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Dave Chappelle

cheez said:
You are wrong; I don't care about being correct, I care about advancing the conversation. We spent several posts unpacking your misunderstanding of what "shouting down" someone meant; your "broader definition" isn't supported anywhere but in your mind and misinterpretation of the act. You then proceeded to tar those participating in a fundamental act of free speech- voicing their opinion- as somehow bad because of your misinterpretation. Once you agreed that you meant "folks committing crimes to sabotage the exercise of rights of those they disagree with" and not "shouting them down" the conversation could advance.

You're right, it's about definitions, which are readily referenceable on the Internet and one can use to check to validate they're saying what they mean, instead of saying something which actually conflicts with their value structure in meaning.

:)

BTW, here you are ignoring the entire "cancel culture" concept in favor of the strict definition of "his show has been canceled", that you can find "cancel culture" defined all over the darn place doesn't stop you from trying to "score points" as you've accused me of in your rebuttal. D'oh. Goood luck reconciling that, I'll leave ya to it. :D
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LOL. If my definition is incorrect and too broad (it was), then I didn't "tar" those who only engage in shouting, right? I tarred those who engage in violence and strongarm tactics. Duh?

If you truly cared about advancing the conversation, you could have simply asked how I define "shouting down." Oh well, enough nonsense, see ya!
 
TylerW said:
Dude, you're in some serious truth denialism over the positive outcomes of protest movements, both historical and contemporary.
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:laughing Thank you for proving my point. As protestors are protesting about protests at protests, they can do the shit they are going to do.

Activists are annoying separate from protests, because they will not shut up about their pet projects even when they are not at a bloody protests. Even activists for bloody issues I support get aggravating after not too long.

:laughing
 
cheez said:
You are wrong; I don't care about being correct, I care about advancing the conversation. We spent several posts unpacking your misunderstanding of what "shouting down" someone meant; your "broader definition" isn't supported anywhere but in your mind and misinterpretation of the act. You then proceeded to tar those participating in a fundamental act of free speech- voicing their opinion- as somehow bad because of your misinterpretation. Once you agreed that you meant "folks committing crimes to sabotage the exercise of rights of those they disagree with" and not "shouting them down" the conversation could advance.

You're right, it's about definitions, which are readily referenceable on the Internet and one can use to check to validate they're saying what they mean, instead of saying something which actually conflicts with their value structure in meaning.

:)

BTW, here you are ignoring the entire "cancel culture" concept in favor of the strict definition of "his show has been canceled", that you can find "cancel culture" defined all over the darn place doesn't stop you from trying to "score points" as you've accused me of in your rebuttal. D'oh. Goood luck reconciling that, I'll leave ya to it. :D
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jdhu said:
LOL. If my definition is incorrect and too broad (it was), then I didn't "tar" those who only engage in shouting, right? I tarred those who engage in violence and strongarm tactics. Duh?

If you truly cared about advancing the conversation, you could have simply asked how I define "shouting down." Oh well, enough nonsense, see ya!
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Ok, now kiss. :)
 
TylerW said:
Ok, now kiss. :)
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you punch down when you get the mudderfooker on the ground. you punch up to execute the technique to put the mudderfucker on the ground.

you all arguing about pre fight bullshit, understand there is a real fight brewing and it will tear this country apart.
If we're at the point that comedians or head coaches mean that much then we've gone over the yellow line.
 
One thing we can all agree on - twitter isn't a real place
 
Eldritch said:
:laughing Thank you for proving my point. As protestors are protesting about protests at protests, they can do the shit they are going to do.

Activists are annoying separate from protests, because they will not shut up about their pet projects even when they are not at a bloody protests. Even activists for bloody issues I support get aggravating after not too long.

:laughing
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I'm really sorry that nothing you've ever cared about has been protested for. It must be a lonely place.

That's not my business though.
 
TylerW said:
Do you believe a person can excuse everything they say by saying "I'm only joking"?
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Obviously not everyone but some have earned more leeway than others. Like everything else in life, comes with practice and paying your dues.

Of course there will always be someone take offence even to jokes you yourself might consider innocent and non offensive. Can’t live in a vacuum for fair of someone being insulted.
 
Blankpage said:
Obviously not everyone but some have earned more leeway than others. Like everything else in life, comes with practice and paying your dues.

Of course there will always be someone take offence even to jokes you yourself might consider innocent and non offensive. Can’t live in a vacuum for fair of someone being insulted.
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Let me ask this a different way: In our modern day, we are given endless opportunity for us to express ourselves to the world: truthfully, farcifully, and everything in between.

Why should I take you at your word? Why should I trust that you stand by what you say? I have no evidence to support it.
 
We’re talking comedians right. Obviously there are scumbags and racist out in the world who mean it exactly as they say it.
 
TylerW said:
I'm really sorry that nothing you've ever cared about has been protested for. It must be a lonely place.

That's not my business though.
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No dude, that isn't what I said, read it again. People regularly protest in favor of causes I feel very strongly about. Even so, they annoy me in a very short time. I will not be influenced, I will not be convinced. I accept nothing save the conclusions I develop from my own observations and only in my own time. My ideals exist beholden to no one and accountable only to me.

Missionaries, Salesmen, and Activists all do not have a good time with me.

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Blankpage said:
We’re talking comedians right. Obviously there are scumbags and racist out in the world who mean it exactly as they say it.
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My point is, I don't you very well. When you speak knowledgeably about something, I take you at your word. I may not agree with you, but I recognize you are speaking honestly. When you speak about yourself- that's the best truth you could possibly know. I accept it as the truth.

If a comedian says something about themselves, should I assume its a lie, because they're a comedian?
 
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