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Draggin Jeans ?

Gixxergirl1000 said:
Please don't ride in just those... buy textile overpants and knee/shin guards...
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I got knee and shin guards. Im about to upgrade to the new Forcefield Zeus Knee Protection coming out in Spring.

I got riding shoes too.

Overpants will be for when I go to work. Or put over the kevlar jeans. I doubt I will be wearing two pants though.
 
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Cire 5th said:
I got knee and shin guards. Im about to upgrade to the new Forcefield Zeus Knee Protection coming out in Spring.

I got riding shoes too.

Overpants will be for when I go to work. Or put over the kevlar jeans. I doubt I will be wearing two pants though.
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I would strongly encourage you to invest in a really good pair of textile overpants, and just take the Kevlar jeans back. You can wear regular jeans under the textiles, with your knee/shin guards, and good boots, and be safe... but riding in just the kevlar jeans is less than optimal... :2cents

Cire 5th said:
dang, what color are your eyes?
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Green...
 
Wow, I am old school, meaning pre shin guards, pre Kevlar, pre dragon jeans. We found the best we could and that was army camo. Two layers of fabric at the knees and butt plus big hip pockets that essentially gave you two layers of fabric at some of the hip.

In my opinion it's a cool and tough look, but does leave wanting for more protection.

And for those of you that don't know me, I am a full one piece leather suit with all the best armor bits kinda rider on the back roads, but in the city or cow town where I live, I tend to go light, thus camo.
 
I love that this thread got revived not cause I care about the topic...

But because I was wondering about the OP and I haven't heard from him in wayyyy too long

Keith, I hope you're still around and that you've given up jumping you're Zx6... :rofl
 
Back on topic... ;-)

I've road-tested a few pair of DJs over the years. I went down in a pair of black Draggin' Jeans about 10 years ago in the canyons and landed on my knees on about the roughest asphalt you can imagine. Tore right through the knees and on the right side, right through the Kevlar lining. My right knee looked like it took a shotgun blast point blank.

Finally got them repaired last year by a jean repair service and got taken out on the freeway in them a couple weeks ago. Landed on my left hip and got a nasty mega bruise and some friction burns but the jeans came out completely unscathed. I guess that would mean they did their job.

Whatever, I really like them because they are thicker than regular jeans with the added, er...protection of the Kevlar lining. And they look like regular jeans. I also have a pair of their cargo riding pants and they are great too. Not sure if they still make them like they used to.

I remember way back when that the ones to order were those from the Canadian distributor. I don't remember exactly why but they were different or better than their U.S. made or sold counterparts. That might not be the case anymore. That was a decade ago. Just sayin.
 
canyonrat said:
Pic off the internet. Cool look, he needs boots though.
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And when I learned to ride, back in the day, you couldn't buy gear off the rack like you can today. I'm lucky I'm not scarred up, considering how I used to ride and the skills I didn't have.
I don't look back on those days fondly.
And I look at that pic of the guy wearing camos, and all I can do is shake my head... and then cringe at the mental picture of the way his ankles and knees look when he gets taken out by a soccer mom in an SUV...

Zippy994 said:
Back on topic... ;-)

I've road-tested a few pair of DJs over the years. I went down in a pair of black Draggin' Jeans about 10 years ago in the canyons and landed on my knees on about the roughest asphalt you can imagine. Tore right through the knees and on the right side, right through the Kevlar lining. My right knee looked like it took a shotgun blast point blank.

Finally got them repaired last year by a jean repair service and got taken out on the freeway in them a couple weeks ago. Landed on my left hip and got a nasty mega bruise and some friction burns but the jeans came out completely unscathed. I guess that would mean they did their job.

Whatever, I really like them because they are thicker than regular jeans with the added, er...protection of the Kevlar lining. And they look like regular jeans. I also have a pair of their cargo riding pants and they are great too. Not sure if they still make them like they used to.

I remember way back when that the ones to order were those from the Canadian distributor. I don't remember exactly why but they were different or better than their U.S. made or sold counterparts. That might not be the case anymore. That was a decade ago. Just sayin.
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Soooo... they have a 50% failure rate...
 
Is it that much more trouble putting on your leather pants vs jeans? Yeah, they ain't as comfortable walking around/etc., and if I was driving my car, it'd be a PIA, but I'm NOT! I'm not busting anybody's chops here, but your on a m/c and hitting the pavement is a possibility. Would you wear 'jeans' at track day?
 
3B43 said:
Is it that much more trouble putting on your leather pants vs jeans? Yeah, they ain't as comfortable walking around/etc., and if I was driving my car, it'd be a PIA, but I'm NOT! I'm not busting anybody's chops here, but your on a m/c and hitting the pavement is a possibility. Would you wear 'jeans' at track day?
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OK, how sad is this? My leathers are my favorite/most comfortable "outfit"... god that's embarrassing... :facepalm
 
Gixxergirl1000 said:
The reason the textile wore through where it did is because it was over the back protector (a hard surface, with no give). Basically, I look on textile gear as being more or less disposable... it'll do it's job in a crash, but you'll probably be replacing it after.
I've never dealt with blood or road rash on anyone who's crashed in leathers, or textiles, but I have with the kevlar jeans.Truth is, the extent of damage gear takes in a crash is dependent on a lot of variables... speed, type of crash, duration of slide, what's under it... but leather has proven its value over and over.
There's a guy on the forum who periodically points out that he crashed naked and didn't get any injuries (I don't even want to know the backstory on that...), but is that how anyone would want to crash? Probably not... :laughing sometimes it's luck. But I don't want to count on luck, so I wear leather, no matter how warm it is (and I regularly go out riding in triple digit temps).
I own a textile jacket. I've never worn it. In fact, I'm doing a gear give-away later this month, and that's one of the things that's going.

Personal safety and personal risk are just that- personal. Make your choices, take your chances. To me, the sport is risky enough without adding to it by cutting corners with gear. :2cents
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Would you please tell us more about the damage to the jeans? I am curious how they hold up on the rear/thigh area.

Zippy994 said:
Back on topic... ;-)

I've road-tested a few pair of DJs over the years. I went down in a pair of black Draggin' Jeans about 10 years ago in the canyons and landed on my knees on about the roughest asphalt you can imagine. Tore right through the knees and on the right side, right through the Kevlar lining. My right knee looked like it took a shotgun blast point blank.

Finally got them repaired last year by a jean repair service and got taken out on the freeway in them a couple weeks ago. Landed on my left hip and got a nasty mega bruise and some friction burns but the jeans came out completely unscathed. I guess that would mean they did their job.

Whatever, I really like them because they are thicker than regular jeans with the added, er...protection of the Kevlar lining. And they look like regular jeans. I also have a pair of their cargo riding pants and they are great too. Not sure if they still make them like they used to.

I remember way back when that the ones to order were those from the Canadian distributor. I don't remember exactly why but they were different or better than their U.S. made or sold counterparts. That might not be the case anymore. That was a decade ago. Just sayin.
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Pics? Were you riding with jeans under the DJs?
 
Entoptic said:
Would you please tell us more about the damage to the jeans? I am curious how they hold up on the rear/thigh area.
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As I recall, there were 2 rips, resulting in a fair amount of hamburger, and a seam failure... burned through the seam, at the hip? Wasn't paying a whole lot of attention to what damage the gear sustained, I was more concerned with getting them medical help.

In a perfect world, for a short slide, the kevlar will do its thing. But the roads aren't perfect worlds... and when all is said and done, they're still denim, and if denim gets snagged hard enough, it's going to tear, and then the kevlar can't do its thing.

Realistically, in talking with people at the 1Rider events and just in general, my personal take on the reason for the Kevlar jeans is that people are wearing them because they think they're more "cool" (for lack of a better term) than textiles... they want the convenience of jeans, or they think textiles look "gay" (heard that term more than once) or don't want to deal with having to put the textiles on... or leathers are "too hot" (whatever- I'm out in triple digit temps all summer!)...

IMHO, kevlar jeans are cutting corners with your safety. For me, that's just not an option. Years ago, when I was 19, right before I bought my first street bike, an idiot showing off tossed his Ninja down the road with me on the back, doing about 55. No helmet, no gloves, no boots, no jacket- just a fleece pullover and jeans.
I was amazingly lucky- no actual injuries except 2 dime-sized spots of road rash, one on the back of my hand, one on my elbow.
I cannot even BEGIN to tell you how badly those hurt!!! And all these years later, and there's still a faint scar from it.
The idea of having BIG patches of road rash makes me shudder and my skin crawl. In my mind, Kevlar jeans open up the possibility of a world of road rash hurt... or hamburgered body parts... or hey, a knee that looks like it took a shotgun blast.
Why risk it? :dunno
 
Just my quick outlook on the situation with off topic comparison

Riding jeans are better than regular jeans= Getting shot with a .22 is better than getting shot by a 9mm.
Textiles= pellet gun (may or may not puncture the skin)
leathers= paintball (you get some bruising but at the end of the day you will probably be drinking a beer and laughing about it)

I actually prefer my 2 piece leathers for ease of use and comfort. You get a little more circulation as they let the wind get down and out of the jacket in the front. shoulder vents let airflow down the back. detach and remove the jacket for breaks or just leave it ziped together and let it hang for short stops. Here in ukiah you can see 113 degree days a lot during the summer and the RC51 is known for frying its riders with engine heat. Never had a problem with heat. If I started doing more trackdays I might get a 1 piece but have crashed twice in a 2 piece and never had the pants-to-jacket zipper fail.
 
There are jeans that are CE rated gear. These include models from the Australian Draggin Jeans company, and from Drayko, which seems to be the name they're sold under here. www.drayko.com

The fact that they're CE rated means they've been tested to a higher standard than most of the gear we can find in our local shop.

Just because most motorcycle jeans are light on protection doesn't mean all are.
 
davidji said:
There are jeans that are CE rated gear. These include models from the Australian Draggin Jeans company, and from Drayko, which seems to be the name they're sold under here. www.drayko.com

The fact that they're CE rated means they've been tested to a higher standard than most of the gear we can find in our local shop.

Just because most motorcycle jeans are light on protection doesn't mean all are.
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Agree, I ordered it few weeks ago! Ill post a quick review on the reviews thread!
 
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