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Is chivalry really dead?
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msethhunter
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Who cares? How do they do it today is what really matters. Asking me to appropriate for the misgivings of others is, IMO, wrong and morally bankrupt
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And revenge is closing and locking it, looking out the window at them and flipping them both the bird. It's also very liberating
aminalmutha
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I spelled out the generic so-called gender identity of they/them as opposed to he/him or she/her. Poking fun at the fact that people get so worked up about such little things. I don't think most people are out to offend, yet so many are quick to be offended.
Chivalry is dead? Good. Live by the Golden Rule: don't be a dick. And the corollary: don't get so butthurt so quicklike.
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HappyHighwayman
It's all in the reflexes
LOL
All my point was there were many times in history people acted in a certain role, e.g. knight, where they felt like they lived with a code of honor, defended women and Jesus and the Church, which involved mass murder, looting, burning and raping heathens and Jews. They even got a little note from the Pope saying they were going to heaven!
Then there were southern gentlemen who would gladly help an old lady across the street while burning a cross into someone's lawn. They probably went to Church, gave to charity, paid their taxes and considered themselves Chivalrous.
And today, well, you have men willing to hold the door for a woman and be super nice to them right up until the woman rejects their advances and they call them a bitch. But they're all chivalrous, right?
It's meaningless.
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Then you don't get what it means today, and I probably can't help you, because that's not it. Honor is being a good person, even when people aren't looking, same as chivalrous. It means doing it not because you expect something in return, and your comments speak more about your character than what the word has come to mean today.
HappyHighwayman
It's all in the reflexes
It means nothing today. It's an outdated word for something none of us have any heritage with.
Once again if it just means common courtesy, then as "chivalry" it means nothing.
Once again if it just means common courtesy, then as "chivalry" it means nothing.
Karbon
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U triggered?!
Lol I'm not. I'm actually talking to the dude's here.
And yes I get you're trying to make a joke.
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afm199
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Chivalry was pretty much an invention of the ruling oligarchy in the late dark ages, when life, government, and hope were pretty brutal and pretty nasty.
Feudalism was a nasty ruling means, and its wars were fought for pretty nasty reasons. Most soldiers in most wars then depended on pillage, rape, theft, chicanery and terror as a way of life. If you went to war, you got to kill people and steal their shit. There wasn't any bright side to it, no Camelot, no light, no wonderful people. It sucked. Chivalry was an invention intended to place the peers, the Knights, the aristocracy in a special place, by inventing special behavior that they were supposed to engage in. In real life in medieval times, it didn't exist. There was no real Camelot, the tales were around a cast of English royalty ( understand that royalty then meant "Kings" with 100 followers and Knights with four), that didn't exist in real life. Arthur, Uther/Luther, Gwenivier ( many spellings) and all of other myths were just that.
In reality, English and Continental fuedalism consisted of hundreds of years and many generations of war where "royal" families fought other royal families to obtain and advantage, power, prestige, and wealth. The slaughters were epic, the deeds of darkness incredible ( imagine being drawn and quartered after you were flayed alive and your intestines were removed and you were hung from them), and the lives short.
Chivalry never existed. It was part of a myth that the ruling class invented to hold onto power.
Feudalism was a nasty ruling means, and its wars were fought for pretty nasty reasons. Most soldiers in most wars then depended on pillage, rape, theft, chicanery and terror as a way of life. If you went to war, you got to kill people and steal their shit. There wasn't any bright side to it, no Camelot, no light, no wonderful people. It sucked. Chivalry was an invention intended to place the peers, the Knights, the aristocracy in a special place, by inventing special behavior that they were supposed to engage in. In real life in medieval times, it didn't exist. There was no real Camelot, the tales were around a cast of English royalty ( understand that royalty then meant "Kings" with 100 followers and Knights with four), that didn't exist in real life. Arthur, Uther/Luther, Gwenivier ( many spellings) and all of other myths were just that.
In reality, English and Continental fuedalism consisted of hundreds of years and many generations of war where "royal" families fought other royal families to obtain and advantage, power, prestige, and wealth. The slaughters were epic, the deeds of darkness incredible ( imagine being drawn and quartered after you were flayed alive and your intestines were removed and you were hung from them), and the lives short.
Chivalry never existed. It was part of a myth that the ruling class invented to hold onto power.
HappyHighwayman
It's all in the reflexes
Word
Even the meat of the King Arthur story is Lancelot's affair with Guinevere. How chivalrous!
Even the meat of the King Arthur story is Lancelot's affair with Guinevere. How chivalrous!
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And I thought the meat was Arthur having sex with his sister.
HappyHighwayman
It's all in the reflexes
That too.
afm199
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Don't be knocking incest. Obviously some people like it!
I spelled out the generic so-called gender identity of they/them as opposed to he/him or she/her. Poking fun at the fact that people get so worked up about such little things. I don't think most people are out to offend, yet so many are quick to be offended.
Chivalry is dead? Good. Live by the Golden Rule: don't be a dick. And the corollary: don't get so butthurt so quicklike.
People get worked up over a multiplicity of debris. You gotta let it go mang.
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That was you??!!I personally identify as an Attack Helicopter.
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I’m actually impressed it isn’t in Floriduh.
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