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College campuses as safe spaces for students

RRR70 said:
The same Klan that was founded by democrats? :laughing
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Yep. Imagine that... things change over time. Which wby its super helpfull to use descriptive language when talking about stuff like this.
 
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Karbon said:
That's fine, and i generally agree with hou, but i tbink when it comes discussions like this, if we are indeed having one, it helpful to define one's terms/language.
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I forget most people here don't watch the youtube clips I post to help me explain stuff.
The regressive left to paraphrase dr Gaad Saad are the far left liberals who worship at the altar of "no offense" willing to sacrifice anything for it. especially free speech which most times is very antagonistic to their agenda.
They are professional victims and their favorite tactics for silencing those that disagree is to smear them with labels such as racist, sexist, bigot instead of debating ideas in order to find a middle ground.
Non muslim Islam apologists, so called "3rd wave" radical feminists, social justice warriors [SJW's] are all factions of this regressive left movement that is widespread especially across liberal colleges across the western world
 
Karbon said:
Yep. Imagine that things change over time. Which makes it super helpfull to use descriptive language when talking about stuff like this.
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That's why I said that liberal ideas that country was founded on are far from those students want.
 
RRR70 said:
That's why I said that liberal ideas that country was founded on are far from those students want.
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And there are a lot of liberal who 100% agree with that statement.
Thats exactly why me and many others liberals for who freedom of speech is the holiest of holy try to bring awareness between us and the regressive left.
 
Corb said:
I forget most people here don't watch the youtube clips I post to help me explain stuff.
The regressive left to paraphrase dr Gaad Saad are the far left liberals who worship at the altar of "no offense" willing to sacrifice anything for it. especially free speech which most times is very antagonistic to their agenda. They are professional victims and their favorite tactics for silencing those that disagree is to smear them with labels such as racist, sexist, bigot instead of debating ideas in order to find a middle ground.
Non muslim Islam apologists, so called "3rd wave" radical feminists, social justice warriors [SJW's] are all factions of this regressive left movement that is widespread especially across liberal colleges across the western world
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word, i understand all of that. Saw the same yt vids. Those people are generally either unreasonable and or misguded, despite their intent to want to do good in the world.

I suppose my other point is language (use of it) kind of defines and describes your reality.


RRR70 said:
That's why I said that liberal ideas that country was founded on are far from those students want.
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It's good for everyone to speak in non-bumper sticker terms. Because for a moment there it sounded like you were lumping all people who ascribe to liberal values with those people at the rally.
 
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Karbon said:
It's too bad for you this country is founded on liberal priciples.
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Except that Classical Liberalism back then was not and is not anything near resembling what we term as liberalism today. The two are distinctly different in their inherent nature and principles. In other words you are comparing apples to oranges here.
 
Dug said:
Except that Classical Liberalism back then was not and is not anything near resembling what we term as liberalism today. The two are distinctly different in their inherent nature and principles. In other words you are comparing apples to oranges here.
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Who distinguishes the difference? In which context? Is it fair to say free speech is still a liberal principle?

My point is the word liberal is really not a very concise or useful word to fully describe these people.
 
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Stormdragon said:
The Democrats that founded the Klan, would now be Republicans. The former Republicans would now be Democrats. You need another leg for your tripod methinks.
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You need to buy a sense of humor. :laughing
 
Karbon said:
Who distinguishes the difference? In which context? Is it fair to say free speech is still a liberal principle?

My point is the word liberal is really not a very concise or useful word to fully describe these people.
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The differences are pretty clear to anyone paying attention. The claptrap masquerading itself and "liberalism" or otherwise known as the "progressive" movement today on college campuses across the US has zero resemblance to the Classical Liberalism of the past that was at the core of the founding principals of this nation. If you are not towing the line with these folks today on a college campus they will do everything in their power to remove you or force you into compliance with their views. Everything from shouting someone down, to using intimidation tactics of lopsided confrontations, to doxing, to slapping false labels and generalizations to attempt to demonize, and vilify, to flat out making up bullshit events, etc. There is no debate of conflicting ideas, or criticism allowed if it goes against the "Narrative". These folks are prime real world examples of INGSOC. party members.
 
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RRR70 said:
To me words mean whatever meaning you assign to them. When I wrote what I did my intent was to insult generation of kids that are ruining future of this country. I know what some people use word cunt as a derogatory term toward women. To me this word is gender neutral. I apologize for offending some people.







P.S. :love
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That's how I see it too. If I call somebody a dick, I am basically calling them an a-hole. It is not a derogatory term toward men, and it can be used as an insult toward either gender.

RRR70 said:
Liberalism is a mental disorder.
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RRR70 said:
Don't confuse liberty with liberalism.
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This country was absolutely founded on liberal principles. The problem is that today many people who call themselves liberal are far from it. The people we are talking about here are more authoritarian left progressives. Equating them to liberals is like saying Nazis are conservative. Even though they may say that they are liberal, I don't even think they know what that means.
 
RRR70 said:
So you have no problem with the way those students behave?
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Not really, I don't go to Yale or live nearby and have better things to worry about than the behavior of Ivy League college kids. :laughing
 
Dug said:
The differences are pretty clear to anyone paying attention. The claptrap masquerading itself and "liberalism" or otherwise known as the "progressive" movement today on college campuses across the US has zero resemblance to the Classical Liberalism of the past that was at the core of the founding principals of this nation. If you are not towing the line with these folks today on a college campus they will do everything in their power to remove you or force you into compliance with their views. Everything from shouting someone down, to using intimidation tactics of lopsided confrontations, to doxing, to slapping false labels and generalizations to attempt to demonize, and vilify, to flat out making up bullshit events, etc. There is no debate of conflicting ideas, or criticism allowed if it goes against the "Narrative". These folks are prime real world examples of INGSOC. party members.
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I know. My point still stands, especially when the definition of a political philosophy is conflated with, or turned into a pejorative term.
 
RRR70 said:
Future leaders.
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Are you assuming people dont change their minds and ideas?

Have you ever had period of your life when you were idealistic?

Idk, all I see are a bunch of entitled, idealistic, well meaning but misguided kids.
 
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Karbon said:
Are you assuming people dont change their minds and ideas?

Have you ever had period of your life when you were idealistic?
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Did you see the video of a professor that was trying to throw reporter out? Do you pay attention to the proposals that some of the politicians put forth?
 
RRR70 said:
Did you see the video of a professor that was trying to throw reporter out? Do you pay attention to the proposals that some of the politicians put forth?
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Yeah it's dumb and futile, and as typical its a relatively small minority of loud people who carry these torches. And I would say the worry about free speech rights being taken away as we know it is overblown and sensationalistic.
 
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