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kangaroo
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This type of topic always falls back on the ethics of issuing such citations in such circumstances. Should the police lie in wait camouflaged, heck then why drive in black and whites and wear uniforms at all? You could probably give out more tickets that way then.
I'm looking at an antiquated speed measuring system that hasn't changed in over 50 years and yet in that time technology has advanced far enough to let people drive much faster than the laws allow. So for most people breaking speed laws because of its uselessness seems by default to be common sense. Now enforcing such laws than goes counter to common sense and the enforcement agencies are confounded by the public backlash.
There is a very good laser scrambler on the market currently
Cheyenne
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Really? Mine was fine at 90, purred like a kitten.
In spite of being one of the shorter geared Hondas, and also one with an engine configuration that put it under more stress than the average American V8...It just that it was so well built, to such exact tolerances, with such advanced materials treatments, that it not only worked well and ran smooth, but was also reliable.
Yup, "just" a Honda...
Just curious- what technology has been introduced in the last 50 years that has improved human reflexes? This is the limiter to safe highway driving- not faster cars or motorcycles. Dumbasses that leave less than one car length buffer in the fast lane at 80 mph are proof that this country is too stupid to have a faster speed limit. Go to Europe and see how people can drive responsibly at faster speeds.
Nemesis
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Um, if you were the only one around and you were going say 5-10 mph over the speed limit you can agrue it was still safe to exceed the speed limit, or does that rule only apply to roads (non-highways)?
I forget what the vehicle code was but I fought a similar ticket arguing the above and won. And yes he Lidar'd me but I was on public roads, not highway.
I forget what the vehicle code was but I fought a similar ticket arguing the above and won. And yes he Lidar'd me but I was on public roads, not highway.
kangaroo
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Cheyenne
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It's common, but is in sense?
How many of those drivers could adequately cope with a catastrophic blowout at 75?
kangaroo
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Pfffttt your own statement contradicts itself. One we haven't changed yet you cite a place Europe that actually does drive faster than 50 years ago. Oh wait most of the autobahn back then never had any speed limits driving beetles at as-fast-as-you-can speeds...
If the freeways were a little more "unsafe" and "faster," you might have more people paying attention to driving than let's see, texting, reading, eating, hogging the fast lane in their prius maximizing their mpg.
depends on which cvc code they get you for. unsafe speed vs. max speed
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Yep- and the LIDAR will display JAM and then you have a REALLY expensive ticket. :|
Razel
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Maximum speed limits don't have leeway to argue that it was safe. 65 is the maximum on multi-laned roads unless posted for 70. 55 is the maximum on a 2 laned highway (one lane in each direction) unless posted higher. 25 for residential. Government saves money by not having to post speed limit signs that way, too.
Sorry to tell you, but all public roads are "highways".
kangaroo
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Is there that much of a difference in how a driver reacts whether it was 55 or 65 or 75 when such an event takes place? Most accidents that occur after a blowout is due to the driver applying brakes instead of letting the vehicle come to a stop.
The goal is to reduce roadway deaths. I don't issue everyone person I stop the citation. Sometimes I give a warning, sometimes I give the citation. CHP policy states that (to paraphrase) every officer should have already have determined the outcome of the contact prior to making contact. This means I should already have made up my mind, and not be swayed one way or the other.
People follow the law when they think that they are going to get caught.
A speeding citation at 3 in the morning accomplishes a few things:
1. Reduces the overall freeway speed. Most everyone who sees someone getting ticket, slows down.
2. Speeding at night, on the freeway, at 3 is dangerous because at that time of night there blacked out vehicles, black ice, impaired driver's, to mention a few.
3. The person who gets the citation, normally, slows down for sometime until they think they wont get caught and resume driving habits.
Again, people think that speeding tickets are bullshit tickets, but speed enforcement does save lives.
My beat is highway 17. When I was working 8 hr shift, I would issue between 6-10 citations a day for speed, and a couple more for unsafe lane changes, following to close, and other moving violations.
When I'm out conducting enforcement, the number of traffic collisions are greatly reduced. People are afraid of getting a ticket, therefore they don't crash as often because they are operating their vehicles as they should be.
When I'm not on my beat, say on another roadway due to any number of reasons, the freeway speed increases, the asshattery increases, and the number of traffic collisions increase.
Whether people like it or not, whether people feel that all we do is generating income for the city or state, is completely understandable. This is because people don't like getting tickets, and secondly, don't like having to pay in these tough times.
If the citizens of California feel that the fines are to much, lobby the legislation to have the fines, taxes, administration fees, reduced or dismissed.
The beat cops primary goal is to reduce the death rate on the highways, first and foremost.
All roads in california are defined as a "highway".
Nemesis
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kangaroo
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Well you don't have to make it conspicuous.
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kangaroo
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could be faulty equipment? -Cough- -Cough-
You've totally missed my point. Yes, drivers on the autobahn or on some of the French autoroutes have always driven faster than US speed limits, and yet they managed to do so more safely in a Beetle 50 years ago than most people in the US can do today in a fancy crash-tested car with 11 airbags. Why? Because they don't drive like asshats. They keep to the right unless passing. They actually use their blinkers. They slow down when it's night time or raining or fog or snow or whatever. You know, all the "common sense" stuff that you don't see in this country.
If I understand your last sentence, you believe that if highway speed limits were higher people would pay attention more and text less? That's the silliest thing I've ever heard.
