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BARF getting a poser rep.???

donoman said:

Robert's suggestion about the Ride Plan Description is Great. There should be an easy form that we can fill out and create a group ride with.


Dammit stop copying my ideas about the form to fill out. hehehe

Yeah, sometimes the bigger BARF rides are too social, but then again, I dont have a problem cause if I'm not up for the social ride then I dont go on those. I've found, and this is especially true on my longer full day (multiday) rides that hanging out with the people you ride is half the adventure. Of course, after a FULL day of riding hanging out over dinner and talkin shit is generally how I perfer that.

Smokers on long rides, man they are a handfull (mrtnz and nitro, I've got nothing but love but man you guys smoke a lot!! :twofinger)
 
Here are some things that crack me up about the post:

1) undertail pipe. could this be the stock 2002 VFR?
2) "for cheaper OR more money" what the fuck does this guy mean?
 
i was only briefly part of saturdays ride (Mill Valley to Marshall) due to some family events I had to attend to in the afternoon. the part of the ride I was on was a very nice mellow pace. plus I enjoyed being able to meet some Barfers for the first time (this was my first barf ride/event I attended). the thought of meeting some new people and riding was great.

maybe this guy needs to read the original thread a little closer, it did mention about stopping for lunch. anyway, my brief time on this ride was enjoyable. thanks again to those involved.
 
Holeshot said:
Haha! Oriental is a rug or a vase!

Heh heh. I didn't know that till I moved here. In Hawaii, Asians are also referred to "Orientals." But then again I'm Oriental so I can say that...don't call the PC police. :shhh
 
His latest reply:

"I had no intentions of disrupting this forum nor judge B.A.R.F as a whole with my comments which I have done and I do not mean to disrespect nor stir the pot aimed at an entire group of people in my prejudice left by the recent ride with the S.F B.A.R.F members trek for lunch.
I was just very disappointed on the recent *ride for lunch* when most were boasting of their riding skills, experience, bike with fancy performance products, and their bravado of *showing up the new guy* mentality even when cruising on the highway which speed limits was 65 mph and then later find the entire group panic braking, mid corner corrections, over-exaggerated body lean into the first 25mph bend, or rather, turn, in a still commercial/residential area.
But it was truly my fault of joining this ride, even though other people I know told me to seek elswhere for a ride since they also warned and proven to me that those on that S.F B.A.R.F can't ride--- at all. Shame on me. I should of listened to my instincts by staying home and watch porn.
True that this may have been a ride targeted towards new riders but I did not realize it was for those whom, in most probablity, just finished a MSF course or with only a driving permit and are riding their very first bike or borrowed a chums, or friend, rather, for this very ride most likely the very same weekend, or rather, that very same morning of this trek. Shame, shame. Yes, it is my fault that a rider is on an F4i too big for that person and made it be known that it was that person's recent purchase, and admits that the F4i was a bit large for that person in question, yet believes that wearing platform shoes will improve upon that person's riding skills <the shame I am feeling> or the other bloke, or person, rather, with a liter bike with the all the aftermarket products with tyres used often for the track duties and whine after every set of apexes that the tyres were sliding about Valentino Rossi style, mind you, in the 25 mph bends, or rather corners.
Yes, it is my fault that they all made sure that those in front show up those behind them by gassing it on the straightaway <Yes, at the blazing speed of 50mph but it was downhill so it may of been 53?> only to be in a state of shock to find another 25mph bend, or rather, another corner and watch 3 of them cross over the double yellow line while luckily being missed by the other 2 behind them , due to target fixation, and nearly rear ending them in the process. Yes, its my fault. Woe be unto me. No, Im only partially to blame here. The engineers who put that corner there should also be ashamed, so shame shame unto them as well. A pox upon them and their first-borns, I say.
And may the good heavens forgive me for the 25mph switchbacks, or decreasing radius corners nearly caused the same lot, or people, if you will, to nearly pile into one another in sheer fright. Forgiveth me, for I have sinned.
Yes its my fault that the entire destination for this ride was for lunch first and foremost while riding was not even really the goal but just a transportation to the buffet line at the eatery, or rather, deli. What was I thinking? Shame on me for assuming this was a *ride* for *riders*. Bad, bad me.
Perhaps the next time I attend this ride with the S.F B.A.R.F lot, or people, or maybe not, I should drive a minvan, or rather, the small yellow school bus reserved for the *special* ones and let them board while wearing their leathers, raceing boots, or platform shoes for some, and since they all must don a helmet, they should feel comfortable riding on the back of the bus. In all fairness, I should let a contestant of a Special Olympic drive the bus whom I believe will do a better job than the same bunch riding. It would of be just as exciting, and perhaps the ride would be even progressive moreso than taking 13 hour round trip time and cut it down to, perhaps, 5?
So again, I offer my dearest & sincerest form of self shame of this forum and the whole lot who is of B.A.R.F of my short-sightedness.
I shalt now lock myself in my room with a Playboy and Hustler magazine and hide in pennance for my sins. Or maybe just polish my bishop.
So for any shirt-tuckers that I may offend upon, accept my deepest most humble pardon."

I gotta give him credit. This is well written and very amusing.
 
you know.. i actually thought his first post was not that bad..

he was actually looking for a faster barf riders.. so what if he thought his first ride was too slow for him? atleast he had the balls to say it and ask for faster rides.

i think that sometimes there is too much hippy shit going on here.. barf is not all glory and great.. some riders here sucks (technically) and some riders are major posers from hell..

he is right in saying that in most of these barf rides..there are more social aspect than anything else.. so spoke the truth about some rides.. what's the big deal.

notice that no one really didn't argue against what he said about that particular ride.. everyone is just kinda pissed cuz they felt that they were judged by that particular ride.. if you are afraid of being judge as a 'whole' we should limit membership. we got some shitty riders, and we go some posers as well.. if you were afraid of being associated with them.. i don't think you belong to THIS forum.

would you be equally pissed if some newbie showed up to a fast ride and complained that the ride was too fast and barf riders are fucking crazy idiots? i don't think so.. you would simply tell him to go on different rides.. right? so why be so pissed about him saying that ride was too slow, social, and blah blah..

has he questioned your riding skill? you feel like you have to show him off? is this really about you? or is it really about him?


i think that his 2nd post is even better. The guy is pretty funny and sounds like a pretty ballsey guy.. i like him already..

now.. that gixxer2000 guy is a plain asshole and someone show put him in his place.. can one of you ex500 racers smoke his assone of these days and post about it? that would really make my day...

oh yah.. and stop passing me on your fucking ex500 .. it really hurts my feelings..

:teeth
 
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Robert R1 said:
I think it really comes down to the fact that he had different expectations from the ride. BARF is a HUGE group that's concentrated in one area. There are numerous rides going on all the time. I just think it would be better for new members and existing members if the Riders were posted in a format by the initial poster/organizer.

Example:

Day: 1/21/03
Meeting Location: Starbucks off N. Main and Treat Blvd. Walnut Creek
Time: 11:00am
Destination: Alhambra Valley Road, Bear creek, Skyline Redwood and back through with reverse route.
Type of Riders: Advanced/aggressive riders only.

A format such as above give a CLEAR sense of the ride planned and would eliminate confusison. As BARF gets bigger the format need to be more tidy.

I agree...but it'll be useless if they don't/can't read. This is what the thread from last Saturday said.

"Yes, this ride is quite easy, but it's all up to the rider to decide. Just don't ride over your head, go over the double yellows, & keep your eyes on the road since this ride is very scenic."

Is this statement straight forward or am I missing something?
 
yoda said:
I agree...but it'll be useless if they don't/can't read. This is what the thread from last Saturday said.

"Yes, this ride is quite easy, but it's all up to the rider to decide. Just don't ride over your head, go over the double yellows, & keep your eyes on the road since this ride is very scenic."

Is this statement straight forward or am I missing something?

yah.... in fact you are missing something :)

i am in IT..and one thing we learn after few years.. users do not read anything! they won't read warnings, manuals, packages, emails.. and etc..

you are expecting them to follow instructions.. which is really really tough thing for a person to do :)


HEHEH
 
dog_butter said:
you know.. i actually thought his first post was not that bad..

he was actually looking for a faster barf riders.. so what if he thought his first ride was too slow for him? atleast he had the balls to say it and ask for faster rides.

i think that sometimes there is too much hippy shit going on here.. barf is not all glory and great.. some riders here sucks (technically) and some riders are major posers from hell..

he is right in saying that in most of these barf rides..there are more social aspect than anything else.. so spoke the truth about some rides.. what's the big deal.


I think the big deal is that instead of looking for someone with his skill level, he just started whining. Also, I would like to know...if he was REALLY that miserable...why did he just leave the ride? I, myself, would know in the first 30 minutes whether or not the pace(be it slow or aggressive) is right for me.
 
Man Robert, this guy needs to join us! It sounds like when we first came on the forum and asked honest questions and got SLAMMED for it. Remember that?

So the guy didn't like the ride, and was looking for something more hardcore. It really sounds like the knee jerk reaction I would've given (although his post was funnier).

Defending the ride, especially if one was not on it, looks badly on this forum as well. We know it was a newb ride and who knows how the riders were ridding. With two crashing...I'd say not great.
I'm gonna ask him if he wants to do Starbucks rides with me.
 
dog_butter is right... and for the first time I think I agree with Robert R1 too! :twofinger :laughing

this guy obviously was looking for a faster, more advanced group of riders to ride with, and was disappointed with what he got. I don't approve of him making fun of those of us who are not as high a rider as he is, nor do I approve of the fact that he is extending his kind words towards all of BARFers.

I agree that a group ride's intentions (social, newbie ride, aggresive ride, etc.) should be more clearly communicated with those who take part, to avoid disappointments like these.

Also, there is NOTHING wrong with the social aspect of BARF rides. To me, that is what BARF is all about: social interaction between Bay Area riders. If one is bothered by this social aspect of the ride, then may be that person should not belong to BARF (as it seems to be in this case.)
 
kevo said:
Heh heh. I didn't know that till I moved here. In Hawaii, Asians are also referred to "Orientals." But then again I'm Oriental so I can say that...don't call the PC police. :shhh

hey man..

when they say oriental rugs.. where does it come from? or where does orient express train goes to? not to asia!

damn.. i hate being called oriental.

orient is like persia and the middle east.. sometimes even as far as india...

dang white people.. :cry
 
This guy is Hilarious !!!

For real... you guys have some serious issues for getting on him for stating his opinion about how he felt. This was nowhere near the level of Badgixxer.

Some people here have a serious inferiority complex when it comes to BARF. As soon as someone says something not necessarily positive... a herd of 500 BARFers jump on the guy.

In MY opinion, BARF has grown much too fast. We still need to implement some changes, and the ride info summary is a great idea. I'm sure this guy would have had a better admiration for BARF had he gone on an advanced ride.
 
Valgar said:
Why do you guys have to come down on ScorpioVI so hard?!?

:D

:laughing

Poor caucasian bastard . . . :twofinger

I think what I should have said earlier on in this thread is:

*** Hey everybody, look -- it's another contentious thread brought to you by the diminutive oompaloompas at RobertR1Co! ***

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hmmmmmm

:mad first let me start out by saying to you the individual whom wrote about the ride on sat.

First you can wright as eliquintly as you like the simple fact remains that the ride for sat. was posted and clearly stated to be just a social ride for lunch and back...IE " the scenic ride" If your reading skills were as good as your wrighting skills you would have known this !!!! Next time i suggest posting and asking what the pace is going to be like....If you are unsure...AS far as the pace goes i think it was very responsible on the part of weyland for leading at the pace we took in order to keeep the group together.. There were a number of newer riders with us and some not expecting to go out to skaggs IE jeans and street boots.... SO get your facts straight before you speak!!! Your only makin yourself sound more and more like a bafoon!!!

And it was made clear at the break before heading to skaggs that anyone who needed to or wanted to go ahead do so and wait at the bridge......

Now from my knowledge when we stopped at the entrance to skaggs a few of us group A were to go on ahead to get or speed on ... Hmmmmm now if i remember correctly i don't seem to remember you anywere remotely near us. myself, agent66, or igor....

point of fact :it was about 20 min. later that the next closest rider pulled up and it sure as hell was'nt you in fact it was ersigh, on her sv 650 hmmm i guess you could'nt hang huh??? oh i get it your a LENGEND IN YOUR OWN MIND HUH?? I must be lonely at the top ...A big fish in a little pond...

Before you talk smack know who the riders in your group are...

And as far as mrtnz is concerned you know nothing about her riding ability, Props to her for getting on her brand new ride and going at the pace she did!!!!!!! If you knew what you were talking about you'd know that if she was on her reg. bike ex. 250
she would've smoked your dumb ass i'm sure of it...

Any time you want to ride with agroup that, well " can ride at your pace "hit me up and i'll be more than happy to show you some roads!!!!! IN fact i feel you should come out on the thirty first to THUNDER HILL and run with us if you smoke me i'll pay for ya!!!! howd that be ..........

People should'nt pass judgement on those they don't know and judge riders based on the group ride there on..... my 2 pennies...
 
Re: hmmmmmm

nitro9292002 said:
:mad first let me start out by saying to you the individual whom wrote about the ride on sat.

First you can wright as eliquintly as you like the simple fact remains that the ride for sat. was posted and clearly stated to be just a social ride for lunch and back...IE " the scenic ride" If your reading skills were as good as your wrighting skills you would have known this !!!! Next time i suggest posting and asking what the pace is going to be like....If you are unsure...AS far as the pace goes i think it was very responsible on the part of weyland for leading at the pace we took in order to keeep the group together.. There were a number of newer riders with us and some not expecting to go out to skaggs IE jeans and street boots.... SO get your facts straight before you speak!!! Your only makin yourself sound more and more like a bafoon!!!

And it was made clear at the break before heading to skaggs that anyone who needed to or wanted to go ahead do so and wait at the bridge......

Now from my knowledge when we stopped at the entrance to skaggs a few of us group A were to go on ahead to get or speed on ... Hmmmmm now if i remember correctly i don't seem to remember you anywere remotely near us. myself, agent66, or igor....

point of fact :it was about 20 min. later that the next closest rider pulled up and it sure as hell was'nt you in fact it was ersigh, on her sv 650 hmmm i guess you could'nt hang huh??? oh i get it your a LENGEND IN YOUR OWN MIND HUH?? I must be lonely at the top ...A big fish in a little pond...

Before you talk smack know who the riders in your group are...

And as far as mrtnz is concerned you know nothing about her riding ability, Props to her for getting on her brand new ride and going at the pace she did!!!!!!! If you knew what you were talking about you'd know that if she was on her reg. bike ex. 250
she would've smoked your dumb ass i'm sure of it...

Any time you want to ride with agroup that, well " can ride at your pace "hit me up and i'll be more than happy to show you some roads!!!!! IN fact i feel you should come out on the thirty first to THUNDER HILL and run with us if you smoke me i'll pay for ya!!!! howd that be ..........

People should'nt pass judgement on those they don't know and judge riders based on the group ride there on..... my 2 pennies...

Hopefully this isnt for real---Dude chill out---BTW- NONE of the fastest guys on 9 talk this shite!!!!!

"IN fact i feel you should come out on the thirty first to THUNDER HILL and run with us if you smoke me i'll pay for ya!!!! howd that be .........."---Id love to take that bet---
 
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