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Energica is done

It's dependent on if the company is there to support it. For the most part electric motorcycles hold their value pretty well. The Light Bee is still hovering around $3000 even though all this new competition is out there. Zero motorcycles still hold their value pretty well.

Probably another 10 years and we'll have better batteries. From what I hear Mercedes has a car with solid state batteries. The technology for solid state batteries is nearly here however from what hear it's not cheap and batteries are the #1 cost in an electric motorcycle. I think solid state batteries will make the electric motorcycle comparable to gas bikes. They will be safer, lighter, longer lasting, etc...
 
ST Guy said:
I would never buy an electric vehicle of any type unless I had extra money to throw down the toilet.
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EVs are my favorite vehicles for several reasons. I now own seven EVs, five electric motorcycles and two electric cars. They get the most use of all my vehicles.

I love the way regen works in the hills around here. And the EVs have so much torque they don't notice when you're going uphill (except for battery drain) and still no gears to shift. The brakes get almost no use in EVs.

However, right now I am in the mood for taking a long ride on my thousand-pound Harley ICE bike. The one shown in my Avatar here, the Harley Road Glide Ultra. But the weather here in Reno is still lousy, a couple of snowflakes fell today here in front of my house which is on the very top of a hill at 5K' elevation.

But in the hills, I prefer EVs by far.

-Don- Reno, NV
 
Each new mfr seems to do a little better as demand grows, but so far they all suffer from similar problems, which is scaling a company such that they must be able to meet the initial hype demand because that's how it's going to be forever. My opinion is that it's better to keep demand going by initially being unable to meet initial demand, because that in itself creates demand, especially when there's literally no competition. If you don't do that, you need to be super aware of that and have very dynamic scaling abilities, such that you can survive what comes after the initial demand. Oh and your investors need to be cool with that, with funding the scale of a $500m company that's not actually a $500m company.
 
Nice to hear. Hope it works out.
 
Cool
 
Unofficially the deal has been signed. Energica will continue on. :thumbup :cool They are in the process of moving the property and manufacturing infrastructure to Singapore.

From the various snippets I have heard the new owners will move forward with the Experia platform and focus on filling fleet orders.

I just hope that means I get the center stand I bought, lol.
 
motoproponent said:
I just hope that means I get the center stand I bought, lol.
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If wanted for lubing the chain, use one of these thingies to lift the rear wheel off the ground while the bike is using the stock sidestand on level ground.

It will lift the rear wheel as it lifts more of the bike onto the stock sidestand.

On the Experia, put it as close to the rear tire rubber without it touching it, on the right side of the bike. Place it just behind the axle making sure it is not going to press on the rear ABS wire or anything like that.

A 19 MM box wrench with a reverse switch and flex head is very helpful, but not necessary. I use the one from this kit. It just gets a bit heavy without the wrench as the rear wheel is leaving the ground. With the 19MM wrench I use, I cannot even tell when it lifts off the ground, so I then use my eyes or try to spin the rear wheel to see when it is high enough so the rear tire doesn't touch the ground. Use the 19MM on top of this chain tool (black area), not on the 19 MM nut.

Less than three 360° turns at the rear wheel will cover more than the entire length of the chain as it is being lubed. So look at the valve or whatever and lube for the 3 rotations of the rear wheel.

This setup is small enough that it can be taken on a long trip, the 19mm box wrench bends down on the tool taking up almost no additional room. No need to ever remove the 19MM box wrench when once on the top of the chain tool ((which is reverse threaded). The switch will face DOWN on this weird box wrench for the 19 MM.

-Don- Auburn, CA
 
DonTom said:
If wanted for lubing the chain, use one of these thingies to lift the rear wheel off the ground while the bike is using the stock sidestand on level ground.

It will lift the rear wheel as it lifts more of the bike onto the stock sidestand.

On the Experia, put it as close to the rear tire rubber without it touching it, on the right side of the bike. Place it just behind the axle making sure it is not going to press on the rear ABS wire or anything like that.

A 19 MM box wrench with a reverse switch and flex head is very helpful, but not necessary. I use the one from this kit. It just gets a bit heavy without the wrench as the rear wheel is leaving the ground. With the 19MM wrench I use, I cannot even tell when it lifts off the ground, so I then use my eyes or try to spin the rear wheel to see when it is high enough so the rear tire doesn't touch the ground. Use the 19MM on top of this chain tool (black area), not on the 19 MM nut.

Less than three 360° turns at the rear wheel will cover more than the entire length of the chain as it is being lubed. So look at the valve or whatever and lube for the 3 rotations of the rear wheel.

This setup is small enough that it can be taken on a long trip, the 19mm box wrench bends down on the tool taking up almost no additional room. No need to ever remove the 19MM box wrench when once on the top of the chain tool ((which is reverse threaded). The switch will face DOWN on this weird box wrench for the 19 MM.

-Don- Auburn, CA
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I have a SnapJack in my tool kit for on-the-road chain maintenance. I use a track stand at home.

I like having the center stand because the bike takes up less space when straight up than when on the side stand. Going to a meetup or social event with a lot of bikes, I will often come out to find the bikes stacked up really close and that I will bump the bike next to me if I lift it off the kickstand. On a center stand I can just roll forward. The center stand also saves precious space in the garage. Being able to stack the bikes closer because they are not leaning. The center stand is more secure and it adds the ability to get the front wheel in the air, on the rare roadside occasion when that is needed.

For me, a center stand is about a lot more than chain maintenance.
 
DonTom said:
Should we be looking forward to seeing the new label?


. "Proudly Made in Singapore"

-Don- Auburn, CA
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Probably something like "Designed in Modena" I don't think they are going to give up the Italian identity anytime soon.
 
That sucks best of luck to Chris he took me on my first Energica demo ride and I raced him a couple of times at Laguna Seca.
 
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