cause or killing some cop. :dunno
 
Shouldn't we stock up on cheap attorneys, and legal fees? It seems that works without the danger of getting shot for REAL cause or killing some cop. :dunno

:facepalm

but where's the drama in THAT ? !
 
I'd still let them violate my rights and just say no and drive away, then deal with all this.
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again: stock up on rifles and ammunition.

what's the guns and ammo for? you saying that when we arrive at a police checkpoint we should start shooting cops? i think you need to be more direct here. let us know exactly what you want us to do with the guns and ammo and be specific, thanks!
 
I installed windows on my Kockasaki just so I could refuse to roll them down if I ever get checkpointed. :x
 
Dave from Vegas won his appeal in district court after he was convicted of obstructing an officer in municipal court. He was arrested for DUI when he didn't lower his window far enough to satisfy the Highway Patrol trooper at a roadblock. He blew a .000% blood alcohol content and they cited him for obstructing and released him.

Does he have a case for collecting damages? I hope these strong-arm tactics can be truly discouraged.
 
Or.... we could just make the Officer's jobs easier and cooperate.

Seems a bit asonine to not do so.
 
Shouldn't we stock up on cheap attorneys, and legal fees? It seems that works without the danger of getting shot for REAL cause or killing some cop. :dunno

You need both, because eventually the lawyers will fail.

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Sobriety check points are so fucking Nazi it's not even funny. What all this police state shit eventually does is erode any respect for the LE community, and when something does happen, like civil unrest or revolution, they will be shown no mercy from pretty much anyone who has felt slighted by such tactics and procedures. They may not have initiated this type of shit (politicians and their fucking short sightedness are to blame), but they went along with it and enforce it. The guards at Auschwitz were "just doing their job".
 
Eldritch...

My BIGGEST fear ever lol. Hope it doesn't happen :)

Sobriety check points are so fucking Nazi it's not even funny. What all this police state shit eventually does is erode any respect for the LE community, and when something does happen, like civil unrest or revolution, they will be shown no mercy from pretty much anyone who has felt slighted by such tactics and procedures. They may not have initiated this type of shit (politicians and their fucking short sightedness are to blame), but they went along with it and enforce it. The guards at Auschwitz were "just doing their job".

No Mercy? Oh hell lmao.... What are you Mad Max?

Nazi references? Jesus bro been outside the U.S. much? We've got it good. Former Soviet block still isn't fun, Former Czech Repbulic.....Should I continue?

I think you're making a mountain out of a mole hill.

But Hey I'll side with the guys wearing the U.S. Flag every day of the week. Let's hope for the good of society that we don't end up on opposite sides. :)

I'm no bad ass, but it's my "Opinion" that your outlook is a little extreme. :)
 
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what's the guns and ammo for? you saying that when we arrive at a police checkpoint we should start shooting cops? i think you need to be more direct here. let us know exactly what you want us to do with the guns and ammo and be specific, thanks!
1. Train and practice.
2. Await orders from Eldritch.
3. Profit.
 
For the OP and interested others, if you're interested in reading about true histories of recent federal overreach (from my post a few months back):

Three Felonies A Day

If you enjoy reading about the underbelly of federal prosecution tactics and are concerned about defendant rights and/or the overreaching “arm of the (federal) law,” this is the book for you.

I just finished reading “Three Felonies A Day: How The Feds Target The Innocent.”

The book description on Amazon states: The average professional in this country wakes up in the morning, goes to work, comes home, eats dinner, and then goes to sleep, unaware that he or she has likely committed several federal crimes that day. Why? The answer lies in the very nature of modern federal criminal laws, which have exploded in number but also become impossibly broad and vague.

This is not what the book is about, it isn’t about any one of us potentially committing three felonies a day, which I thought was the case when I borrowed the book from the library. It is about federal prosecutors expanding the scope and reach of federal law beyond what the plain words in the law can be interpreted to mean by reasonably intelligent readers, how judges go along with this, and how use of contempt of court charges infringe on our valued “Fourth Estate” (in a later chapter in the book). Actual cases and actual quotes from judges are used throughout. There’s one case where two federal courts and two federal appellate courts found a defendant not guilty; the feds caused a full seating of the Boston (?) appellate court, which found the defendant guilty. In the statement provided by the majority (5 of 7), they said the federal prosecutors’ interpretation of the law was not ambiguous. But it WAS sufficiently ambiguous to confound over a half dozen judges. AND, the feds argued against using the law on the West Coast, and then argued for using the same law on the East Coast. Some unbelievable stories in the book.

This is a slanted, opinionated work written by a civil rights / criminal defense attorney in that there is no space given to the good that federal prosecutors do; however, this does not detract from the actuality of federal misconduct and judicial malfeasance (or idiocy), which are documented. Better to let ten guilty men go free than convict one innocent man.

In some of the cases an intent to do wrong is not needed for a finding of guilt! In a couple cases it was proved there was no intent; the judge informed the jury they could find the defendant guilty even though he intended to do the right thing.

The probability of this happening to any one of us is vanishingly small, we being too “small” to interest the feds; however it should be of concern to all of us who value a just judicial system.

This is a very informative read, and a good read from the first word through the last.

From the Amazon website:
http://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonies-Day-Target-Innocent/dp/1594032556

An accurate review:
http://shaneatwellblog.blogspot.com/2011/03/review-three-felonies-day-by-harvey.html

Lex
 
brew up a juicy one and then squeek it out right before you have to roll down the window at a roadblock

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