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Get Well Soon Frong

Get well soon Fr0ng...I also enjoy reading your posts. I hope you recover real soon and get back out on the track.
 
Hey Sammy, I hope the worst is over and you’re on the way to recovery. I've had a good time hanging out and riding with you and John. That sucks we were having an awesome session. I only wish I would have been behind you instead of in front. Let me know when you are well enough and I will give you the real specifics of the crash. It seems a lot of people on here are quick to speak before they know the facts. Mike L. and I cleaned up the crash and investigated the seen. You definitely have the T-Hill off road record for a street bike. If there is anything I can do to help you out in the months to come please let me know. I wish you a speedy recovery and look forward to riding with you again SOON
 
I see some one here has stated that frong laid in the field unconscious for over an hour. That’s not quite right. He was in the Heli and on his way to Enlau in just under an hour. It took right around 20 minutes to establish that he was not in the paddock and to start a search. He was found in less than 10 after that conscious asking what had happened.
 
btw, christofu's response to a missing rider is exactly as I would expect from someone I'm trusting my wellbeing too on a track. :thumbup I'm not pointing fingers at anyone, but that is exactly why I prefer zoomzoom trackdays. 10 minutes missing and the track is shut down, with ambulance roling and searching. That makes sense.




Heal up sami. [/B][/QUOTE]
 
tireguy said:
I see some one here has stated that frong laid in the field unconscious for over an hour. That’s not quite right. He was in the Heli and on his way to Enlau in just under an hour. It took right around 20 minutes to establish that he was not in the paddock and to start a search. He was found in less than 10 after that conscious asking what had happened.
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thanks for the response bro, there's a lot of rumors about what happened out there, i tried to lay it out as best as i could in the other thread i started...but i'm confirming tireguy's post, he was not out there for over an hour, within 2 minutes of me reporting him missing, Mike and Jer had more than 10 people looking for him on and off the track. ~J
 
MeisI said:
Isn't there some legal obligation in terms of the Track Day organizer? Something about it just doesn't sound like it's as simple as nobody saw him, and it's tough noogies.

This really is one of those bone chilling injuries that turn crashing into a reality...
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you dick.
This is the kind of attitude that is killing our country.
If somebody can possibly sue somebody else, then do it.
Frong crashed, doing a dangerous activity, dont fault anyone but him.
 
Bad dad wrote btw, christofu's response to a missing rider is exactly as I would expect from someone I'm trusting my wellbeing too on a track. I'm not pointing fingers at anyone, but that is exactly why I prefer zoomzoom trackdays. 10 minutes missing and the track is shut down, with ambulance roling and searching. That makes sense.
Do they really send the Ambulance out to look for lost riders after 10 minutes? That sounds kind of strange. I would hope that they would sit tight on standby untill they know for sure were the crash has occured. Is this the policy of zoom zoom? I think I will email zoom zoom and find out if this is the case. If you are just talking smack then I would suggest more riding and less thinking.
 
why does everyone want frong to come back soon? When he posts, everyone gives him shit. I say this is a welcome break of frong.

And nobody should fault PTT, the guy that crashes is at fault here.
 
tireguy said:
does the ambulance really go out and search for riders after they are missing for 10 minutes?
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i don't think so.
i've never seen it.

and i like christofu's plan of shutting down the track after 10 minutes of a rider reported MIA until they are found. :thumbup
 
The way I read what chrsitofu wrote, a rider was missing, so they sent out everyone, including the ambulances, to look for him. Sounds like a good plan to me.
 
sleezyrwheezie said:
you dick.
This is the kind of attitude that is killing our country.
If somebody can possibly sue somebody else, then do it.
Frong crashed, doing a dangerous activity, dont fault anyone but him.
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Please take it to the other thread. This is a get well message.

Thanks.
 
eeeeek said:
The way I read what chrsitofu wrote, a rider was missing, so they sent out everyone, including the ambulances, to look for him. Sounds like a good plan to me.
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Not quite... but close.

We had the medical team out of their airconditioned clinic and into the ambulance, on their way to stage at the track entrance. All available staff were getting into their vehicles and onto their dirt bikes to go search...

...and then the missing riding came ambling down the paddock with a big smile and wondered what all the fuss was about.

The key is knowing that someone is missing in a timely fashion! From what I've heard of Michael and Jer's reaction, they were similarly swift in taking action once they knew.

p.s. we had never previously experienced even the thought that someone could go missing. I think Sami's circumstances spun me for such a loop because I had, just days ago, entertained the possibility for the first time that we had lost someone.
 
Sorry to hear your mishap. Get well soon!!!


donoman said:
Definitely negligent but what about the waiver?
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In a perfect world "WAIVER" maybe valid. But in a real world that we have right now "WAIVER" in this case may not mean anything. It's all about "LAWYERS"...
 
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This just received from Tireguy, I don't really know what to think about it...

"where did you get your frong info?
I was just wondering were you got your info on frong. He was not unconscious when Cory Call found him during the search that was initiated 15 minutes after his session was over and he was determined missing. He was on the heli on his way to Enleau in less than an hour. I was with him for the twenty minutes it took for the chopper to reach us. He was never unconscious during that time ether. I wish you folks would get your facts straight before you start spewing a bunch of shit that’s not true. It's not good. Somebody who doesn’t know you could actually think you know what you’re talking about. I have written up an accident report and would be happy to give you the facts. I am writing you personally because you were the first one to post bogus info. It seems it would be good for you to retract or amend your statement. If you do not want to do that I will. We as riders are so lucky to have so many opportunities in this day and age to ride on real race tracks. The current number of quality track time providers is awesome. They have plenty to worry about with out a bunch of miss informed assholes talking shit that AINT TRUE. Let’s try to do our best to make all track days more safe and fun. Posting miss information will not help this but learning from our mistakes and trying to better them will. I'm not sure who you are but I would recognize you by face or bike. I'm the tire guy and the crash truck guy. "

Well I was there, and was wearing a watch. He went missing during the second to last B session and was found right before the next B session started. I said "almost" and hour. And what difference does it make any way as to how long he was out there. The fact is he layed there for a long time unnoticed before he was found. As far as being unconscious I'm pretty sure I heard it from Mike during the meeting. Sorry if I was wrong about that...

And what's that last sentence all about. Is it some sort of vague threat. To give you the benefit of the doubt I will assume not...

I hesitated in my original post to add any details because I did not want to give any misinformation. Then people thought it was a joke so I figured I would provide what I knew...
 
Sami is a very talented motorcycle rider. He rides fast, and he rides safe. I am very proud of him as he has improved his riding so quickly in such a short period of time. He is obviously a naturally talented rider. He is active in the motorcycle community, an avid track day enthusiast, and a loyal friend to many. Sami is also a friend of mine.

The moment I was informed that Sami had not returned to the pit, I immediately checked with the start tower to see if any turn workers had seen an accident. A message was sent out over the PA for Sami to report to Registration. PTT and Thunderhill staff even customers, promptly started checking the bathrooms, air conditioned rooms, offices and pits. PTT instructor Cory Call, myself and many others rode on and off the track looking closely for Sami and any signs of an accident. Thunderhill Operations Manager Shannon Ell aided in the search and sent Thunderhill staff out on the Kawasaki Mules for the search as well. Sami was found in good spirits and was treated by EMT’s and flown to Enloe.

Pacific Track Time has an excellent safety record. We work hard to provide a safe and fun environment for people to ride their motorcycles. Thunderhill provides professional trained corner workers who do an outstanding job. There were no “corners cut” to attempt to save a few dollars. On the contrary, PTT always hires an additional Thunderhill worker at every event.

I have been motorcycle road racing for 20 years. I take safety on and off the track very seriously. The AFM has asked me to be involved with many safety related issues including the repositioning of the turn 13 wall at Thunderhill. Over the years I have seen some horrible accidents. We learn from these accidents and try to improve the tracks for a safer place to ride.

We are forgetting to acknowledge the Hero in this unfortunate event. Sami’s riding buddy, and best friend John Noori. John took all the right steps in notifying the appropriate personnel that his friend was missing. He aided in the search and was right there by Sami’s side the moment he was found. John helped comfort his friend, take care of medical info, carefully load Sami’s bike and gear, made the very difficult phone to call to inform Sami’s parents, and met Sami at the hospital and did not leave his fallen friends side until Sami’s parents were there to take his place. John has continually kept me informed of Sami’s condition as well as many others. The world needs more courageous, whole hearted people like John!

When Sami is ready to ride, Pacific Track Time will gladly honor John Noori’s request to host a “Welcome Backwards” day at Thunderhill Park dedicated to Sami from John.

Heal up quick Sami, we miss you! :)

Michael Earnest
Pacific Track Time
www.pacifictracktime.com
 
Tireguy. save your pm's to me also about talking shit, and then talking shit while doing it..

I repeated what christofu said, as someone here already repeated.


You might want to check yourself about now. And stop pm'ing people here just to talk shit. If you are associated with T-Hill or PTT, then so be it. I have not said anything against them. I merely stated what zoomzoom said that made me comfortable. If it makes you uncomfortable, then fuckin deal with it.
 
Bad Dad said:
Tireguy. save your pm's to me also about talking shit, and then talking shit while doing it..

I repeated what christofu said, as someone here already repeated.


You might want to check yourself about now. And stop pm'ing people here just to talk shit. If you are associated with T-Hill or PTT, then so be it. I have not said anything against them. I merely stated what zoomzoom said that made me comfortable. If it makes you uncomfortable, then fuckin deal with it.
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it seems like a misunderstanding, tireguy seems only offended by the people flaming along with rumors and such. I'll personally contact him to try to clear up anything that bad dad and jboat had said initially. I know you two were only stating what you knew, as compared to inflating rumors for the sake of talk.

but don't be offended by him and vise versa, it's a misunderstanding of who's flaming and who's just reporting the news, i'll try to clear it up with him, and pm me if something's up. :)
 
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