LEO questions....answered!

[Critter]

Why do officers deny "Racial Profiling!!!

 

[silversvs]

I've got a question, since I got reminded of it in the other thread. Why does every cop think that it helps the driver's mood in the slightest bit after they get that ticket and the small lecture about being safe...that they have to say, "Have a nice day." The chances of that ended the instant we got handed the magic yellow slip of paper.

If I give a warning (which is about 85% of the time) I also give a little lecture on why I stopped 'em and how they can avoid being stopped in the future. Then at the end they get the typical have a nice day or something similar.

If I issue a ticket, I typically spend a few minutes explaining why I gave the ticket and what the process is for traffic school, fighting it in court, or simply paying the fine. By taking a few minutes to explain these things, most (by no means all) drivers actually end up thanking me for the ticket. I typically end the conversation by asking them to drive carefully.

If its a motorcycle rider that I have stopped I usually end up chatting about bikes and forget why I pulled them over.

 

[silversvs]

Why do officers deny "Racial Profiling!!!

Because all the cops I know don't do it. We do "criminal profiling" which means that based on our observations and experience we can articulate that the person we are looking at has been invovled in a crime, is involved in a crime, or is about to be involved in a crime. If we can clearly articulate that based on the facts at hand we can contact that individual and detain him/her long enough to prove or disprove their criminal involvement. There's no correlation between race and criminal involvement that I am aware of, so race does not play a part in criminal profiling.

 

[silversvs]

if pulled over, and there is no reasonable suspicion that the subject has a weapon, is it legal to search the vehicle of the suspect? is it legal to search the trunk? or a locked glove box?

No. But there are many ways to make it legal. Asking for consent is the easiest way.

 

[silversvs]

Your turn Brash

 

[tgranted]

I hope you're around if I get pulled over

 

[Owensdad]

Great thread fellas, thanks for posting.

Be safe out there.

 

[scootergmc]

So I'm cruising 10-8 and observe a 23103 motorcyclist. I go 11-95, and run a 27 and 29 on the rider after everything is code 4. Find out rider is 12500 and has a 10-29f out of Alameda for 10851 VC and another 10-29m for FTA. Low and behold, after running a 10-28 on the bike, it comes back as stolen. I have dispatch confirm the 10-29s, request an 11-85 and go 10-15. Another bike recovered. What a fantasy world I live in....

 

[silversvs]

So I'm cruising 10-8 and observe a 23103 motorcyclist. I go 11-95, and run a 27 and 29 on the rider after everything is code 4. Find out rider is 12500 and has a 10-29f out of Alameda for 10851 VC and another 10-29m for FTA. Low and behold, after running a 10-28 on the bike, it comes back as stolen. I have dispatch confirm the 10-29s, request an 11-85 and go 10-15. Another bike recovered. What a fantasy world I live in....

Then you're en route SRJ with your 10-15. You get him express booked based on his bad attitude. You spend the next three hours writing your paper. Get back out on the beat and see the same turd walking down the street. SRJ cited him and the DAs office is only gonna give him double secret probation with an S7. That's the real world.

 

[adamsix]

Then you're en route SRJ with your 10-15. You get him express booked based on his bad attitude. You spend the next three hours writing your paper. Get back out on the beat and see the same turd walking down the street. SRJ cited him and the DAs office is only gonna give him double secret probation with an S7. That's the real world.

I'm hungry..What's for code-7

 

[scootergmc]

Then you're en route SRJ with your 10-15. You get him express booked based on his bad attitude. You spend the next three hours writing your paper. Get back out on the beat and see the same turd walking down the street. SRJ cited him and the DAs office is only gonna give him double secret probation with an S7. That's the real world.

No, the real world is:

While 10-15 you get notified via MDT SRJ is overpop and will be unable to book. You're ordered to cite w/ date to appear on which date you know the dude will FTA. After doing paper, it's returned 4 weeks later by your Sgt because the DA wants a supplemental reclarifying the reasons said dirtbag was cited and not booked at SRJ. Later, while on a 98 with your buddies at the local KK, you notice the dirtbag putting special sauce into your latte, wherefore you have to scratch another establishment off your "safe places to eat" list.

 

[deaconblues]

yanno, as long as this stays in this whole Q&A tone, I'd think a sticky is in order.

 

[fawndog]

No, the real world is:

While 10-15 you get notified via MDT SRJ is overpop and will be unable to book. You're ordered to cite w/ date to appear on which date you know the dude will FTA. After doing paper, it's returned 4 weeks later by your Sgt because the DA wants a supplemental reclarifying the reasons said dirtbag was cited and not booked at SRJ. Later, while on a 98 with your buddies at the local KK, you notice the dirtbag putting special sauce into your latte, wherefore you have to scratch another establishment off your "safe places to eat" list.

The real reason you guys lay low

 

[Tom2]

So I'm cruising 10-8 and observe a 23103 motorcyclist. I go 11-95, and run a 27 and 29 on the rider after everything is code 4. Find out rider is 12500 and has a 10-29f out of Alameda for 10851 VC and another 10-29m for FTA. Low and behold, after running a 10-28 on the bike, it comes back as stolen. I have dispatch confirm the 10-29s, request an 11-85 and go 10-15. Another bike recovered. What a fantasy world I live in....

on your way to earning a 10851 pin!

 

[Razel]

I'm hungry..What's for code-7

Nuttin'. Everyone knows that dispatch understands Code-7 to mean "I'm bored and need something to do". What everyone else knows Code-7 to be is irrelevant.

 

[tamothy]

my scooter was stolen, does law enforcements make any extra efforts to help recover my scooter? As in, would they check license plate numbers of scooters that match the description of what was stolen?
Or do they simply go on with regulating traffic and just examining suspcious vehicles?
this question can apply to bikes and cars too

 

[squid vicious]

my traffic school teacher told me making a U turn in the middle of the street against a double yellow is legal because there is nothing against it in the code (providing it is safe to do so)

I know for a fact that is illegal. I got nailed for it on Santa Rita rd. You may only cross a double yellow to enter a driveway. Not to pass, not to make a u-turn, etc. ONLY to enter a driveway.

 

[Diablo]

re:I'm hungry..What's for code-7
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Code 7 is the encrypted code for Code 5ing Krispy Creme establishments.



re:being careful where you eat.....

I stick to the place where you can see the cook, middle person and cashier in plain sight....usually the good hole in the wall Mexican places.

 

[weasel]

yanno, as long as this stays in this whole Q&A tone, I'd think a sticky is in order.

Ewwww, this thread is sticky :eek

thanks for posting guys

go ped law anyone? I wanna ride my pocket bike to work

 

[faz]

I know for a fact that is illegal. I got nailed for it on Santa Rita rd. You may only cross a double yellow to enter a driveway. Not to pass, not to make a u-turn, etc. ONLY to enter a driveway.

sorry, but you are not correct.

(Copy from DMV website: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/hdbk/pgs25thru29.htm#legalu )


Legal U-Turns

When you make a U-turn, you turn around and go back the way you came. Signal and then make the U-turn only from the far left lane on your side of the road. If the street has a center left turn lane, begin your U-turn in that lane.

You may make a U-turn:

Across a double yellow line, if the turn can be made safely and legally.


In a residential district:
if no vehicle approaching you is closer than 200 feet.
whenever a traffic sign or signal protects you from vehicles which are close.


At an intersection on a green light or green arrow unless a “No U-turn” sign is posted.


On a divided highway. Don’t drive over or across any dividing section, curb, or strip. This includes:
two sets of double lines marking a center divider unless an opening is provided for turns.
the unpaved median in the middle of the freeway.


Illegal U-Turns

Never make a U-turn on a highway by crossing a curb, or strip of land, or two sets of double lines.

You may not make a U-turn:

Where you cannot clearly see 200 feet in each direction because of a curve, hill, rain, fog, or other reason.
Where a “NO U-TURN” sign is posted.
When vehicles may hit you.
On a one-way street.
In front of a fire station. Never use a fire station driveway to turn around.
In a business district*, except at intersections or through openings in a concrete divider.