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Yeah, well the house smelled like old people too.
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Artificial grass lawn
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Yeah, well the house smelled like old people too.
Archimedes
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Reminds me of my grandparents retirement house in Leisureville in Florida. Plastic grass. The smell of rotting flesh everywhere. Death's waiting room.
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So what separates high quality stuff from mediocre/low quality one?
Thanks.
Aww! The rest of the class wants to see too!
I've also been thinking of going this route, but I'm not too keen on the cost, and the 'hot in the sun' wasn't something I was previously aware of.
250mL
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I want to see pics too. I am still in research mode.
My biggest concern at this point is the heat retention. If one were to spray it down with water, would it bring temps down to a more comfortable level? I know it won't be like natural grass, but warm fake grass is better than hot concrete.
I compare it to concrete because they seem to cost the same. My quotes came in at roughly $10/sqft. for both surface types. Less expensive and more expensive quality of both surface types affect price similarly.
Natural grass, crushed granite - not suitable for pool surround due to debris migration.
Concrete - hot to touch, hard, and non-permeable; high clay content around here, so movement in concrete very possible without substantial rebar.
Natural stone, or brick - more expensive than concrete/fake grass, hard, hot.
My research tells me the higher quality residential stuff includes some/all of these visible features:
1) Has texture to individual blades. Take a look at some real grass, some have a spine...in high quality grass, they recreate the spine.
2) Color variation among blades. I've seen two-three shades of green.
3) They also can include a "dead" grass, thatch, for realism (not weeds as someone stated).
4) Varied length
5) Varied width, both individual blades, as well as wide at base and narrow at tip.
6) Some are notably softer to walk on than others, but don't know what material makes a good surface.
That picture seems like the better quality stuff, not the highest, but most likely >$10/sqft range. It doesn't appear to look good as pictured because it's not completely installed. The blades are still leaning as it was just unrolled. There's also no infill to perk them up. What makes me think it's a better quality turf is the presence of a backing layer, both for comfort and for protection of the weave (this is an example of a non-visible advantage). Imagine the abrasion to the weave happening without the additional protective layer.
As for looks of the fake grass, when the neighboring trees drop their leaves and twigs and I let them be instead of sweeping them up, the solid green carpet suddenly looks more real...at least that's what I've been doing with the grass samples I've been given. Doesn't look bad at all.
My biggest concern at this point is the heat retention. If one were to spray it down with water, would it bring temps down to a more comfortable level? I know it won't be like natural grass, but warm fake grass is better than hot concrete.
I compare it to concrete because they seem to cost the same. My quotes came in at roughly $10/sqft. for both surface types. Less expensive and more expensive quality of both surface types affect price similarly.
Natural grass, crushed granite - not suitable for pool surround due to debris migration.
Concrete - hot to touch, hard, and non-permeable; high clay content around here, so movement in concrete very possible without substantial rebar.
Natural stone, or brick - more expensive than concrete/fake grass, hard, hot.
My research tells me the higher quality residential stuff includes some/all of these visible features:
1) Has texture to individual blades. Take a look at some real grass, some have a spine...in high quality grass, they recreate the spine.
2) Color variation among blades. I've seen two-three shades of green.
3) They also can include a "dead" grass, thatch, for realism (not weeds as someone stated).
4) Varied length
5) Varied width, both individual blades, as well as wide at base and narrow at tip.
6) Some are notably softer to walk on than others, but don't know what material makes a good surface.
That picture seems like the better quality stuff, not the highest, but most likely >$10/sqft range. It doesn't appear to look good as pictured because it's not completely installed. The blades are still leaning as it was just unrolled. There's also no infill to perk them up. What makes me think it's a better quality turf is the presence of a backing layer, both for comfort and for protection of the weave (this is an example of a non-visible advantage). Imagine the abrasion to the weave happening without the additional protective layer.
As for looks of the fake grass, when the neighboring trees drop their leaves and twigs and I let them be instead of sweeping them up, the solid green carpet suddenly looks more real...at least that's what I've been doing with the grass samples I've been given. Doesn't look bad at all.
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Archimedes
Fire Watcher
Four things. First, the grass itself is a nicer blade. Feels nicer, looks nicer. Second, the infill FT uses is proprietary. Makes the lawn feel very natural, shock absorbing and it puts a lot of pressure per square inch, so it keeps the lawn in place. Third, the FT design drains better, due both the rock base under the lawn and the design of the backing. If you just lay any of these products directly down on grass, it will not drain well. Fourth, the base work they do and the install process is very involved and well done. Part of what you are paying for is the base work.
You get what you pay for with these types of products. Even the high end stuff doesn't look exactly like grass, but it looks and feels a lot nicer than the lower end stuff. Whether its worth the price difference is subjective.
If you want to see what Field Turf looks like, go to this website and look at the picture on that page.
http://www.heavenlygreens.com/
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edisonbrize
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By choosing the correct topics here it gave the blogger the chance to write the perfect blog entry, this was it.
packnrat
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i rent so i have let the crab grass take over, it lives very good on almost no water. stays green real good.
very tough, very hardy, and low cost...almost "free"
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very tough, very hardy, and low cost...almost "free"
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SB22
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I have a small backyard in my townhome and put in a section of Pregra synthetic grass from Costco (~$350 for 1 roll). Love it, it's actually really nice and works perfectly for small areas. http://www.costco.com/Pregra-Artifi...lti-Blade-System-Series.product.11589557.html (Not the exact thing...but similar to what I have)
My reasons for fake grass:
1. Wanted somewhere for the dog to go to the restroom that drained, was easy to pickup on, and wouldn't smell.
2. Sunlight wasn't consistent enough to keep real grass looking good in the entire area
3. Storing/using a lawn mower in a townhome and such a small yard was ridiculous.
BTW...I take my shop vacuum into the back yard all the time and use that to suck up all the leaves, it's AWESOME
My reasons for fake grass:
1. Wanted somewhere for the dog to go to the restroom that drained, was easy to pickup on, and wouldn't smell.
2. Sunlight wasn't consistent enough to keep real grass looking good in the entire area
3. Storing/using a lawn mower in a townhome and such a small yard was ridiculous.
BTW...I take my shop vacuum into the back yard all the time and use that to suck up all the leaves, it's AWESOME
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