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LEO questions....answered!

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daventura said:
So...I'm confused. Are there five or six police officers willing to disclose their identities?
These are pretty clear:

Iszlandsnow
silversvs
brash47
Diablo
scootergmc


:teeth
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Not me....... I'm super secret.
 
Sorry, was away for a couple of days....I havent read through the posts yet, but will get on the ones that it looks like some of my fellow compadres havent answered!

brash
 
OK...
First, Code-7 was KFC tonight....
Second....well, the whole comp meal thing...try that where I work and you get a swift kick out the door. 10 years ago, things were much different in Law Enforcement...actually 12 year.....before Rodney King. Accepting gratuities...not protection money btw, is prohibited in my dept. Sometime, although, business owners take is as an insult that you pay when they offer you something free...what is common is for the officer to say thank you and tip the person minimally the entire amount of the bill.

Third...Santa Rita Road....I need to know where it was you were cited...if its right off the highway, its considered a business district, not residential.

Racial profiling....read my posts on the Alice's Restaurant Crackdown thread from this weekend....I posted about that.

What is considered a stop....the vehicle stops moving. Not slows down, stops moving completely....I have a joke for you in regards to this too :)

A cop is watching an intersection for stop-sign violations. He sees a car roll through the stop sign. The cop pulls the guy over...gets his info and starts to write him a ticket. The man in the car says...HEY, what the hell you stop me for copper!

The officer says, you failed to stop at the stop sign back there. The guy in the car says....Well, I slowed down, whats the difference?

The cop drags the guy out of the car and commences to whip the crap out of him with his baton. After a few moments, he looks at the guy and says....so, you want me to stop...or just slow down?.....

brash

PS, thanks for answering alot of the questions guys...svs, etc....I was unable to log on for a couple....
 
TheRobSJ said:
...Their own employees who barely get by have to pay, yet anyone with a badge gets treated like a fucking monarch there.
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HAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAHAHAHAH
AHHAHAHAHAHA:laughing

Treated like a Monarch at McDonalds?, maybe Burger King ;) :teeth
 
re:Not slows down, stops moving completely....I have a joke for you in regards to this too

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Haaaa Academy joke!!!
 
daventura said:
So...I'm confused. Are there five or six police officers willing to disclose their identities?
These are pretty clear:

Iszlandsnow
silversvs
brash47
Diablo
scootergmc

Tom2?

Could I get all your real names and the various agencies you work for as well?
I'm thinking that by mentioning barf and my asssociatation with "so and so", I could avoid a lot of trouble.
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Ahh.. the classic kiss ass way to get out of something.

Driver/suspect: "Hey uh..do you know Officer..uh..I forgot his name, you know that tall guy..dark hair..shoot what was his name.."

Im just a security guard at the mall.:cool
 
Brash47 said:
10 years ago, things were much different in Law Enforcement...actually 12 year.....before Rodney King.


yep... tell me 'bout it.
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need help please

where: san jose - milpitas border (in a cage)

i want to make a right turn at the stoplight (mccandless/montague) however the only way for me to make a right is to go into the carpool lane. CHP guy pulls me over and as i try to explain this, he doesnt want to hear it - 'license registration'. i want to fight this ticket in court since this 'solo in the carpool lane' violation is $300 dollars and wrong/unjust. please advise and thank you in advance for your help.

btw- i appreciate everyone in law enforcement.. you've helped me on many occassions - good and bad..
 
gsxrchick as long as you weren't in the exit lane for a certain distance before you turned right you should be in the clear.... look it up in the vechicle code... i'm too lazy :)
 
I *think* I know the intersection she's talking about. And I think there are 2 right turn lanes and the far right one is carpool only.

I was driving there once and had never been there before. There were 2 turn lanes and the left one was all backed up and nobody was in the right one. So I think to myself "If these fools want to sit in traffic, let them" so I go to the right lane. All of a sudden there is a dimond in the lane and I look up and there is a sign that says the far right lane if for carpool only. By this time it was too late. Nothing I could do. I think it's also a no right on red but can't remember. I just remember sitting there nervously saying "come on... come on.... change.... come on....."

Lucky for me I did not get caught, but I still don't concider it my fault.

Is that the intersection you're talking about?
 
if that's the case then you were in the wrong place at the wrong time, enjoy traffic school!

Although I never have seen a lane like that, maybe you could claim that......
 
I assume this is what you got cited for:
21655.8. (a) Except as required under subdivision (b), when
exclusive or preferential use lanes for high-occupancy vehicles are
established pursuant to Section 21655.5 and double parallel solid
lines are in place to the right thereof, no person driving a vehicle
may cross over these double lines to enter into or exit from the
exclusive or preferential use lanes, and entrance or exit may be made
only in areas designated for these purposes or where a single broken
line is in place to the right of the exclusive or preferential use
lanes.

For court I'd take pictures of the intersection, and stick to the following law:
22100. Except as provided in Section 22100.5 or 22101, the driver
of any vehicle intending to turn upon a highway shall do so as
follows:
(a) Right Turns. Both the approach for a right-hand turn and a
right-hand turn shall be made as close as practicable to the
right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except:
(1) Upon a highway having three marked lanes for traffic moving in
one direction which terminates at an intersecting highway
accommodating traffic in both directions, the driver of a vehicle in
the middle lane may turn right into any lane lawfully available to
traffic moving in that direction upon the roadway being entered.

And make sure there are no signs leading up to the intersection telling you not to turn from the carpool lane.

You can read the full laws in the vehicle code at the following link:
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov


I'm not a lawyer :teeth
 
All of these great responses for Gsxrchicks question. I just work for Pinkerton security anyways. :teeth
 
Re: Re: Attention all LEO Riders...

Iszlandsnow said:
Interested in what? :confused

I got an online coupon for Krispy Kreme if your interested.

Twisted TLR wrote:
Sorry about that folks.. I was attempting to attach a file to my last message.

Anyways... There's flyers that have been distributed to most bay area agencies regarding an upcoming ride which some riders and I are hosting. Any interested 830's and friends are welcome. PM me for more information or if you would like a flyer sent out to your department.


Thank you guys... May all you rest in peace.

San Francisco PD Isaac Espinoza
Merced PD Stephan Gray
CHP Officer Thomas Steiner
Reserve Solano County Deputy John Sandlin
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EastBayDave said:
what would be the penalty for say.....186mph ?
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I'm still wondering why no one will answer this question?

Is a ultra-high speed stop automatically a "reckless driving" ticket if over say....100mph? Is it automatic arrest & off to jail? Where (speed wise) is the break point between a ticket & arrest???!?

100mph? 120mph? 150mph? 180mph? What??????
 
23103. (a) Any person who drives any vehicle upon a highway in
willful or wanton disregard for the safety of persons or property is
guilty of reckless driving.
(b) Any person who drives any vehicle in any offstreet parking
facility, as defined in subdivision (c) of Section 12500, in willful
or wanton disregard for the safety of persons or property is guilty
of reckless driving.
(c) Persons convicted of the offense of reckless driving shall be
punished by imprisonment in a county jail for not less than five days nor more than 90 days or by a fine of not less than one hundred forty-five dollars ($145) nor more than one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both that fine and imprisonment, except as provided in Section 23104.


22348. (a) Notwithstanding subdivision (b) of Section 22351, no
person shall drive a vehicle upon a highway with a speed limit
established pursuant to Section 22349 or 22356 at a speed greater than that speed limit.
(b) Any person who drives a vehicle upon a highway at a speed
greater than 100 miles per hour is guilty of an infraction
punishable, as follows:
(1) Upon a first conviction of a violation of this subdivision, by
a fine of not to exceed five hundred dollars ($500). The court may
also suspend the privilege of the person to operate a motor vehicle for a period not to exceed 30 days pursuant to Section 13200.5.
(2) Upon a conviction under this subdivision of an offense which
occurred within three years of a prior offense resulting in a
conviction of an offense under this subdivision, by a fine of not to
exceed five hundred dollars ($500). The person's privilege to
operate a motor vehicle shall be suspended by the Department of Motor Vehicles pursuant to subdivision (a) of Section 13355.
(3) Upon a conviction under this subdivision of an offense which
occurred within five years of two or more prior offenses resulting in convictions of offenses under this subdivision, by a fine of not to
exceed five hundred dollars ($500). The person's privilege to operate
a motor vehicle shall be suspended by the Department of Motor
Vehicles pursuant to subdivision (b) of Section 13355.
 
Iszlandsnow said:
All of these great responses for Gsxrchicks question. I just work for Pinkerton security anyways. :teeth
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thanks for taking the time to respond ezekiel,cleoent,jackthe..... and yes the white lines were broken..either way i think i'll show up on the court day.. dont have nothing to lose except a few hours at work. thanks again - cheryl
 
Lots of riders out at the weekend, some on their own others in groups.

What kind of things (other than people riding like a complete knob) are you looking for?

What's going to get a rider pulled over while his buddies don't?

What is it that catches your attention and how do you decide who needs closer scrutiny?


Thanks :)
 
gsxrchick said:
dont have nothing to lose except a few hours at work. thanks again - cheryl
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Look into doing a Trial by Written Declaration. With your written account of what happened along with the photo documentation you should be found innocent WITHOUT having to take time off from work. You do it all through mail, the only drawback is that you have to pay the full fine up front, then if you are found innocent they refund your money. If you are found guilty in the written declaration you can THEN schedule a court appearance to plead your case again.

Do a search on here for it, ask the court mail you the papers for it, go to ticketassassin.com read up on it, with the broken white lines sounds like you're the perfect candidate for it!
 
Ezekiel said:
Look into doing a Trial by Written Declaration. With your written account of what happened along with the photo documentation you should be found innocent WITHOUT having to take time off from work. You do it all through mail, the only drawback is that you have to pay the full fine up front, then if you are found innocent they refund your money. If you are found guilty in the written declaration you can THEN schedule a court appearance to plead your case again.

Do a search on here for it, ask the court mail you the papers for it, go to ticketassassin.com read up on it, with the broken white lines sounds like you're the perfect candidate for it!
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sounds like its worth a shot.. thanks for the information - ch
 
Ezekiel said:
Look into doing a Trial by Written Declaration. With your written account of what happened along with the photo documentation you should be found innocent WITHOUT having to take time off from work. You do it all through mail, the only drawback is that you have to pay the full fine up front, then if you are found innocent they refund your money. If you are found guilty in the written declaration you can THEN schedule a court appearance to plead your case again.

Do a search on here for it, ask the court mail you the papers for it, go to ticketassassin.com read up on it, with the broken white lines sounds like you're the perfect candidate for it!
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Agreed. This way you get TWO chances to get out of it instead of just one. :thumbup

+1 Mojo
 
thump said:
What kind of things (other than people riding like a complete knob) are you looking for? What's going to get a rider pulled over while his buddies don't? What is it that catches your attention and how do you decide who needs closer scrutiny?
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Keep in mind that my answers reflect my experiences and my style. I can't speak for all officers.

Most officers (with the exception of those assigned to traffic details) are not specifically out cruising around looking to write tickets. Typically officers are looking to make arrests and take bad guys to jail. That is where the fun is in this job. With that in mind, you have to contact folks to find out if they fall into the "bad guy" category. One of the easiest ways to contact folks is through traffic stops. By seeing a violation and then stopping the driver for the violation, the officer gets a chance to assess the driver. Is the driver a wanted person, are they on parole or probation, are they under the influence, do they have illegal items in their vehicle or on their person, did they just rob a bank? A good officer will be using all their senses when they contact the driver to answer all these questions and more. If the driver falls into the bad guy category the officer takes appropriate action. If the driver is an average joe they get a warning and are sent on their way.

With that in mind, I'll try to answer your questions.

You asked what is it that catches my attention and makes for closer scrutiny. The answer is in the question itself. Anything that "gets my attention" is going to make me look at the driver. Loud exhaust, going faster than the rest of traffic, bright colored bikes, riding on one wheel, etc. all may get my attention. Once you have my attention, I do a quick "criminal profiling" (see previous post) on ya and decide if I want to make a stop or not.

So the best way to avoid being stopped is to just blend in with other traffic and not call attention to yourself.

If you happen to be passing by an officer assigned to traffic enforcement, then its a whole different ballgame, as you can be stopped for one of thousands of vehicle code sections. Keep your bike legal (lights, exhaust, license plates etc) and you have a better chance of avoiding their attention.
 
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