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Draggin Jeans ?

kaczx6r said:
Cool Thanks Connie, I will look into some Textile gear.
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Look for good stuff. A lot of low-end textile gear is questionable. In general textile pants might be better than motorcycle jeans, but I think the better jeans (e.g. ones that pass CE seam-burst tests) are better than crappy textiles.
 
Kurosaki said:
Or accept the risk of jeans (most do).
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One might think that, but in my opinion, the majority of those wearing jeans don't understand the risk. And therefore, can't really accept the risk. The majority are clueless as to what happens.

Reminds me of a guy who went wide on a simple corner out on McKean Road. 'Helped him get his bike out of the ditch and back on the road. He was wearing a jacket and boots and glooves and all, but he was wearing jeans. His knee made quick contact with the pavement as he went off the road. Though he rode away (straight to the nearest hospital), he was looking at skin grafts for his knee. Ugly.
 
ST Guy said:
One might think that, but in my opinion, the majority of those wearing jeans don't understand the risk. And therefore, can't really accept the risk. The majority are clueless as to what happens.

Reminds me of a guy who went wide on a simple corner out on McKean Road. 'Helped him get his bike out of the ditch and back on the road. He was wearing a jacket and boots and glooves and all, but he was wearing jeans. His knee made quick contact with the pavement as he went off the road. Though he rode away (straight to the nearest hospital), he was looking at skin grafts for his knee. Ugly.
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Not sure I see anyone on here advocating fashion jeans over kevlar jeans.
 
enki said:
Guess you don't ride much in the Valleys. Heatstroke would get you before the crash.
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I rode from Dallas to SF in the summer a couple years ago in full gear, 115 in the shade.
 
Dragon jeans are just that jeans. The ONLY difference from Dragon jeans and the jeans you can buy @ Old Navy are...

Kevlar patches in contact areas (butt, & knees)
The jeans are slightly thicker

Kevlar isn't a pad nor is it much stronger than a jean. It's main purpose is a heat reducer. The friction from you sliding causes heat and then the jeans usually tear mostly from that. With kevlar in places it reduces absorbs the heat allowing the jean to last just a little longer.

Are they better than jeans... I guess but not by much.
 
afm199 said:
Of course. It's your ass and you know the dangers.
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Are you then unwilling to admit that heat exhaustion and heat stroke are a reality faced by people that dress inappropriately for higher temperatures both on and off a motorcycle then? :dunno
 
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sidewazzz said:
Dragon jeans are just that jeans. The ONLY difference from Dragon jeans and the jeans you can buy @ Old Navy are...

Kevlar patches in contact areas (butt, & knees)
The jeans are slightly thicker

Kevlar isn't a pad nor is it much stronger than a jean. It's main purpose is a heat reducer. The friction from you sliding causes heat and then the jeans usually tear mostly from that. With kevlar in places it reduces absorbs the heat allowing the jean to last just a little longer.

Are they better than jeans... I guess but not by much.
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Click on one of these links.

Regular Jeans lasted 10 feet while the Kevlar was still not worn through at 100 feet.

So while Kevlar Jeans are nowhere near as protective as my Aeorstich which I wear in the fall and winter, or full leathers, they are by far a better choice than regular jeans; they're more than "just a little bit better."

http://www.dragginjeans.com/custom.aspx?id=1
 
GAJ said:
Click on one of these links.

Regular Jeans lasted 10 feet while the Kevlar was still not worn through at 100 feet.

So while Kevlar Jeans are nowhere near as protective as my Aeorstich which I wear in the fall and winter, or full leathers, they are by far a better choice than regular jeans; they're more than "just a little bit better."

http://www.dragginjeans.com/custom.aspx?id=1
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Don't need a link, I've worked for a company that made the same exact product. I'll be nice the tell you they are better but not by much. Though it may end up being the difference between road rash and a skin graph.
 
GAJ said:
So while Kevlar Jeans are nowhere near as protective as my Aeorstich which I wear in the fall and winter,
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That may be true, though I'd be surprised to see the stitch last 100' in that test.
 
GAJ said:
Click on one of these links.

Regular Jeans lasted 10 feet while the Kevlar was still not worn through at 100 feet.

So while Kevlar Jeans are nowhere near as protective as my Aeorstich which I wear in the fall and winter, or full leathers, they are by far a better choice than regular jeans; they're more than "just a little bit better."

http://www.dragginjeans.com/custom.aspx?id=1
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Dumb test. They're hardly going above walking speed in one test and in the other, they start off slow and stop as soon as they get up to speed (only 25 to 30 mph). Let's see him drop down on his butt when he's already doing 60. In a few short fractions of a second, he'd have a serious burn just before the Kevlar wears through and he shreds himself.

And who the hell falls off a bike and slides carefully along on one particular area of their clothing? Can it happen that way? Sure. I might father a child one day, in spite of my vasectomy, but the chances aren't very good. Remember, if you do happen to skid along only on your butt, there is going to be a TREMENDOUS amount of heat generated. And it's all going into your skin. Marginal protection at best.

Reinforced jeans are an idea that seems good at first glance, but when exposed to closer scrutiny turns out to be very, very flawed.
 
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davidji said:
The same exact product with the same textiles and construction methods? Or something similar but different?
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The SAME thing, actually the only difference may have been 1-2 mm of jean.

When you think of the consept it's great but in actuallity... your chances of sliding for the duration of your crash on these 6x10 peaces of kevlar is pretty small. You might as well wear a pair of Lee jeans an keep your wallet in your back pocket.
 
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Kornholio said:
Again, if you people want to pretend you understand it better than generations of folks that live in actual desert conditions, go right ahead. How often do you see Middle Eastern people falling out due to heat exhaustion? Seriously, those fuckers lay new blacktop when it's 130 outside and the sun is directly overhead in the middle of July. You can't even begin to imagine what it's like to stand on a flight line with your boots sinking into the black tarmac.
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Kornholio said:
Are you then unwilling to admit that heat exhaustion and heat stroke are a reality faced by people that dress inappropriately for higher temperatures both on and off a motorcycle then? :dunno
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How they deal with heat (dress up in layers)
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How we deal with heat (look cool)
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It's not the fact that it's layered, Roman. It's the fact that it's loose fitting. That's the part that people are not grasping. Tight-fitting clothing does not allow your skin to breathe.
 
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