i thought i was going to die tonight

[VFRBenny]

i was driving down lincoln tonight about 40 mph,maybe we wee bit more i know i was speeding,next thing this fucking chick pulls out in her bmw,fucker seen me coming,and she still pulls out this asian chick,sorry for any asians in here,but she was asian,i panic and put my foot on the back brake,wheel locks up,back end starts going from side to side,i take my foot off the brake,try to get into the other line,whats the bitch do,she drives into the same lane im trying to get into,i was so close to hitting the car,i though i was going to shit my pants,then whats she do, slams on her brakes,i almost run right into the back of her,i get control of the bike again,i pull up beside her and start to shout at her,calling her all the names of the day,she speeds off,
i hear people talk about the back end locking up on them,shit this was my first time,

things i show of done,dont be speeding,and never slam on the back break like that,fuck im lucky i dont have any medical,scared the shit right out of me

Ya the back brake is about as use full as tits on a boar hog.

I would rather have an asian cut me off then some old man! At least with an hot bodied asian, I wont stay mad for long!

 

[Rel]

I dont care what people think of me on here,i speak my mine,

most of the people i've met off here are cool,

i have thick skin,i can take it, as much as i can give it,

im not going to sit in the corner like a little boy,because some mod,who must have a bigger dick than mine,is threating to kick me off the site on pm's

The Jim (the Mod) just asked you to chill out, now you're making statements like, "Must have a bigger dick than mine....."

I asked you to stop, and you didn't. Now it's under mod review.


For everyone else, get the thread back on topic, or it's going to get locked.

 

[wicked_900rr]

maybe you should get a bike that has abs on it

 

[wicked_900rr]

I was pissed about your comments regarding Asian drivers and I'm not all that when it comes to riding but I do have over 100K miles logged and would be happy to give any helpful advise. I tried to bury the hatchet but oh well (ignor)

lol im asain.. and my mother drives like shit.... its trueeee so y get mad. but if someone needs a few tips im down to give them too.. i have over 150k miles logged as u call it

 

[budgie45]

this is a funny thread,ok folks,i cant say anything,

since im calling people names, but its ok for mods to talk shit,just not us normal people,

im going to say nothing else
i learned my lesson,

 

[DucatiHoney]

You must live in the suburbs. Here in the heart of the City it's a daily challenge to even walk the sidewalks without having careless drivers nearly run you over. It's not the same as putting your tie in the blender, unless you are advocating staying under my covers and not even leave the house. That would certainly be the safest thing to do.

As far as the "out to get you" business: well no, I don't think drivers are actually out to get me, but it has been a maxim in the motorcycling community to act "as if" you are invisible and that everyone is trying to kill you. This has kept me from getting hit by cars for the past 30 years, despite how hard they might "try". You should give it a try

And you didn't address the question I asked about why I should just not shrug it off. What would you suggest as an alternative? Panic? Rage?

I live in Oakland and ride into the city everyday and often once or twice on the weekends. I've been doing this for going on 7 years now rain or shine and actually find that I spend quite a lot of time on the bike riding through SF traffic compared to people that actually live in the city. But I don't think that my statement needs to be qualified with hours logged on the seat. The fact remains that I can ride through SF, the Bay Bridge and on our freeways in busy traffic, splitting lanes, for hours at a time and not have a single issue for many months at a time. In your 30 years you have almost-daily problems--In my 7, I don't. Take from that what you will.

I never "shrug off" an incident. Afterwards I try to sit down and think about what I might have done to prevent the same thing happening again. I can't think of a single episode that I didn't contribute to in some way--usually speed and inattention were the culprits. I'm a careful and calculating rider, but I wouldn't say that I'm a shrinking violet on the bike. Sometimes more speed or aggressiveness is the only way to get out of a bad situation. By shrugging it off I feel that I relinquish control of a situation, and perhaps my life, to someone else. I'm simply unwilling to do that. No one cares about me as much as me and I go to great lengths to keep "me" safe.

 

[hyperdookie]

The Real Story....

Budgie45 was running late cause' he couldn't get his drunk ass off the bar stool.As he is speeding down Lincoln, the cat in his backpack, which he was rushing home to cook for his Asian girlfriend, dug it's claws in his back. He momentarily lost his concentration, forgot to hit the front brake first, and nearly broad-sided VFRweasel. True story.

 

[budgie45]

Budgie45 was running late cause' he couldn't get his drunk ass off the bar stool.As he is speeding down Lincoln, the cat in his backpack, which he was rushing home to cook for his Asian girlfriend, dug it's claws in his back. He momentarily lost his concentration, forgot to hit the front brake first, and nearly broad-sided VFRweasel. True story.

there you go dont see me crying about it,

they should make me a mod

 

[SlideSF]

I live in Oakland and ride into the city everyday and often once or twice on the weekends. I've been doing this for going on 7 years now rain or shine and actually find that I spend quite a lot of time on the bike riding through SF traffic compared to people that actually live in the city. But I don't think that my statement needs to be qualified with hours logged on the seat. The fact remains that I can ride through SF, the Bay Bridge and on our freeways in busy traffic, splitting lanes, for hours at a time and not have a single issue for many months at a time. In your 30 years you have almost-daily problems--In my 7, I don't. Take from that what you will.

I never "shrug off" an incident. Afterwards I try to sit down and think about what I might have done to prevent the same thing happening again. I can't think of a single episode that I didn't contribute to in some way--usually speed and inattention were the culprits. I'm a careful and calculating rider, but I wouldn't say that I'm a shrinking violet on the bike. Sometimes more speed or aggressiveness is the only way to get out of a bad situation. By shrugging it off I feel that I relinquish control of a situation, and perhaps my life, to someone else. I'm simply unwilling to do that. No one cares about me as much as me and I go to great lengths to keep "me" safe.

Well thank you for a somewhat more considered response than that rather lame analogy you used earlier about the blender and the tie. I would have expected better from you

I guess if you have been driving in the City for seven years without a single "issue", and I encounter them daily, then we either exist in completely different universes, or we have a different definition of what constitutes an "issue". I thought I was clear that I meant a careless or distracted driver who pulls a bonehead move that could potentially impact you. Not an accident, not a situation where I was doing something dangerous ore careless, but a straight-up idiot cager that eg. ran a red light, took a right turn on red without stopping, changed lanes without looking, etc. etc. I would say you know the kind of thing I'm talking about, but apparently you have never witnessed that sort of behavior. Perhaps you have mastered the "laws of Attraction", but personally I found The Secret rather tedious and had to put it down before I finished it. Obviously I am spiritually lacking.

Earthbound as I am, I nevertheless find I can avoid accidents by taking a few precautions. I observe and take stock of my environment constantly with 360-degree awareness. I scan far ahead as well as my immediate surroundings. I predict other drivers actions before they happen, taking into especial consideration, and making allowances for any possible bonehead maneuver that might happen in my vicinity. I avoid obstacles in my path, moving or stationary, and I proceed onwards to my destination. So far it has always gotten me there unharmed. I expect it will continue to do so for many years to come, but predicting far into the future is also something I have not learned yet.

Perhaps there is another disparity between our definitions of "shrug off". By that I mean not getting emotionally attached to an event in the past. I didn't say I didn't evaluate a situation for possible lessons to be learned. I merely meant I do not seethe with anger, try to "get even", panic or lose my confidence in my ability to ride. How this can be equated with relinquishing control over my life is something I obviously need to learn more about. Perhaps it will be covered in the sequel to "The Secret".

 

[tzrider]

I guess if you have been driving in the City for seven years without a single "issue", and I encounter them daily, then we either exist in completely different universes, or we have a different definition of what constitutes an "issue". I thought I was clear that I meant a careless or distracted driver who pulls a bonehead move that could potentially impact you.

While you seem to be sarcastic above, you've hit upon a truth: Two riders in the exact same circumstances can have very different experiences with traffic. Some riders have three "near death" experiences a week, where another rider in the same geographic area may not remember the last time he had a close call.

Some of it is accounted for in their personal practices; lane positioning, situational awareness and even ability to predict what another driver wants to do. The other side of it is that they may each be subjected to the same exact incidents but perceive it differently as you say above. Being cut off will be an emergency for one rider and an annoyance for the other.

 

[ThumperX]

While you seem to be sarcastic above, you've hit upon a truth: Two riders in the exact same circumstances can have very different experiences with traffic. Some riders have three "near death" experiences a week, where another rider in the same geographic area may not remember the last time he had a close call.

Some of it is accounted for in their personal practices; lane positioning, situational awareness and even ability to predict what another driver wants to do. The other side of it is that they may each be subjected to the same exact incidents but perceive it differently as you say above. Being cut off will be an emergency for one rider and an annoyance for the other.

I never seem to have "issues" when commuting, yet if forced to recount, sure someone merged into my lane without seeing me, someone cut me off, someone turned left .... perception is a beautiful thing
runs to clean rose colored glasses.

 

[MysterYvil]

maybe you should get a bike that has abs on it

Six-pack FTW?

 

[budgie45]

 

[codger]

I would have to say you either need to get some serious prictice at braking and get past the panic or hang up your helmet. what happened is unerving bit as previously mentioned it happens all the time its part of riding. you missed out on the majority of your braking power by using the rear brake only. A brain fart like that will kill you! you have to practice hard front brake use until its all muscle memory and doesnt require any thinking.

 

[Gnarly Cranium]

you missed out on the majority of your braking power by using the rear brake only.

You missed out on a lot of this thread, by not reading the posts where he states clearly that he stopped with the front brake.

 

[budgie45]

I would have to say you either need to get some serious prictice at braking and get past the panic or hang up your helmet. what happened is unerving bit as previously mentioned it happens all the time its part of riding. you missed out on the majority of your braking power by using the rear brake only. A brain fart like that will kill you! you have to practice hard front brake use until its all muscle memory and doesnt require any thinking.

yeah dude why dont you read the whole thread,

before you chip in

 

[Human Ills]

o good lord.

 

[budgie45]

its time to close this thread, its getting messy

Thanks for all the people that helped out,i learned a lot, dont come on this forum if you have a problem LOL

 

[Rel]

Closed per OP's request.