going homeless - 1/02/17

[oobus]

Ah the Yuba. If you are a handy guy, look into a caretaker job at one of the many farms/ranches nearby. Bonus points to you if you speak any Spanish or can turn a wrench.

Go to Farm Bureau office, or Ag extension office.
Seriously.

 

[bojangle]

just sounds to me like the dude could use a helping hand. he came to us with his story. he's a valued member of this community. why wouldn't we rally around him?

I agree. Some people aren't good at asking for help. I'm one of them. If we could offer up some sort of help, he could always decline, but I don't know anyone who wouldn't appreciate another option, or the thought and support behind it.

 

[JesasaurusRex]

we already suggested renting a room? you wanna give him some money to buy a house?

 

[Blankpage]

A van would have a lot more elbow room than a car. With no rent to pay shouldn't be hard to sell the car and pick up a not too expensive van that could be made more accommodating.

Barfers with tools could help out with the customizing
Pic from the internet, a bit tacky but a lot more comfortable than a car

 

[teg916]

If you want to save money, rent yourself a room. Looks like Yuba has rooms available for $400/mo. It don't think homelessness is worth saving some cash, even if you have to deal with some shitty roommate.

Edit: That, or get a cheap crappy old RV. Keep it while you stay somewhere, and sell it when you are done. Better to live in an RV with heat, a toilet, and a shower, than in a car with nothing. You can park at a place like this for $400/mo.
http://yubasutter.craigslist.org/prk/5902447756.html

 

[UDRider]

You know OP if 2.4k, or even 6k is the difference between closing or walking away your financial citation might not be best for owning a house...

 

[jh2586]

Dude if you had a van or something larger, I'd say go for it. But I stayed in a rental for 2 nights on Oahu, HI waiting for my next military hop flight and it was a small car (Hyundai Elantra). Most uncomfortable sleep I have ever had. I'd say try it out but don't lose precious sleep. Rooms aren't too expensive.

 

[Linty]

I lived out of my car for 6 months from August to Feb - wasn't fun, but I chose to lay in the bed I made. You already sound smarter than I was, saving lots of money and pocketing it away. The few things I can suggest is, get a very very very warm blanket that matches your seat colors. Sounds stupid, but helps blend in where you park, and if you have your windows all the way up, it'll fog the shit out of your car, giving you away. That helped me in a few high 20s nights, but you'll fall asleep shivering a few nights. Also, park in places like walmart or 24hr box stores, you'll be less likely to be spotted and stopped. Plus, they have bathrooms, and some allow overnight parking. The few times I was asked by police about it, they didn't really do anything after I told them I was homeless. If they see/hear your story about how you're trying to get back on your feet, I'd guess most will turn a blind eye. Try to wake up early with the sunrise.

Also, get a membership to 24hr fitness or something. It's a cheap way to spend the time - I found myself working out almost everyday. They have showers and some have a pool, and a sauna. Good place to be when you want to get out of the car.

Toughest thing was food, with no fridge it's easy to spend akt of money on meals. Not good meals either, fast food shit that's bad for you. Unfortunately it's cheap, so pick your poison. Prepare to go to the grocery store daily if you want to eat relatively decent (nutrition wise). You can always splurge for a motel a couple nights a month, too.

Whatever happens, save your money and remember it's temporary. I remember how happy I was the night I laid down in a room knowing I had a place to come home to at night. Good luck whatever happens

 

[72SBC]

Drive up to bullards bar and ask the locals if you can crash on one of the 100 house boats chilling in the water.

 

[Melissa]

Offered the spare bedroom in my home with shower, kitchen and 3 dogs who love company.
Mike-please consider this. I dislike the thought of you choosing to be out there.

 

[JakesKTM]

Offered the spare bedroom in my home with shower, kitchen and 3 dogs who love company.
Mike-please consider this. I dislike the thought of you choosing to be out there.

I PM'd you Melissa. Can I come visit soon?

 

[JakesKTM]

I want to thank those offerors of help. You truly make the BARF the real deal. What I am doing is strategic, though necessary from my point of view, for several reasons.

I have no savings. I have an old shitty car that is near the end of its life. If that car were to crap out, I would immediately be saddled with debt in obtaining a newer car.

I am tired of renting. I don’t feel secure and I don’t like handing a third (or more) of my salary to someone who benefits where I could be the sole beneficiary. I’ve always been independent like that.

For the first time in my life I am debt free, completely. I would like to keep it that way.
If anyone knows my story - I have spent nearly a decade in the courts, fighting my ex wife for my inalienable right to parent my children, and the banks for owning up to their share of the risks they took in lending money and playing the derivative markets that caused the Great Recession which took my job, my home, my children, and everything that was important in my life from me. I do not look at the courts, justice, or the social economy the same anymore.

Over half a million people sleep on the streets every night in this country, half a million more are unaccounted for choosing not to seek assistance, and a million more are on the verge - half a paycheck away from the same circumstance. Yet our elected officials continue to make anti-camping ordinances and laws aimed at citizen status to keep our communities protected, insulated, from the ugliness of reality and the need for humanity and compassion now more than ever.

I need to save money. I need to re-focus my life. I want to set an example for those who believe this is crazy as fuck. I actually think it is crazy to continue to think that this way of life we have collectively bought, sold, and paid for is actually the best way to live. Money has fucked our lives completely, from child support to debt to property ownership. We have lost touch with our transitional purpose of spreading love and joy in the minimal time god (or the universe) has granted us.

I am motivated.

 

[Yakoo752]

just sounds to me like the dude could use a helping hand. he came to us with his story. he's a valued member of this community. why wouldn't we rally around him?

Because he is not down and out. He can afford to rent a room and is choosing not too. He is choosing to go homeless.

 

[JakesKTM]

Because he is not down and out. He can afford to rent a room and is choosing not too. He is choosing to go homeless.

Down and out is a relative term but generally yes, this is strategic. Read my post above.

Moving my belongings to Hayward Friday morning. Need to get the car converted to sleeping status quickly.

 

[Daredevil]

hindsight is 20/20

"man, i wish i wrote this thread a week ago, i might have been able to buy this home if we had gotten this shed taken down, thanks for all the offers for help"

fast forward 5 months

"lost my job, can't afford child support, can't see my daughter, im truly homless. I wish i had taken people up on their offers"


*shakes my head*


learn to accept some help. that's what friends/family is for. you said you've always been independent, wellll....... look at the situation you're in. fucked by those in power, lost your home, don't have custody of your daughter, got denied to buy a home (which the outcome might have been different if you had posted/asked for help a week earlier), etc. Maybe its time you start asking, and accepting help. You'd be surprised how far things go.

the reason im posting this is because i used to be an independent asshole who thought i could get thru life doing it all on my own. well i've learned life is hell of a lot easier if you surround yourself with people that care for you and want to help you. you seem like a great guy who'd give the shirt off his back for someone, well maybe its time you accept someone elses shirt.

i wish you the best of luck.

 

[jh2586]

hindsight is 20/20

"man, i wish i wrote this thread a week ago, i might have been able to buy this home if we had gotten this shed taken down, thanks for all the offers for help"

fast forward 5 months

"lost my job, can't afford child support, can't see my daughter, im truly homless. I wish i had taken people up on their offers"


*shakes my head*


learn to accept some help. that's what friends/family is for. you said you've always been independent, wellll....... look at the situation you're in. fucked by those in power, lost your home, don't have custody of your daughter, got denied to buy a home (which the outcome might have been different if you had posted/asked for help a week earlier), etc. Maybe its time you start asking, and accepting help. You'd be surprised how far things go.

the reason im posting this is because i used to be an independent asshole who thought i could get thru life doing it all on my own. well i've learned life is hell of a lot easier if you surround yourself with people that care for you and want to help you. you seem like a great guy who'd give the shirt off his back for someone, well maybe its time you accept someone elses shirt.

i wish you the best of luck.

Sometimes people have a difficult time with asking for help. It doesn't make you an asshole.

 

[Yakoo752]

Down and out is a relative term but generally yes, this is strategic. Read my post above.

Moving my belongings to Hayward Friday morning. Need to get the car converted to sleeping status quickly.

for sure and I don't mean to sound harsh.

There was a time in my life where the Jack in the Box lunch special was all I could afford... and it had to last me 2 days. I know what poor feels like. I could have reached out to numerous people for help but chose not to.

Do as you need to do but it sounds like you're cutting off your nose to spite your face.

why not just move in with pops? Even if temporary on the couch? http://bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=507514

 

[byke]

My mom had a bloated stomach and wanted to go to the doctor, but she didn't think it was a big deal and was on a tight budget with a shitty healthcare plan, so she decided to ride it out. My wife told me about her not wanting to spend the money and thought we should offer to pay for it, but my opinion was that it was her choice and if she wanted some help, she'd ask for it. Maybe a month goes by and the bloating pain gets bad enough that she goes to the emergency room. Turns out to be mesothelioma and she's gone three weeks later.

I'll always feel guilt about not offering to help because that extra month might have made the difference of her being strong enough to try surgery and chemo. Meso is a death sentence, but what we wouldn't have given for a fighting chance, or another year. I think when it comes to offering help, you have to ask what is more important and that deductible money was important to my mom, but it wasn't to me. So, we see Jake here making a conscious choice about living a higher risk lifestyle that many of us wouldn't choose, but it doesn't need to guide our choice of offering help. Anyway, that's the painful lesson I've learned about offering help which conflicts with a person's decisions.

 

[JakesKTM]

Why I don’t ask for help.

First of all I never alluded to, or asked for, or denied any help from those who offered if in fact, I could use the help.

I live in Marysville, Yuba City where my job is. My dad lives in Hayward. That is an impractical living situation.

I am trying to transfer to Oakland. It may take several or more months.

My objective in the meantime is to save money and stay debt free. IF you want to donate money to a gofund me account that would be fabulous, except I would not take money from people where I have the ability to acquire the money on my own because I have a job.

I am not being obstinate, rather persistent. There is a difference.

I don’t seek validation, or affirmation here. I thought perhaps y’all might find this interesting in real time. I can certainly pull this thread if some of you take offense to it.

You might think I’m an idiot or hard headed or just plain crazy. I am none of these.
Homelessness is less without as it is abundance in many other ways. What becomes absolutely necessary has been well documented, but long forgotten. I am on that path at the moment. If you don’t understand it, then either dropout or tune in. Your choice.

The outcome will be documented, again in some form or fashion.

 

[augustiron]

If anyone knows how to fix a code P1151 on a 1998 Ford E350 so I can smog and register it, I have a relatively spacious castle for OP to live in pro bono for a while.
I know it could be O2 sensor, vacuum leak or 20 other things creating a lean condition.

This tall top, extended, empty inside ex-AFM bike hauler is sitting in my driveway in Truckee waiting for spring for me to care about it again. It could be a huge home on wheels...if OP was interested of course.

http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=491353&highlight=e350